NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Mangiante confirmed that tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Mangiante confirmed that tweet. He knows even less than that fan page Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Mangiante confirmed that tweet. He knows nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Package absolutely makes sense tho. It was expected number. Potentially 150m pounds for Dortmund. Or 65m next summer. They'd be very stupid to decline. They already sold Sancho under the market price. So from potentially 250m pounds for both no chance they lose them for just 135-140m. Haaland is coming 🤩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,985 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 What’s probably working against us more so than the price or payment package we can offer is time at this point. We can offer them as much as we’d like but if it’s too late in the window for them to replace him they’ll just tell us to fuck off. And Dortmund seem like the kind of club who like to get a replacement lined up and negotiated before they sell a player. Something we’ve heard nothing about. The entirety of Europe will see them with a huge pile of money and crank the price up massively on any target they go after. Being unable to get rid of all these bums in our squad could cost us dearly because evidently we have to sell in order to buy. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avrobsws 29 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blues Forever said: Just to be good to be true. The part of Roman will use his own money to pay both Raiola and Alf-Inge looks BS.😂 I will call it a reliable as we all know how much Roman is passionate about Chelsea. 130 Mil + 20 Mil is almost trending everywhere. Dortmund has mentioned already Quote no officials bid from Chelsea yet which means they are expecting and will be accepted. Edited July 25, 2021 by avrobsws Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) From Dortmund POV not only I would sell but I would be really excited to have +200m pounds in this market. They lost all money last season for always sold out Westfalen. Malen is already there. So many great players available for low prices, with just one year left on contract many of them. Aouar, Vlahovic, Zouma, Kostic, Kabak, Abraham, Ginter, Sule, Zakaria, Corona, Kamara, Belotti, Lacazette, Romagnoli, Milenkovic, Cantwell, Di Maria, Boga, Bakayoko, Tolisso, Isco, Emerson... They could bring back Dembele. They could possibly buy 7 or 8 players and make really strong team. So many options, they just need to be creative with Haaland/Sancho money. Edited July 25, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styl1994 188 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: From Dortmund POV not only I would sell but I would be really excited to have +200m pounds in this market. They lost all money last season for always sold out Westfalen. Malen is already there. So many great players available for low prices, with just one year left on contract many of them. Aouar, Vlahovic, Zouma, Kostic, Kabak, Abraham, Ginter, Sule, Zakaria, Corona, Kamara, Belotti, Lacazette, Romagnoli, Milenkovic, Cantwell, Di Maria, Boga, Bakayoko, Tolisso, Isco, Emerson... They could bring back Dembele. They could possibly buy 7 or 8 players and make really strong team. So many options, they just need to be creative with Haaland/Sancho money. If I was them I would sign Kalajdžić, Kabak, Zakaria, Kamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Blues Forever said: This is hilarious. So the club are going to bid £130m, but have let this joker know that if £130m doesn't work, they'll go to £130m + £20m. What a strategy, very clandestine. Edited July 25, 2021 by King Kante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: 'with the chances Tuchel's team create game after game', is most controversial. How? We are 1st in the league under Tuchel in chances created? 16th in converting… DH1988 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: How? We are 1st in the league under Tuchel in chances created? 16th in converting… yikes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: How? We are 1st in the league under Tuchel in chances created? 16th in converting… We may created many chances when you count half chances, set pieces and everything possible which these stats do but I remember many, many games where we struggled to do anything. If team has 2 or 3 shots on target that cannot be a good game offensively. Wolves first game, what was our best chance? Spurs away, just 2 shots on target but not really good chances, won the game after the penalty. So that is one shot and the other is CHO attempt from 25m... SU away after also penalty needed and 3 shots on target, overall created very little. Barnsley game after in Fa Cup, just one shot on target, only goal. Southampton 1:1 again pen only goal, created nothing. Atletico away, was solid performance but again created shit from open play, Olie wonder goal saved us. United, Porto 2nd game, Brighton, LC in final... LC at home in round 37 again corner and pen needed for goals. Even Arsenal at home 0:1 Kai missed sitter but that came after Arse defense mistake. We struggled in all these games to create something from open play. I agree we created a lot in Madrid for example, Liverpool, Leeds and some other games where we should score much more and converting the chances was a problem. But this is 12 out of 29 games under TT where we struggled to create badly from open play. Not sure how good we were in WH, Porto first game, SU in Cup wins either. WBA and AV losses were weird games and different things decided. So yeah, we are not really creative team from midfield and wing backs under Tuchel. Far from it. Edited July 25, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Statistics disagree with you and your incredibly selective examples. Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) My examples are almost 50% of games under Thomas. If you remember these games or watch them again you will see the struggles. I never said a bad word about him, sacking Lamps was such a relieve and he improved us massively from day one plus delivered biggest trophy. Big fan of him. But we need to point out at struggles, it was not ideal. With Ben and Reece as wing backs and MM as one of the 3 attackers we had pragmatic approach with 9 players you dont expect to score. Tactics was to nick 1:0 wins with amazing defense which we did successfully many times. This is something I would like him to change next season and to put at least 4 offensive players because I dont think it can work in long run. Edited July 25, 2021 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Statistics disagree with you and your incredibly selective examples. No there is evidence to back that up. I can’t imagine watching Chelsea on a regular basis thinking we create a lot of chances. And if you look at the personal out there, where are they coming from. The 5 defenders? 2 defensive midfielders?our non creative attackers? https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/features/2021/5/14/22435783/why-arent-Chelsea-scoring-more-goals-and-how-can-we-fix-that Edited July 25, 2021 by Clockwork NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, avrobsws said: I will call it a reliable as we all know how much Roman is passionate about Chelsea. 130 Mil + 20 Mil is almost trending everywhere. Dortmund has mentioned already which means they are expecting and will be accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) Edited July 25, 2021 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Clockwork said: No there is evidence to back that up. I can’t imagine watching Chelsea on a regular basis thinking we create a lot of chances. And if you look at the personal out there, where are they coming from. The 5 defenders? 2 defensive midfielders?our non creative attackers? https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/features/2021/5/14/22435783/why-arent-Chelsea-scoring-more-goals-and-how-can-we-fix-that If that's the case then why are people banging on about Haaland being the answer to all our prayers instead of a creative midfielder/wingback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 This is good question and next season will tell if we bring him. But TT also wanted Hakimi. In games I mentioned above I dont think he would help us that much. Because: My big hope is Kai playing behind Haaland and delivering in terms of creativity. Ziyech should also be much better. Ben and Reece can be useful if Haaland is good with head which I dont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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