TheHulk 2,647 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 The type of talent you go for if available instead of all those no name brazilians. lucio and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,400 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 20 hours ago, robsblubot said: Hehe well, he had a few (more like several) WC players around him to help out back then. Seriously though we complain about caicedo’s passing, but he can hit a long ball and assist rarely tho (still 20yo). The one thing he has in common with Mikel right now is the absolute inability to shoot and score goals. caicedo is quick and very mobile—the opposite of Mikel. Despite the shortcoming in caicedo a game he’s still more useful than Mikel was. Finally we agree on something. Never thought Mikel was all that and to this day I found him to be a very average player, yet now since his podcast he’s getting Chelsea legend labels. It’s as if people are pretending to forget how frustrating he was. Side to side Mikel. Wasn’t great technically, limited passing range, offered next to nothing in creating chances, but was decent defensively. Ramires was more of a legend than Mikel. robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,378 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 Speaking of Ramires just saw this yesterday wouldn’t even have recognized him without the caption lucio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Vytis33 said: Speaking of Ramires just saw this yesterday wouldn’t even have recognized him without the caption Saw him at the Viali charity game live and he was fat with an Afro lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 20 minutes ago, TheHulk said: The type of talent you go for if available instead of all those no name brazilians. We need him back because he’s our guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 3, 2024 Share Posted March 3, 2024 18 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Finally we agree on something. Never thought Mikel was all that and to this day I found him to be a very average player, yet now since his podcast he’s getting Chelsea legend labels. It’s as if people are pretending to forget how frustrating he was. Side to side Mikel. Wasn’t great technically, limited passing range, offered next to nothing in creating chances, but was decent defensively. Ramires was more of a legend than Mikel. Mikel was an underrated baller. Strong as an ox , dominant in the air. Didn’t make mistakes. Prime Mikel would be a huge asset to this team. watch him for Nigeria and he actually had a good range of forward long passing and could drive up the pitch but wasn’t really his job here. Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 16 hours ago, lucio said: Didn’t make mistakes. Are you being serious here? 😄 I still remember him walking around nonchalantly, not closing players down, just being slow overall in situations. He would probably be slightly better than Caicedo though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,677 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 17 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: It’s as if people are pretending to forget how frustrating he was. He was frustrating to watch but at that point in time, he was what we needed in that deeper midfield role. 17 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Ramires was more of a legend than Mikel. For that goal vs Barcelona, he'll always be a LEGEND. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 18 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Finally we agree on something. Never thought Mikel was all that and to this day I found him to be a very average player, yet now since his podcast he’s getting Chelsea legend labels. It’s as if people are pretending to forget how frustrating he was. Side to side Mikel. Wasn’t great technically, limited passing range, offered next to nothing in creating chances, but was decent defensively. Ramires was more of a legend than Mikel. For me top3 most annoying players in the last 20 years: Mikel, Willian and Mount. Ofc they were not the worst, far from it but can't compare them to Drinkwater, Bakayoko and guys like that because they were not starters and didn't stay long. But those 3 for years and years played every game and it was painful every time seeing them in starting lineup. Now retrospectively I admire Willian more but remember for years I wanted upgrade there and his end product was so annoying. Pedro was better but they usually shared minutes. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,836 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 18 hours ago, Vytis33 said: Speaking of Ramires just saw this yesterday wouldn’t even have recognized him without the caption I thought Samuel Umtiti. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,677 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 39 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Now retrospectively I admire Willian more but remember for years I wanted upgrade there and his end product was so annoying Agree the end product was annoying but he's still far far ahead of Madueke/Mudryk on the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 willian was a very decent player a way better than kalou, madueke or mudryk. far better from all of them bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 3 hours ago, manpe said: Are you being serious here? 😄 I still remember him walking around nonchalantly, not closing players down, just being slow overall in situations. He would probably be slightly better than Caicedo though. Didn’t constantly make mistakes on the ball and give it away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 Musiala is so much a typical Liverpool signing Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 Get him out of my club. To think we could've had Gvardiol instead of this fraud. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 On 29/02/2024 at 19:12, MoroccanBlue said: What makes you say this? Just a feeling I have. Think he is a huge risk. Doing well with Sporting, Benfica or Porto is a difficult barometer to judge a manager on. Good teams in their own rights but just don’t think he is the man for us. I mean I don’t think Poch is an outstanding manager by any stretch but the owners and footballing guys reportedly heavily favoured Poch over Amorim which says enough to me. On 01/03/2024 at 08:44, Reddish-Blue said: He won't be short on offers, just like Alonso and De Zerbi. Will be interesting to see where Amorim & De Zerbi end up in the manager merry go round. Maybe but I think de Zebri who has experience managing in Italys top division and the PL will be much more appealing to a lot of teams than Amorim too. Same again with Xabi Alonso - which yeah sure not exactly making any outrageous or unobvious statements saying that - but because he has a notable body of work in a top 5 division in Europe (in the Bundesliga where Bayern have dominated domestically for 10+ years now) as opposed to in a much poorer domestic league where Porto, Benfica & Sporting are traditionally the best teams most seasons (maybe Braga too). Amorim just strikes me as far too big a risk when you look at some of the guys out there and which leagues they are doing good jobs in. For us, for Liverpool, for Bayern, for United for whoever. I think the days of these Portuguese league coaches maybe being of a Mourinho-esque standard as opposed to a Villas-Boas-esque standard are long gone. Maybe a bit disrespectful towards the standards of the Portuguese league but I don’t think its particularly impressive to win there as a manager these days. Look how many average managers Benfica had when they were winning everything domestically and Porto beforehand too, I mean how many of them did well abroad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,110 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 On 02/03/2024 at 11:45, Reddish-Blue said: I'm sure Mikel would just laugh and look at his trophy collection from his time at Chelsea, hopefully Caicedo gets to lift a trophy someday and repay that mammoth price tag. 😆 Honours Chelsea Premier League: 2009–10, 2014–15 FA Cup: 2006–07, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2011–12 Football League Cup: 2006–07, 2014–15 FA Community Shield: 2009 UEFA Champions League: 2011–12 UEFA Europa League: 2012–13 Nigeria Africa Cup of Nations: 2013; third place: 2006, 2010, 2019 Summer Olympics bronze medalist: 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,110 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 13 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: He was frustrating to watch but at that point in time, he was what we needed in that deeper midfield role. For that goal vs Barcelona, he'll always be a LEGEND. Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,110 Posted March 4, 2024 Share Posted March 4, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, Special Juan said: Musiala is so much a typical Liverpool signing not really, when is the last time they bought a player who, at the time of purchase, was valued at €100m or more? Answer: they never have here is every player atm at that level and here is every other player who was at one time worth €100m or more since TM started, and now are not in order of highest ever value (Mbappe at €200m in 2018 was the highest ever) Neymar Lionel Messi Raheem Sterling (insane €160m in 2019, only Mbappé, Bellingham, Håland, Neymar, and Messi were ever valued higher) Sadio Mané Mohamed Salah Antoine Griezmann Kevin De Bruyne Philippe Coutinho Eden Hazard Jadon Sancho Ousmane Dembélé Cristiano Ronaldo Trent Alexander-Arnold Paulo Dybala Pedri João Félix Bernardo Silva N'Golo Kanté Dele Alli Jack Grealish Leroy Sané Virgil van Dijk Paul Pogba Jan Oblak Romelu Lukaku Christian Eriksen Mauro Icardi Edited March 4, 2024 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted March 5, 2024 Share Posted March 5, 2024 Does anyone know how much we have to raise in the Summer to clear FFP? There are quite a lot of rumours it is substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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