Chelsea Transfers

[Blues Forever 1,232]

12 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I never suggested that

I was only commenting on why would we want to toss away AC

It would only make sense if Tuchel want to use the back four. Considering we will still using the back three, swapping Christensen for Hakimi doesn't make any sense.

Edited June 9, 2021 by Blues Forever

[Vesper 29,283]

52 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

It would only make sense if Tuchel want to use the back four. Considering we will still using the back three, swapping Christensen for Hakimi doesn't make any sense.

it would if you use my example

Reece to RCB

Hakimi as RWB

Azpi as reserve for both positions

I just think that it should be Zouma who leaves, not AC

I would love to see see the following end up as our defensive backs thsi season

I am going to use my swap scenario I posted about AC Milan above to do this

 

CB Rudiger

CB Thiago Silva (next season replace him with Maxence Lacroix if he is still available, or Sven Botman)

CB AC

LCB Romagnoli

RCB/RB/RWB Reece

 

LB/LWB Chilwell

LB/LWB/LCB Theo Hernandez

RB/RWB/RMF Hakimi

RB/RWB/RCB Azpi

 

That is an EPL title winning capable back 4, back 5

deep, mostly young, multi-positional in flexibility

super leadership (Azpi, Rudiger, Romagnoli, Thiago Silva, all have been captains (Azpi, Romagnoli, Thiago) or vice captains Rudi)

we could play 65 games (yes, you read that right, 65, the only game we do not for sure play in is the CS, we blew that (and a chance at being the first team in global football history to win 7 topflight, true trophies in one season) by losing the damn FA Cup final, ffs) so all 9 will DEFFO be needed, and that is even if we have zero injuries there

 

Sell Tomori (included in my Milan swap deal), Zouma, Alonso, Emerson (included in my Milan swap deal)

Edited June 9, 2021 by Vesper

[Vesper 29,283]

1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

This is the full translation from Di Marzio:

Hakimi is Inter's prized possesion in a window where the club is forced to raise money from sales for their balances. Two clubs have already taken concrete steps towards signing the wing back, PSG and Chelsea. Both clubs have submitted near €60m offers. Chelsea can offer several counterparts in the deal which Inter would like, not only Emerson Palmieri, but also Christensen, their Danish center back.

The moves in defense don't center around Hakimi alone. Among the players on expiring deals, a one-year extension offer with a reduced salary was made to Ranocchia. There are also talks open with Kolarov, while the return of Vanheusden is possible; Inter have an option for the player who spent the season at Standard Liège. Player who are exiting, on the other hand, include Joao Mario. The club where he played last season, Sporting Club, offered a low sum to acquire him permanently, the offer was not considered. Inter are expecting other clubs such as Nice and Villarreal to get involved.

João Mário, Geoffrey Kondogbia, Steven Nzonzi, Zlatan, João Cancelo, Quincy Promes, Danilo, etc

the international forever movers

[Jase 43,479]

 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,904]

3 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

It would only make sense if Tuchel want to use the back four. Considering we will still using the back three, swapping Christensen for Hakimi doesn't make any sense.

Makes no sense even with a four I'd say. Andreas has simply become too good.

I think we would all agree that the minimum likelihood of Chelsea being prepared to release Andreas is 0%. Well, my guess is that the maximum likelihood is roughly 100 times that. 🙂

Edited June 9, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

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Club make first offer for Chelsea player – ‘Just under €15m (around £12.5m)’, DoF meeting with intermediaries soon

http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-made-first-offer-Chelsea-player-just-e15m-dof-meeting-intermediaries-soon/

 

While the Emerson Palmieri exit sagas over the past few years have been tedious and boring, the Italy international has never been closer from an exit from Chelsea.

Pushed to one side by Thomas Tuchel, the left-back has been told by his national team manager, Roberto Mancini, to find himself more game time elsewhere, and there are a couple of clubs in Italy prepared to welcome him.

Napoli are one of those, as their new manager Luciano Spalletti has already worked with Palmieri in the past during his stint at AS Roma and appreciates what he has to offer.

That’s why the Serie A club are the ones pushing the hardest for the time being, at least according to Calciomercato.it.

