Mário César 1,483 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 why buying a defender that is the same level of chalobah? I dont understand but ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 yap. I think it is time to forget about osimhen and this is fine for me. too expensive, specially without ucl. lets see what the board will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 30 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: He is maybe better on the ball? But thats maybe. We need a top CB to lead our backline, not an average one. He isn’t an improvement on anyone we already have but I suppose if they can sell Chalobah for pure profit and replace him for free with someone they will see it as a win. If I am honest, if a club like Brighton/West Ham/Bournemouth etc signed him on a free I’d go ok thats a sensible signing. For us, its so mediocre. But thats obviously the remit for us now. Average and some sort of ties to Man City. Definitely not “maybe” better on the ball than Trev, he’s miles better. He can ping the ball around and distribute to the same degree that Colwill can. Trev doesn’t have that in his locker at all. Tosin to my eyes looks like a an 8/10 level CB whilst Trev is a solid 7. I think we improve slightly in defense with Tosin whilst improving massively in buildup play. On a free I see literally ZERO downside. If we were buying him as a £50m, “this guy has to be a superstar” deal then I’d be weary. bluesman2610 and kexik 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,819 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, Mário César said: why buying a defender that is the same level of chalobah? I dont understand but ok He is a better ball playing CB, who could potentially be even better at this point. All that - and you get a free swap, while adding all the profits to go out and get another player with those profits. Its like someone giving you the exact same house next door, but telling you - you also get 50k to buy a car if you swap. Jeez. People getting pissed off at a free signing in here. Go outside guys. Its really not that bad. YorkshireBlue, kexik, Strike and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 Trev is and has been very solid as a back 3 CB where he has had Thiago Silva next to him and other players that can mask his weaknesses. But I don’t think he’s good enough to be starting in a back 4 for a top club. Maybe for West Ham or Everton but not here. And Maresca likes playing 4-4-3 or 4-3-2-1, right? In which case I don’t see how selling Trev is this big loss that a\some of our fans think he is. He’d be purely a bench player if all of our CB’s are available. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 32 minutes ago, Mário César said: why buying a defender that is the same level of chalobah? I dont understand but ok We need to level the books asap. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,792 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 38 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Shouldn’t be replacing Chalobah with someone of the same level though in all honesty. Should be upgrading. Particularly with Thiago having left as well. I really hope we are going for another CB and a top one or we will be stuck with an average backline. Likes of Disasi & Chalobah/Tosin aren’t the CBs you build a defence chasing a CL spot around. Plus we have Levi and Badiashile as well, both who are younger and struggled last season so the need for a top top CB has never been more appropriate. Too many 3rd/4th choice CBs. I agree. If he's the only CB signing, we have problems. OneMoSalah, Blue Armour and Vesper 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 I think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 41 minutes ago, Pizy said: Definitely not “maybe” better on the ball than Trev, he’s miles better. He can ping the ball around and distribute to the same degree that Colwill can. Trev doesn’t have that in his locker at all. Tosin to my eyes looks like a an 8/10 level CB whilst Trev is a solid 7. I think we improve slightly in defense with Tosin whilst improving massively in buildup play. On a free I see literally ZERO downside. If we were buying him as a £50m, “this guy has to be a superstar” deal then I’d be weary. Have you watched him extensively, because given what Fullham fans are saying and given the attention he is getting no way he is a 8/10 CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 Solid but has a mistake in him. Unanimous viewing of Fulham fans on him apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,430 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Solid but has a mistake in him. Unanimous viewing of Fulham fans on him apparently. So very much like Chalobah. Recency bias is crazy prior to him coming back into the team instead of Disasi most wanted him gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 I also read some of their opinions and I wasn't that pleased in any case, the players also evoke and it could be a good surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 Keep in mind we’re also a much better team than Fulham and he’ll have MUCH better players around and in front of him. It’s fine to be skeptical, guys. But damn, he’s FREE! And his on-ball ability is a huge upgrade on what he’s replacing. I’d get the hesitation if he was costing us a monster fee with huge wages. But damn, how often can you sign a physical beast of a CB, WITH PL experience, with great ball playing ability, and on a free? Complete no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 39 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said: So very much like Chalobah. Recency bias is crazy prior to him coming back into the team instead of Disasi most wanted him gone. Think we still need one more CB to replace either Badiashile or Disasi. Todibo would be my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 8 minutes ago, Pizy said: Keep in mind we’re also a much better team than Fulham and he’ll have MUCH better players around and in front of him. It’s fine to be skeptical, guys. But damn, he’s FREE! And his on-ball ability is a huge upgrade on what he’s replacing. I’d get the hesitation if he was costing us a monster fee with huge wages. But damn, how often can you sign a physical beast of a CB, WITH PL experience, with great ball playing ability, and on a free? Complete no-brainer. Brother the issue here is you are overrating the shit out of him. "Huge upgrade on what he is replacing." Like you said he is on a free, don't think anyone is bothered by him coming in if he is depth player. But as an automatic starter that is an issue. Hope Axel Disasi is also sold, and we get another CB that is counted on to be a main starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 Romano already said we want a talented and young CB so we will surely get another, the problem is getting an absolute top class gem not some clown like Diomande. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: Think we still need one more CB to replace either Badiashile or Disasi. Todibo would be my choice. This may sound ridiculous but i am tired of French CBs; Fofana, Badishile, and Disasi have all been a let down. Okay maybe i would make an exception for Leroy Yoro. He seems to have generational CB potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Think we still need one more CB to replace either Badiashile or Disasi. Todibo would be my choice. Just now, Clockwork said: Brother the issue here is you are overrating the shit out of him. "Huge upgrade on what he is replacing." Like you said he is on a free, don't think anyone is bothered by him coming in if he is depth player. But as an automatic starter that is an issue. Hope Axel Disasi is also sold, and we get another CB that is counted on to be a main starter. There’s no chance we’re selling Disasi or Badiashile so soon after buying them. And I don’t think we should, tbh. Both can be useful squad cover. Think we only did that with Koulibaly because of his monster wages and because he was happy to go to Saudi at age 33 or whatever he was. Disasi and Badi I think deserve a chance to show themselves under a new manager. We’d have to take peanuts back for each or loan them out if the club want rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Pizy said: There’s no chance we’re selling Disasi or Badiashile so soon after buying them. And I don’t think we should, tbh. Both can be useful squad cover. Think we only did that with Koulibaly because of his monster wages and because he was happy to go to Saudi at age 33 or whatever he was. Disasi and Badi I think deserve a chance to show themselves under a new manager. We’d have to take peanuts back for each or loan them out if the club want rid. No manager can possibly fix Disasi, guy is crap. Needs to be sold asap no questions. Clockwork and mkh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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