lucio 5,418 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Don’t piss around kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted August 9, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted August 9, 2020 Am concerned by the lack of movement on defensive signings. All we are hearing are just rumors, interests etc and nothing concrete. killer1257, OneMoSalah, Henrique and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Am concerned by the lack of movement on defensive signings. All we are hearing are just rumors, interests etc and nothing concrete. Feels like everybody is full time on Havertz atm, and they plan to move on the next target after that. If all of those deals take as long as the Havertz one, we'll be done just in time for the 21/22 season then. Henrique and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,948 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Having just watched some Ben White on YouTube, the guy looks the business. Could be a great signing if Rice proves impossible. But as with the LB situation, I imagine we have to hurry up and sell or loan one of our CB's before a new one comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Artandur said: Feels like everybody is full time on Havertz atm, and they plan to move on the next target after that. If all of those deals take as long as the Havertz one, we'll be done just in time for the 21/22 season then. Remember the window closes in October. Havertz, Reguilon, Dunk/Rice/White, and a GK can realistically be done. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekin 835 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Pizy said: Having just watched some Ben White on YouTube, the guy looks the business. Could be a great signing if Rice proves impossible. But as with the LB situation, I imagine we have to hurry up and sell or loan one of our CB's before a new one comes in. White is 182 cm from what I can see. Not exactly what we need when we already struggle in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Remember the window closes in October. Havertz, Reguilon, Dunk/Rice/White, and a GK can realistically be done. Yeah sure, i know. But FL sure is going to be desparate to get them done before the season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Remember the window closes in October. Havertz, Reguilon, Dunk/Rice/White, and a GK can realistically be done. my dream window Havertz (we have that in the budget) then Dunk Ginter or (cray time, José Giménez) Rice Reguilon or Telles (Theo is a bridge too far I truly think ) Predrag Rajkovic or Onana we manage to liquidate a shedload of the dregs, enough to make the numbers work, which, removing Havertz (as he is already budgeted for) means we have to come up with £200m to £225m in additional revenue to do the whole thing (very rough calculations) have at it even at bargain basement cut rate deals there is FAR more than £350m on this list Andreas Christensen (he has GOT to go and be upgraded upon, I would prefer both he and Zouma be sold, but that is probably not happening in one window unless we get 2 incredible buy deals tossed into our laps, which is so unlikely) I just do not see what Lamps sees in our 4 main CB's, they (and Kepa) make my tummy churn every game. Even Alonso has not done that for ages (I have been happy with his pay overall, except for that West Ham choke, arrrrffff). Ross Barkley (if we can get say £30m, even 35m (he is English and is only 26 and is in his prime) for him, he will never be worth more (well COVID maybe lowers that a bit, but not much) plus Bayer failed to get CL then a Barks sale plus Havertz buy is only around £45-55m or so net spend) Tiemoué Bakayoko Emerson Michy Batshuayi Davide Zappacosta Danny Drinkwater (SMDH) Jorginho (Juve need to cough up serious cash or work a swap deal involving de Ligt for Jorgi plus cash or maybe Emerson as I rate those 2 as being worth £70-80m-ish, although that is probably an pipe dream now that he has rebounded a bit the last 6 months) Abdul Rahman Baba Victor Moses Kenedy Marco van Ginkel Juan Familia-Castillo (as Ajax did not exercise their option to buy, or keep him and see if he can ever be a decent LB, which looks doubtful atm, based off my watching him in Holland) Nathan (sold for almost £3m) Charly Musonda Jr. Danilo Pantic (transferred on a free, BUT we get a cut of his next sale) Matt Miazga Lewis Baker Jamal Blackman Lucas Piazón Jake Clarke-Salter Izzy Brown Josh Grant (released) Richard Nartey (released) Luke McCormick Jacob Maddox We could sell Kepa (not likely, especially due to crazy wages for the next 5 years and his £72m transfer fee, ie. how much are we willing to lose of that overall) Zouma (sorry, he is shit too and as I am list two CB's purchased PLUS Rice, he needs to GO GO GO) Marcos Alonso (only if we buy two LB's which is not likely this window, I am oki with him as a the backup as he is curve ball option in certain types of games) N'Golo Kanté (only way I see him being sold is if we get Rice and a really HIGH offer comes in. Here is a reality check either way: he is injured far too often and his value has already plummeted and truly will plummet after this summer. It is complicated, and made further complicated by the fact he is NOWHERE near WC as an RMF in a 3 man MF, he simply is not that great there, other than an odd game here and there, Lampard jacked up the team forcing him back in too early) plus if Boga is sold, we get nice sell on fee Fernando, Muzchap and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Looking at things, Rice and GK should be the priorities. Werner, Kai etc are star players and exciting, but we need Rice (or someone similar) and GK who will be more important. Funny we have completed 2 big transfers and 3rd on the way, yet we have dont fuck all about the area that is the weakest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,948 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 My ideal rest of the summer: Havertz, Rice, Reguilon, Onana Onana and Reguilon should be fairly simple deals since we know they're for sale and we know generally that they're inexpensive. Rice will surely be a massive saga that will likely last well into the new season. Can see a situation where we bid for him, WH turn it down, and Rice then becomes unsettled and plays poorly until they eventually relent and sell him. kellzfresh, Strike and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 How tf can we even afford all these deals? We already bought Werner and Ziyech, Kai soon. Yet we are still "seriously" linked with GK, CB, DM, LB... Either the press is just throwing fake news or we just dont give a f about ffp anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 On Ben White: Dont think we should go for him. Think hes got good potential but looking very good in the championship is one thing, lets see how he gets on in the PL this season before spunking 40mn on him. A more experienced, top level CB who is in the 24-27 years age bracket would make more sense. