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ZAPHOD2319 4,814 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) Edited August 11, 2021 by ZAPHOD2319 Fernando, Hamilton and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Pepic95, Strike, Magic Lamps and 5 others 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,380 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, DH1988 said: It's going to be a loan with option to buy. Not one player at Lyon earns Bakayoko's wages. No way Lyon match them. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Not one player at Lyon earns Bakayoko's wages. No way Lyon match them. While that's probably true, why should it matter? If he still had a long term contract, the wage issue would be a bigger obstacle but nearing the end of his deal it gets less and less important. Bakayoko's deal is up next year and by now he should know he's not getting anywhere near his current wages (£110K/wk) for his next contract anyway. If he lowers his demands even a little bit (for example to somewhere around £60-80K range) his new salary should fit nicely with Lyon's other players wages. The difference in salary for the 2021/22 season could either be subsidized by Chelsea or covered by Lyon with a one-off signing on fee for the player. That's assuming Bakayoko knows his level and accepts the reality. If he has his head in the clouds and imagines he's getting the same wage or more at his next club, there could be problems. He already hit the lottery once by getting a contract too big for his skill level, he's not going to get it again. Edited August 11, 2021 by Jype Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,380 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jype said: While that's probably true, why should it matter? If he still had a long term contract, the wage issue would be a bigger obstacle but nearing the end of his deal it gets less and less important. Bakayoko's deal is up next year and by now he should know he's not getting anywhere near his current wages (£110K/wk) for his next contract anyway. If he lowers his demands even a little bit (for example to somewhere around £60-80K range) his new salary should fit nicely with Lyon's other players wages. The difference in salary for the 2021/22 season could either be subsidized by Chelsea or covered by Lyon with a one-off signing on fee for the player. That's assuming Bakayoko knows his level and accepts the reality. If he has his head in the clouds and imagines he's getting the same wage or more at his next club, there could be problems. He already hit the lottery once by getting a contract too big for his skill level, he's not going to get it again. Pretty sure Bakayoko realises he won't ever earn anywhere near £110K/wk again, so he will undoubtebly ride out this last year. Much like Drinkwater. Any permanent move this window is sheer imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Pretty sure Bakayoko realises he won't ever earn anywhere near £110K/wk again, so he will undoubtebly ride out this last year. Much like Drinkwater. Any permanent move this window is sheer imagination. I wouldn't compare Bakayoko and Drinkwater together at all. The former is obviously still trying his best to make a good career for himself and has played the last three seasons at very decent clubs (Milan, Monaco, Napoli). He's obviously not a top player but at the very least he's proved himself to be competent at clubs aiming for UCL spots in Italy/France so wherever he ends up at he'll probably have a good 5-8 years ahead of him at that level. Drinkwater on the other hand is a washed up alcoholic who's played less than 10 games of football in the last three years despite no major injuries, and has failed to make any sort of impact at any of his three loan clubs too (unless you count a training ground brawl with his team mate as having an impact). I wouldn't be surprised if he announced his retirement from football the day after his contract at Chelsea is over because he clearly doesn't have any ambition to play anymore. With Drinkwater there's absolutely zero hope of him moving before his contract expires but I can't see Bakayoko staying in the U23s for a year just to collect his pay check so he should be doing whatever he can to make a permanent transfer happen. Or what do you think will happen if he rides out the last year and plays no football? He'll have wasted a prime year of his career for the sake of £1-2M difference in wages and he'd probably get even less for his next contract then. Edited August 11, 2021 by Jype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,380 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jype said: With Drinkwater there's absolutely zero hope of him moving before his contract expires but I can't see Bakayoko staying in the U23s for a year just to collect his pay check so he should be doing whatever he can to make a permanent transfer happen. Or what do you think will happen if he rides out the last year and plays no football? He'll have wasted a prime year of his career for the sake of £1-2M difference in wages and he'd probably get even less for his next contract then. A. He is earning £5.3 million a year. He will be lucky to earn half as much elsewhere when his contract expires. The incentive to stay and ride out his last 'pay day' is higher than ever. B. Bakayoko won't stay here and play with the U23's. He'll be going out on loan again to which we will yet again cover the majority of his wages. Any permanent move this window is yet again, sheer imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: A. He is earning £5.3 million a year. He will be lucky to earn half as much elsewhere when his contract expires. The incentive to stay and ride out his last 'pay day' is higher than ever. B. Bakayoko won't stay here and play with the U23's. He'll be going out on loan again to which we will yet again cover the majority of his wages. Any permanent move this window is yet again, sheer imagination. C. Bakayoko accepts a smaller pay packet from a new club and Chelsea subsidizes the difference in wages for the next year, just like the club also would in your B scenario. I really don't see much of a difference in options B and C from either Bakayoko's or Chelsea's perspective. Either way Chelsea will have to cover for a portion of his wages for the coming season and in both cases he'll then go for a smaller pay packet at his next permanent club, whether the contract is signed this year or next year. In both scenarios Bakayoko still gets the same £5.3M for the coming season so riding out the contract would make very little difference for him, unless he thinks he's getting a significantly higher contract when signing as a free agent. I could see a club potentially handing him out a slightly bigger contract as a free agent, but then again if he has a bad season he might get even less than he would this year. Or if he gets a bad injury during the season (while playing out on loan) he might get nothing. So there is definitely an incentive for him to find a club to sign his next long term contract ASAP. I fully think the contract stuff will sort itself out but the only problem in my point of view is finding a club who are actually willing to pay any kind of transfer fee for him. Bakayoko's amortisation value for the coming season is £8M so the club should optimally be looking for at least that much, and there might not be any takers. Edited August 11, 2021 by Jype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,814 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Mbappe has requested to leave, get on it grannie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Mbappe has requested to leave, get on it grannie!! We wont go for him, though we would love it......the dude is RM bound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,814 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Wouldn't it be awesome if RM could not register him because of their current wages!! Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted August 11, 2021 Popular Post! Share Posted August 11, 2021 We need Tchoumani this week, Villareal ran circles in our mid after Kante went off. We need muscle in that mid, no way we can survive another season with the midfield we have. Muzchap, lucio, manpe and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syltherin 25 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Atomiswave said: We wont go for him, though we would love it......the dude is RM bound. we can try next season,,we have Tuchel as a key person to attract him. offcourse,,if one of Werner/Pulisic didn't make a good improvement this season we must sell one of them.... Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,163 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) Trevoh Chalobah has ‘forced his way into our thinking’, admits Thomas Tuchel Here to stay, here to play? https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2021/8/12/22620960/trevoh-chalobah-has-forced-his-way-into-our-thinking-admits-thomas-tuchel Edited August 12, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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