OneMoSalah 9,089 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 On 29/02/2024 at 19:12, MoroccanBlue said: What makes you say this? Just a feeling I have. Think he is a huge risk. Doing well with Sporting, Benfica or Porto is a difficult barometer to judge a manager on. Good teams in their own rights but just don’t think he is the man for us. I mean I don’t think Poch is an outstanding manager by any stretch but the owners and footballing guys reportedly heavily favoured Poch over Amorim which says enough to me. On 01/03/2024 at 08:44, Reddish-Blue said: He won't be short on offers, just like Alonso and De Zerbi. Will be interesting to see where Amorim & De Zerbi end up in the manager merry go round. Maybe but I think de Zebri who has experience managing in Italys top division and the PL will be much more appealing to a lot of teams than Amorim too. Same again with Xabi Alonso - which yeah sure not exactly making any outrageous or unobvious statements saying that - but because he has a notable body of work in a top 5 division in Europe (in the Bundesliga where Bayern have dominated domestically for 10+ years now) as opposed to in a much poorer domestic league where Porto, Benfica & Sporting are traditionally the best teams most seasons (maybe Braga too). Amorim just strikes me as far too big a risk when you look at some of the guys out there and which leagues they are doing good jobs in. For us, for Liverpool, for Bayern, for United for whoever. I think the days of these Portuguese league coaches maybe being of a Mourinho-esque standard as opposed to a Villas-Boas-esque standard are long gone. Maybe a bit disrespectful towards the standards of the Portuguese league but I don’t think its particularly impressive to win there as a manager these days. Look how many average managers Benfica had when they were winning everything domestically and Porto beforehand too, I mean how many of them did well abroad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 On 02/03/2024 at 11:45, Reddish-Blue said: I'm sure Mikel would just laugh and look at his trophy collection from his time at Chelsea, hopefully Caicedo gets to lift a trophy someday and repay that mammoth price tag. 😆 Honours Chelsea Premier League: 2009–10, 2014–15 FA Cup: 2006–07, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2011–12 Football League Cup: 2006–07, 2014–15 FA Community Shield: 2009 UEFA Champions League: 2011–12 UEFA Europa League: 2012–13 Nigeria Africa Cup of Nations: 2013; third place: 2006, 2010, 2019 Summer Olympics bronze medalist: 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 13 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: He was frustrating to watch but at that point in time, he was what we needed in that deeper midfield role. For that goal vs Barcelona, he'll always be a LEGEND. Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, Special Juan said: Musiala is so much a typical Liverpool signing not really, when is the last time they bought a player who, at the time of purchase, was valued at €100m or more? Answer: they never have here is every player atm at that level and here is every other player who was at one time worth €100m or more since TM started, and now are not in order of highest ever value (Mbappe at €200m in 2018 was the highest ever) Neymar Lionel Messi Raheem Sterling (insane €160m in 2019, only Mbappé, Bellingham, Håland, Neymar, and Messi were ever valued higher) Sadio Mané Mohamed Salah Antoine Griezmann Kevin De Bruyne Philippe Coutinho Eden Hazard Jadon Sancho Ousmane Dembélé Cristiano Ronaldo Trent Alexander-Arnold Paulo Dybala Pedri João Félix Bernardo Silva N'Golo Kanté Dele Alli Jack Grealish Leroy Sané Virgil van Dijk Paul Pogba Jan Oblak Romelu Lukaku Christian Eriksen Mauro Icardi Edited March 4, 2024 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted March 5, 2024 Share Posted March 5, 2024 Does anyone know how much we have to raise in the Summer to clear FFP? There are quite a lot of rumours it is substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted March 5, 2024 Share Posted March 5, 2024 11 minutes ago, King Kante said: Does anyone know how much we have to raise in the Summer to clear FFP? There are quite a lot of rumours it is substantial. probably gallagher, chalobah and broja will be sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 5, 2024 Share Posted March 5, 2024 18 minutes ago, King Kante said: Does anyone know how much we have to raise in the Summer to clear FFP? There are quite a lot of rumours it is substantial. How Blues can splash out another £350 million in upcoming window despite FFP fears - explained Chelsea's spending shows no sign of stopping as Todd Boehly's Blues have been told how they can splash even more cash without breaching FFP