Chelsea Transfers

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

56 minutes ago, Sankaunited said:

Well for me his skillset is similar to Robben, apart that Madueke can do it with both legs

It was very encouraging to read your opinion that Noni is PSV's best since Robben. If anything, he looks more explosive in his final movement to create space and get his shot away. Noni also clearly has super timing and so strikes a ball very, very, cleanly.

For me Arjen was smoother and more heads up when carrying the ball. This made him a triple threat in attacking areas; create space for a strike at goal, dip a shoulder and head towards the goal line to deliver a cross, or pick a pass to a running teammate. Manduke may share this versatility, but I haven't seen it demonstrated as yet. I understand however that you are not claiming the youngster to be on quite the same level as the legend. 🙂

56 minutes ago, Sankaunited said:

The video is also against Ajax. They know exactly what hes capable off

This is exactly the issue. Ajax may be particularly aware of Noni's propensities, but I'm sure you'll agree that all opponents will have some knowledge of them. What he wants to do will show up glaringly when sides watch film in preparation to face him. They'll be ready for him so, as you say, it will come down to whether or not they can stop him. If he remains predictable stopping him can only be easier than it would be if he was less predictable, if he had more strings to his bow. 🙂

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by OhForAGreavsie

[Pizy 18,848]

I just pray that these 2 new wingers can settle quickly. The deadliest attackers in the PL over recent years are those who are super athletic and extremely direct. Those that want the ball and love to run hard at opposing defenders. Salah, Mané, Diaz, Jota, Son, Saka, Martinelli. 

We haven’t had a truly great one since Hazard left. Pulisic when in very top form did it but those moments were unfortunately extremely rare. Timo was supposed to be the perfect direct, aggressive wide forward but well….

 
 

 

[LAM09 7,043]

1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Another PL club will definitely take a chance on CHO, just depends on whether he'd be willing to take a pay cut as no-one's paying him 120k a week

That's the worry. We dug ourselves a hole the moment we succumbed to his demands.

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

41 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

That's the worry. We dug ourselves a hole the moment we succumbed to his demands.

He has just one year of contract left. And his new salary won't be much lesser so should be easy to resolve.

[nyikolajevics 2,689]

1 hour ago, TheHulk said:

Pletti guy is friend with Vivell so this one might be reliable, hope Joao staying.

From our current attackers, he would be the last one I got rid of. (among CHO, Pulisic, Ziyech, Aubameyang, Lukaku, Sterling)

I want to see how he does for an offensive team. Especially no for 35M, would be a massive loss. Letting Werner go for 20 million and buy Auba for 15 was same stupid idea. If Bayern wants him they should pay good price. 

[Pizy 18,848]

I wouldn’t sell Havertz either. Him no longer carrying the burden of being our primary goal scorer will do him wonders. It’s clear now that he’s never going to be a super prolific scorer in the PL. But he’s still a great guy to have as an option in the squad. He’s a good big game player as well who can pop up with important goals.

Pulisic, Ziyech, CHO, Auba can all go. Keep Kai. 

[Thor 2,687]

Kai gets too much hate. His hold up play and ability to make dangerous runs is very valuable on a team that can actually finish and put balls in the back of the net. 

 

[Reddish-Blue 2,488]

2 hours ago, Jype said:

Read the last paragraph. This rule only counts for domestic loans between English clubs.

If it's true we're looking at the loan market for a midfielder, could it really be anyone other than Kessie or McKennie? Either would be underwhelming.

Yep, you are correct. 

[Superblue 6,372]

2 hours ago, Jype said:

Read the last paragraph. This rule only counts for domestic loans between English clubs.

If it's true we're looking at the loan market for a midfielder, could it really be anyone other than Kessie or McKennie? Either would be underwhelming.

If that is indeed the case, then I wouldn't be surprised if the loan approach was for Bissouma.

Talk has come up today that we've enquired about him. Obviously Potter knows him well and rates him highly from his time at Brighton where he was an important player in their team under him. Struggling to get game time at Spurs, I could see us possibly eyeing him as a temporary move for now to help plug a gap.

Maybe the new ownership didn't get the memo that some clubs just don't conduct dealings with one another!

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

27 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I wouldn’t sell Havertz either. Him no longer carrying the burden of being our primary goal scorer will do him wonders. It’s clear now that he’s never going to be a super prolific scorer in the PL. But he’s still a great guy to have as an option in the squad. He’s a good big game player as well who can pop up with important goals.

Pulisic, Ziyech, CHO, Auba can all go. Keep Kai. 

If he cant carry the burden of scoring or assisting goal’s despite playing the majority of his career as an attacking midfielder/number 10/CF here and in Germany then is he really worth keeping? I don’t get it, I mean what’s the point in being an attacking player in this day and age if your not going to score goals or create them? I mean he’s supposed to be a once in a generation talent - the excuses he gets is ludicrous.

Keep him for what? Maybe he should of been a holding midfielder or a centre back if the burden of scoring goals and assisting is too much for him 😂 

“He’s a great guy to have as an option in the squad” Hmm, is he really? He is probably one of the most inconsistent footballers I have ever seen in a Chelsea shirt. I mean once every 3 months he will do something of note before going back to pretending he is an elite level footballer. Actually, tbf one thing I can think of that he has been consistent at is pressing opposition players into a position where they cannot really go anywhere before fouling them.

“Hes a good big game player” When was the last big game he provided something? And when I say something I mean for us seen as the most recent one he did provide something but it was to give away a penalty to Man City. Unless we are classing Chelsea-Palace or Chelsea-Salzburg as big games this season. And even then if he didn't score in either you wouldn’t of noticed he was playing.

I genuinely don’t see how he is any different to any of the other attackers we have/had, in particular Werner, Pulisic and Ziyech. He is clearly not cut out for this level which we aspire to reach. Sell whilst his value is high enough to recuperate some of the £72m we paid for him before its too late. If he cannot deal with the pressures of playing at a club of this level, he should play at a smaller club. 

Edited January 20, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[Reddish-Blue 2,488]

2 hours ago, DDA said:

Fingers and toes crossed. Get that fraud out and away to Germany.

Feel like he was going to end up at Bayern Munich at some point in his career and from memory our manager at the time didn't even want him as he said Havertz & Mount would occupy similar areas of the pitch...

[Bumtrubbler 6]

3 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

It was very encouraging to read your opinion that Noni is PSV's best since Robben. If anything, he looks more explosive in his final movement to create space and get his shot away. Noni also clearly has super timing and so strikes a ball very, very, cleanly.

For me Arjen was smoother and more heads up when carrying the ball. This made him a triple threat in attacking areas; create space for a strike at goal, dip a shoulder and head towards the goal line to deliver a cross, or pick a pass to a running teammate. Manduke may share this versatility, but I haven't seen it demonstrated as yet. I understand however that you are not claiming the youngster to be on quite the same level as the legend. 🙂

This is exactly the issue. Ajax may be particularly aware of Noni's propensities, but I'm sure you'll agree that all opponents will have some knowledge of them. What he wants to do will show up glaringly when sides watch film in preparation to face him. They'll be ready for him so, as you say, it will come down to whether or not they can stop him. If he remains predictable stopping him can only be easier than it would be if he was less predictable, if he had more strings to his bow. 🙂

 

salah does exactly the same thing & scored 40 odd the other season. just saying knowing what he may do & stopping him are two different things if he's good enough. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