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,948 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: How tf can we even afford all these deals? We already bought Werner and Ziyech, Kai soon. Yet we are still "seriously" linked with GK, CB, DM, LB... Either the press is just throwing fake news or we just dont give a f about ffp anymore Player sales will have to fund much of it. Werner, Ziyech, and Havertz is mostly funded by the Hazard, Morata, and Pasalic sales. If we can get some suckers to take Emerson, Bakayoko, Batshuayi, and Barkley off our hands that's another nice chunk of change. Plus, Willian and Pedro were on sizeable wages which are now off our books. And that's not even taking into account the budget that is already set aside for transfers. Strike, kellzfresh, Muzchap and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Pizy said: Player sales will have to fund much of it. Werner, Ziyech, and Havertz is mostly funded by the Hazard, Morata, and Pasalic sales. If we can get some suckers to take Emerson, Bakayoko, Batshuayi, and Barkley off our hands that's another nice chunk of change. Plus, Willian and Pedro were on sizeable wages which are now off our books. And that's not even taking into account the budget that is already set aside for transfers. Yes but Werner, Kai and Ziyech cost around 150m. Then we are linked with top GK like Oblak who costst 110m, CBs for 50m, Chilwell for 80m, Rice for whatever price WHu demands, it sure wont be cheap. All of these combined cost at least 300m on top of those 150m. Its obvious it will never happen, I just want to point out that it looks like we are seriously linked to these players, suggesting Lamps realy wants them. But its impossible we get all, so media is likely just taking advantage of the fact we are spending alot and we are shit defensively, hence we need reinforcements and they link us to all defenders out there, stating Lamps realy likes them. Its bunch of baloney. Even the not so expensive options like Onana for 30m, Reguilon for 30m, Rice for 60m and CB for lets say 50m total to whopping 170m. I just dont buy it we actualy want to bring in new GK, CB, LB and Rice. Money wise, it would be possible if we sold all of deadweight you said + Jorgi, but its just not happening in single summer IMO. And now Sarri is gone from Juve, they aint buying Jorgi anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, BlueLyon said: Yes but Werner, Kai and Ziyech cost around 150m. Then we are linked with top GK like Oblak who costst 110m, CBs for 50m, Chilwell for 80m, Rice for whatever price WHu demands, it sure wont be cheap. All of these combined cost at least 300m on top of those 150m. Its obvious it will never happen, I just want to point out that it looks like we are seriously linked to these players, suggesting Lamps realy wants them. But its impossible we get all, so media is likely just taking advantage of the fact we are spending alot and we are shit defensively, hence we need reinforcements and they link us to all defenders out there, stating Lamps realy likes them. Its bunch of baloney. Even the not so expensive options like Onana for 30m, Reguilon for 30m, Rice for 60m and CB for lets say 50m total to whopping 170m. I just dont buy it we actualy want to bring in new GK, CB, LB and Rice. Money wise, it would be possible if we sold all of deadweight you said + Jorgi, but its just not happening in single summer IMO. And now Sarri is gone from Juve, they aint buying Jorgi anyway. I think Rice is the CB that we are looking at. Don't think that would be inconceivable. Kai - 80m€ Werner - 50m€ Ziyech - 40m€ Reguilon - 25m€ Onana - 30m€ Rice - 70m€ Total 295/300m€ Outs - Morata - 56m€ Pasalic - 15m€ Nathan - 3m€ Bakayoko - 20m€ Barkley - 25m€ Michy - 20m€ Emerson - 20m€ Rudiger/zouma/AC - 30m€ Baker, brown, kenedy, Drinkwater, baba, zappacosta etc - 20m€ Total ~ 200/210m€ Given that we did not spend a single buck in last 2 Windows, our transfer budget should be around 100m€. Which makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styl1994 188 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 In a ideal world Sell/Loan Arrizabalaga sign Onana Move Caballero down to third choice sign Foster Loan Cummings Right Back fine Center Back no Elite option out there really don’t know what to do Left back sell Emerson sign Reguilón Center Midfield sell Jorginho, Barkley sign Rice, Havertz, might have to keep Gallagher if Loftus-Cheek keeps getting injured every five minutes. Wingers look for a decent winger to give us some extra cover with Willian leaving Striker completely fine with Werner, Abraham and Giroud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 7 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: On Ben White: Dont think we should go for him. Think hes got good potential but looking very good in the championship is one thing, lets see how he gets on in the PL this season before spunking 40mn on him. A more experienced, top level CB who is in the 24-27 years age bracket would make more sense. Yeah, it would be ideal if he stayed at Brighton for another year and get consistent top flight football OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/xavier-mbuyamba-new-van-dijk-heading-to-chelsea-after/epn4xlerozcx1mv06c3o0lsmu Xavier Mbuyamba heading to Chelsea after Barcelona exit. Source: Nizaar Kinsella, Goal kellzfresh, Muzchap, killer1257 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Strike said: https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/xavier-mbuyamba-new-van-dijk-heading-to-chelsea-after/epn4xlerozcx1mv06c3o0lsmu Xavier Mbuyamba heading to Chelsea after Barcelona exit. Source: Nizaar Kinsella, Goal Looks like an absolute tank. Huge, quick and good on the ball. Also appears like he can play right back as well albeit he would be wasted there. Can’t wait to see a player like him in the first team but there have been quite a few towering cbs in our development teams in the early 2010s and none made a breakthrough Muzchap and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 12 hours ago, BlueLyon said: How tf can we even afford all these deals? We already bought Werner and Ziyech, Kai soon. Yet we are still "seriously" linked with GK, CB, DM, LB... Either the press is just throwing fake news or we just dont give a f about ffp anymore We probably will make just one more signing possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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