rules. https://www.goal.com/en/lists/how-chlesea-can-splash-out-another350-million-in-upcoming-window-despite-ffp-fears-explained/blt2c04e9b4ca1310b6 WHAT HAPPENED? Reliable journalist Ben Jacobs has explained that despite all the rumours and reports about Chelsea potentially being in trouble regarding Financial Fair Play and the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability rules, the Blues will not face any trouble and can even go on to spend in excess of £200 million ($252.4m) without having to make sales. THE EXPLANATION Jacobs explained that Boehly's club could spend over £300 million if they decide to make sales of players such as Ian Maatsen, Lewis Hall, Armando Broja, Conor Gallagher and Trevoh Chalobah. All these players have been linked with a move away as they hold a decent market value. WHAT JACOBS SAID Speaking to Simon Philips for his newsletter, Si Phillips Talks Chelsea, Jacobs said: "Chelsea could comfortably spend £200m this summer even before sales, if they chose to spend £300-350m, it could be offset with sales such as Maatsen (£35m), Hall (£28m clause expected to kick in), Broja (plan to sell £35m), Gallagher and Chalobah." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted March 6, 2024 Share Posted March 6, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, King Kante said: Does anyone know how much we have to raise in the Summer to clear FFP? There are quite a lot of rumours it is substantial. Noone knows really, every now or then there are contradictory reports from journalists, so take everything people are talking about FFP with a grain of salt. Edited March 6, 2024 by ulvhedin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,089 Posted March 6, 2024 Share Posted March 6, 2024 On 05/03/2024 at 23:22, King Kante said: Does anyone know how much we have to raise in the Summer to clear FFP? There are quite a lot of rumours it is substantial. If we do, it is meant to be £100m or around before end of June/start of July. I don’t see how we can spend £300-350m let alone £200m, quoted in that article a few posts up. We have spent £1bn in the space of 3 transfer windows and only sold maybe £300m worth of players. People seem to think Broja, Chalobah and Maatsen are going to fetch top top dollar too. Or even be easy sells. Throw in the Gallagher rumours too. Maatsens release clause maybe will get triggered but again, £35m, lets see. Regarding the other two, we went from wanting £50-60m for Broja to accepting a £4 or £5m loan fee which will go to virtually nothing if he plays a lot. Whys that? Chalobah also made it clear he doesn’t want to take a big step down from Chelsea after Bayern interest which is why he didn’t go to Forrest. Selling Gallagher would also be insane even for £50m. People can bury their heads in the sand if they want but there are more than enough things that point more towards us needing to sell than not needing to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted March 7, 2024 Share Posted March 7, 2024 10 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: If we do, it is meant to be £100m or around before end of June/start of July. I don’t see how we can spend £300-350m let alone £200m, quoted in that article a few posts up. We have spent £1bn in the space of 3 transfer windows and only sold maybe £300m worth of players. People seem to think Broja, Chalobah and Maatsen are going to fetch top top dollar too. Or even be easy sells. Throw in the Gallagher rumours too. Maatsens release clause maybe will get triggered but again, £35m, lets see. Regarding the other two, we went from wanting £50-60m for Broja to accepting a £4 or £5m loan fee which will go to virtually nothing if he plays a lot. Whys that? Chalobah also made it clear he doesn’t want to take a big step down from Chelsea after Bayern interest which is why he didn’t go to Forrest. Selling Gallagher would also be insane even for £50m. People can bury their heads in the sand if they want but there are more than enough things that point more towards us needing to sell than not needing to sell. we made more money in sells than 300M pounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,089 Posted March 7, 2024 Share Posted March 7, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mário César said: we made more money in sells than 300M pounds... In all honesty, it really doesn’t matter how much it was unless it was ridiculously close to what we spent. Which it wasn’t. Call it £500m if you want - the club aren’t recording huge pre-tax losses for the last 2 years for no reason. I am a bit worried that people really are stupid enough to believe that there isn’t any chance of a huge financial problem coming up at the club. The club just announced a pre tax loss of £90 million up to June 2023. And it was over £120m the previous year. To