The Italian website have an exclusive on Wednesday reporting that Napoli have made their first offer for the Chelsea defender after Spalletti ‘pushed strongly’ to get the man at his side.

It’s explained ‘the first appraisal put in place is of just under €15m’, although the Blues do hope to hold onto him for now, ‘also thinking about other potential negotiations such as the one with Inter that would involve Hakimi’.

Not only that, but Palmieri’s salary is currently at over €4m after tax (my add, bullshit, that is GROSS, not after tax, and in euros it is 4.5m or so atm, it is £3.9m officially) , which ‘makes it difficult to find an agreement’ for now.

That’s why Napoli’s director of football, Cristiano Giuntoli, has ‘asked for a meeting with the negotiating intermediaries’, meaning ‘there could be developments in the next few days’.

Either way, the Italians are aware they are ‘facing a complex negotiations with low percentages of getting something done’.

But you don’t get if you don’t try, eh?

[Strike 7,309]

Andreas is an ideal ascension plan for when Thiago Silva leaves in a year. I hope Tuchel convinces him to sign a new contract and stick around even though he would be behind Rudiger and TS at the start of next season.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

22 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Makes no sense even with a four I'd say. Andreas has simply become too good.

I think we would all agree that the minimum likelihood of Chelsea being prepared to release Andreas is 0%. Well, my guess is that the maximum likelihood is roughly 100 times that. 🙂

Christensen is still untested in the back four, so yes he could be a liability just like under Sarri and Lampard. I would say only Zouma, Silva, and Rudiger have looked decent in the back four.

Edited June 9, 2021 by Blues Forever

[Strike 7,309]

2 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Christensen is still untested in the back four, so yes he could be a liability.

I'm wary of forming any conclusions from how players did under Frank.

[Vesper 29,283]

1 minute ago, Blues Forever said:

Christensen is still untested in the back four, so yes he could be a liability.

I trust him in a back 4 more than I do Zouma

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Just now, Strike said:

I'm wary of forming any conclusions from how players did under Frank.

Christensen also a liability under Sarri.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Just now, Vesper said:

I trust him in a back 4 more than I do Zouma

Funny, i'm the opposite. I trust Zouma more than Christensen in a back four.

[Fernando 6,508]

4 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

This is the full translation from Di Marzio:

Hakimi is Inter's prized possesion in a window where the club is forced to raise money from sales for their balances. Two clubs have already taken concrete steps towards signing the wing back, PSG and Chelsea. Both clubs have submitted near €60m offers. Chelsea can offer several counterparts in the deal which Inter would like, not only Emerson Palmieri, but also Christensen, their Danish center back.

The moves in defense don't center around Hakimi alone. Among the players on expiring deals, a one-year extension offer with a reduced salary was made to Ranocchia. There are also talks open with Kolarov, while the return of Vanheusden is possible; Inter have an option for the player who spent the season at Standard Liège. Player who are exiting, on the other hand, include Joao Mario. The club where he played last season, Sporting Club, offered a low sum to acquire him permanently, the offer was not considered. Inter are expecting other clubs such as Nice and Villarreal to get involved.

What happens with Real Madrid? Don't they have some buy back clause or something like that?

[Vesper 29,283]

Just now, Blues Forever said:

Christensen also a liability under Sarri.

the old smoker turned KANTE into a liability in his rigid system

I would never use Sarri-based performance for a measurement

 

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Just now, Fernando said:

What happens with Real Madrid? Don't they have some buy back clause or something like that?

Madrid have the first refusal not a buy back.

[Vesper 29,283]

Just now, Blues Forever said:

Funny, i'm the opposite. I trust Zouma more than Christensen in a back four.

not a chance for me

AC has far better positional sense, and his confidence is back to pre Barca cockup level from all that I can see

Zouma is a nightmare waiting to happen on the ball, especially in a back 4

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

the old smoker turned KANTE into a liability in his rigid system

I would never use Sarri-based performance for a measurement

 

 

To each to their own, i still don't trust Christensen to do well in a back four.

[Fernando 6,508]

2 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Madrid have the first refusal not a buy back.

Okay so once Inter agrees on the value then we have to wait to see if Real Madrid will match that offer?