Chelsea Transfers

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

19 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

In the end we didn't want to offer €70m for Hakimi.

There are also conflicting reports that we did, and Hakimi and his agent preferred PSG. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

4 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

There are also conflicting reports that we did, and Hakimi and his agent preferred PSG. 

Most report said we only willing to offer up to €60m, while PSG willing to meet Inter's asking price.

Edited January 6, 2022 by Blues Forever

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

2 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Most report said we only willing to offer up to €60m, while PSG willing to meet Inter's asking price.

€60m is what Milan value Theo at...

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

€60m is what Milan value Theo at...

Could be more than that if they want to create a bidding war.

[Vesper 29,171]

33 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Well, I mean we almost bought Hakimi even though we had Reece James. 

great point

[Vesper 29,171]

2 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Could be more than that if they want to create a bidding war.

toss €60m on the table, take it or leave it, and the yank hedge fund owners will bite out hand off

plus he can toss in a makeweight player and lower the cash a wee bit

I would try and recall Emerson and toss him in

AC Milan would really go for that, Emerson is only 27, so far from rinsed, and he is a proven Serie A performer AND an Italian national team player/part time starter

he would jump at the chance to go and live in Milano and play for a storied old grand team like AC, who are fighting for trophies

[Blues Forever 1,232]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

toss €60m on the table, take it or leave it, and the yank hedge fund owners will bite out hand off

plus he can toss in a makeweight player and lower the cash a wee bit

I would try and recall Emerson and toss him in

AC Milan would really go for that, Emerson is only 27, so far from rinsed, and he is a proven Serie A performer AND an Italian national team player/part time starter

he would jump at the chance to go and live in Milano and play for a storied old grand team like AC, who are fighting for trophies

Yes, but so far Lyon are refusing to return Emerson. Milan could create a bidding war in the summer when City, Barcelona, Juventus, Newcastle, United, and PSG are looking for a new left back.

Edited January 6, 2022 by Blues Forever

[Vesper 29,171]

5 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Yes, but so far Lyon are refusing to return Emerson. Milan could create a bidding war in the summer when City, Barcelona, Juventus, Newcastle, United, and PSG are looking for a new left back.

Lyon is shit this year, 13th in the league, yet far above the relegation zone and have a game in hand (and could move up to 10th)

no euro place race for them more than likely

and they are not in great shape financially

toss them some quid to break the loan and move on

[chelsea_4_eva 1,163]

I think, if there is zero chance of Digne coming just on loan, then we might go for Theo. I think the club are waiting on Evertons stance regarding Digne. He wants to play european football but we only want a loan so we'll see what happens

[OhForAGreavsie 5,900]

4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

There is a major risk Chilwell doesn't come back the same player.

I think the likelihood is that he will come back the same player. This is why, if we do attempt to sign a left sided defender this window, I want it to be someone slated to be the starter, not a backup.

[milka 3,360]

Chelsea  have approached Barcelona regarding defender Serginho Dest. They have asked about what it will take to land the American, with the Spanish side wanting no less than €20M. However, they are willing to negotiate.

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by milka

[OhForAGreavsie 5,900]

56 minutes ago, milka said:

Chelsea  have approached Barcelona regarding defender Serginho Dest. They have asked about what it will take to land the American, with the Spanish side wanting no less than €20M. However, they are willing to negotiate.

 

I'm not surprised Barca might be willing to negotiate downward. I've only seen YouTube highlights but I don't like what I see from this bloke at all. His M.O. features way too much in the way of flicks and tricks. Exactly the type of football played by people who think they are better than they really are. I've said before that the best performance I've ever seen was Bayern's demolition of our team at The Bridge. Zero flicks, zero tricks. Proper football played to an exceptionally high standard. Get the ball, protect the ball, move the ball, pass the ball with good weight, move to support the ball again and repeat. Beautiful football played by brilliant footballers.

Dest is exactly the type of player I had in mind when I accused our decision makers of being too attracted to the shiny things over the solid, genuinely good things. @Vespercan send me a bill for use of her material if she likes but, for me, Dest is a hard pass. 

Edited January 6, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[Pizy 18,517]

Dest is certainly a player you’d buy on potential and hoping a top class coach like Tuchel can get the best out of. Being out of the current Barca chaos and into a more structured environment may also help. He’s so young still that I think he can only get better.

Wouldn’t be my first choice but he would be miles better than seeing another few games of Pulisic or CHO or Azpi as a wingback.

 

[Atomiswave 6,072]

5 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

There are also conflicting reports that we did, and Hakimi and his agent preferred PSG. 

I posted a link in the summer where his agent said that the mere fact Chelsea won CL scared him, the intensity etc spooked him. Was never fit for purpose here.

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

Just now, Atomiswave said:

I posted a link in the summer where his agent said that the mere fact Chelsea won CL scared him, the intensity etc spooked him. Was never fit for purpose here.

That is some bollocks if you ask me. PSG probably offered him a better wage and/or under the table earnings. 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,900]

4 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

I posted a link in the summer where his agent said that the mere fact Chelsea won CL scared him, the intensity etc spooked him. Was never fit for purpose here.

 

2 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

That is some bollocks if you ask me. PSG probably offered him a better wage and/or under the table earnings. 

I'm with MB on this. This feels like great agent work to me. Doesn't want to diminish the chance of a late career 'pension fund' move to Chelsea so, instead of letting it be known that his client doesn't fancy Chelsea, he produces a cover story.

[Vesper 29,171]

23 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I'm not surprised Barca might be willing to negotiate downward. I've only seen YouTube highlights but I don't like what I see from this bloke at all. His M.O. features way too much in the way of flicks and tricks. Exactly the type of football played by people who think they are better than they really are. I've said before that the best performance I've ever seen was Bayern's demolition of our team at The Bridge. Zero flicks, zero tricks. Proper football played to an exceptionally high standard. Get the ball, protect the ball, move the ball, pass the ball with good weight, move to support the ball again and repeat. Beautiful football played by brilliant footballers.

Dest is exactly the type of player I had in mind when I accused our decision makers of being too attracted to the shiny things over the solid, genuinely good things. @Vespercan send me a bill for use of her material if she likes but, for me, Dest is a hard pass. 

no bill from me!

consider my posts a type of Cura Annonae ✋🏾

[Vesper 29,171]

42 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I'm not surprised Barca might be willing to negotiate downward. I've only seen YouTube highlights but I don't like what I see from this bloke at all. His M.O. features way too much in the way of flicks and tricks. Exactly the type of football played by people who think they are better than they really are. I've said before that the best performance I've ever seen was Bayern's demolition of our team at The Bridge. Zero flicks, zero tricks. Proper football played to an exceptionally high standard. Get the ball, protect the ball, move the ball, pass the ball with good weight, move to support the ball again and repeat. Beautiful football played by brilliant footballers.

Dest is exactly the type of player I had in mind when I accused our decision makers of being too attracted to the shiny things over the solid, genuinely good things. @Vespercan send me a bill for use of her material if she likes but, for me, Dest is a hard pass. 

I will add this caveat about Dest

IF we can get Barca down to 15m, 16m euros (£12.5m to £13.3m)

I would pull the trigger

Why?

Cuz he is a Dutch yank

he is very young (only turned 21yo two months ago)

plays for the US national Sr team with Puli

has a huge following back in the US

so is marketing gold (thus lowering the cost even more), and might help Puli psychologically

and, as backup utility player, he might be useful for a spell, especially as I think his salary is not too high (£64K PW from what I see)

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by Vesper