put this in contrast, you are allowed £105m over a 3 year period for PL profit & sustainability rules. Everton barely spent over that, worked with the PL extensively and still got walloped with 10 points before it was changed to 6 after an appeal. What do people think being nearly £100m will be worth? Thats a big reason why there are persistent rumours of selling home grown players (as they are counted as pure profit on the clubs books) to generate over £100m this summer. We don’t generate that sort of cash for any players, yet alone homegrown ones, then we are definitely in some sort of trouble. I don’t see how we couldn’t be. Edited March 7, 2024 by OneMoSalah Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted March 7, 2024 Share Posted March 7, 2024 2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: In all honesty, it really doesn’t matter how much it was unless it was ridiculously close to what we spent. Which it wasn’t. Call it £500m if you want - the club aren’t recording huge pre-tax losses for the last 2 years for no reason. I am a bit worried that people really are stupid enough to believe that there isn’t any chance of a huge financial problem coming up at the club. The club just announced a pre tax loss of £90 million up to June 2023. And it was over £120m the previous year. To put this in contrast, you are allowed £105m over a 3 year period for PL profit & sustainability rules. Everton barely spent over that, worked with the PL extensively and still got walloped with 10 points before it was changed to 6 after an appeal. What do people think being nearly £100m will be worth? Thats a big reason why there are persistent rumours of selling home grown players (as they are counted as pure profit on the clubs books) to generate over £100m this summer. We don’t generate that sort of cash for any players, yet alone homegrown ones, then we are definitely in some sort of trouble. I don’t see how we couldn’t be. we'll have to sell gallagher, broja and chalobah and try to get close to 80 million for them 40 gallagher 20 broja 20 chalobah Oh and maatsen that should be 100M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,710 Posted March 7, 2024 Share Posted March 7, 2024 13 hours ago, Mário César said: we made more money in sells than 300M pounds... Far easier when you have a squad with more 'PL proven' players, even though they were massive flops in their last season with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,974 Posted March 8, 2024 Share Posted March 8, 2024 Thomas Tuchel has targeted a return as Chelsea boss when he leaves Bayern Munich in the summer, but the German coach is also interested in Manchester United and Barcelona. (Sky Sports Germany) Please Please Please, be true, for us I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted March 8, 2024 Share Posted March 8, 2024 I prefer tuchel over amorim or de zerbi, but I have some doubts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted March 8, 2024 Share Posted March 8, 2024 11 hours ago, Mário César said: we'll have to sell gallagher, broja and chalobah and try to get close to 80 million for them 40 gallagher 20 broja 20 chalobah Oh and maatsen that should be 100M Which club is buying Broja for 20 million? He looks so much worse since his injury. I just hope he doesn't end up like CHO, all that potential and we ended up getting around 5 million for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted March 8, 2024 Share Posted March 8, 2024 4 hours ago, bigbluewillie said: Thomas Tuchel has targeted a return as Chelsea boss when he leaves Bayern Munich in the summer As if the current owners would bring back the guy they sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted March 8, 2024 Share Posted March 8, 2024 2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: Which club is buying Broja for 20 million? He looks so much worse since his injury. I just hope he doesn't end up like CHO, all that potential and we ended up getting around 5 million for him. We still have to sell hall and lukaku we easily get 100M this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted March 8, 2024 Share Posted March 8, 2024 50 minutes ago, Mário César said: We still have to sell hall and lukaku we easily get 100M this summer Why should we sell Lukaku when this club desperately needs a striker? bigbluewillie and Blue Armour 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted March 8, 2024 Share Posted March 8, 2024 26 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Why should we sell Lukaku when this club desperately needs a striker? Because he is toxic, doesn't want to be here and is on big wages Blue Armour and bigbluewillie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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