Vegetable 830 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, robsblubot said: but the club and manager need the wins because the income does depend on some level of success (CL or not for ex) Yeah, people seem to not notice we are pretty surely missing on CL if we won't win the CL itself this year (good luck) and in immediate danger on missing out on Europe at all, and not realize it pretty much means no shiny new players for hundreds of millions for a longer while and the crisis we haven't seen for years. I wonder how TB wants to accomodate for what will be a huge blow for the club. The leak about selling HG players was somewhat of a stunt in Mount contract talks, but let's say Mount is sold, as well as RLC, James (he will surely love to miss on any international competition instead of going to Madrid), Chalo and Gallagher. So the super-duper new Chelsea is built on Potter and (with all due respect) Mudryk, neither having anything to do with Chelsea except being employed by as of now, finishing 12 and next season 10? That's what the hardcore cold-headed fans would love to see? I don't know whether to laugh or to cry then. Edited February 16, 2023 by Vegetable robsblubot and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 22 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: He cannot sell the club first 10 years. And why would you want him to do that? Guy is willing to spend big, put some competent people in job, ready to build new stadium... Cannot think of a better owner actually. Don't mind him 'Henrique', he's just the forum clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,283 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Vegetable said: Yeah, people seem to not notice we are pretty surely missing on CL if we won't win the CL itself this year (good luck) and in immediate danger on missing out on Europe at all, and not realize it pretty much means no shiny new players for hundreds of millions for a longer while and the crisis we haven't seen for years. I wonder how TB wants to accomodate for what will be a huge blow for the club. The leak about selling HG players was somewhat of a stunt in Mount contract talks, but let's say Mount is sold, as well as RLC, James (he will surely love to miss on any international competition instead of going to Madrid), Chalo and Gallagher. So the super-duper new Chelsea is built on Potter and (with all due respect) Mudryk, neither having anything to do with Chelsea except being employed by as of now, finishing 12 and next season 10? That's what the hardcore cold-headed fans would love to see? I don't know whether to laugh or to cry then. ofc reece will not be sold will be probably mount, gallegher and cho, plus pulisic, ziyech and auba Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Vegetable said: I wonder how TB wants to accomodate for what will be a huge blow for the club. The leak about selling HG players was somewhat of a stunt in Mount contract talks, but let's say Mount is sold, as well as RLC, James (he will surely love to miss on any international competition instead of going to Madrid), Chalo and Gallagher. So the super-duper new Chelsea is built on Potter and (with all due respect) Mudryk, neither having anything to do with Chelsea except being employed by as of now, finishing 12 and next season 10? That's what the hardcore cold-headed fans would love to see? I don't know whether to laugh or to cry then. So you want to keep average players just because they are home grown and nowhere near good enough? Why is James on the list, he just signed long term contract for big money and is clearly going nowhere. How is RLC still here is really amazing. Chalobah also not good enough, and hopefully will be replaced in the summer with actual academy talent and big prospect Colwill. Badiashile, Colwill, Silva and Fofana 4 CBs next season. KK played well last game and could be kept for squad depth. 4 CBs could be too risky for a season. So where does that leave Chalobah? Clearly last choice and if we can get like 25-30m it would be great. For him also it makes sense because I assume he wants to play. Same for Mount. Clearly losing a place to superior players and was never the answer. Also him not signing new contract is more down to him then Chelsea. Would consider keeping Gallagher for squad depth and homegrown status. Mount, Chalobah, RLC, CHO and Ampadu all leaving in the summer would be great business. That's way over 100m pounds and will help the club massively unlike any of those players on pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 7 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: So you want to keep average players just because they are home grown and nowhere near good enough? Basically, I'd want Chelsea to keep being Chelsea in some significant extent, not leave the logo and wipe everything else. Making some plastic monster straight off Football Manager is an option, especially given the money involved, but what is the point? Hope to see more of the impact like James and Mount (or even CHO for a while) did when entering the team. If all the academy is able to provide is at best squad players, it's not a good sign, no matter how expensive transfers we make. We complain how we lack leaders like Terry and Lampard, but they will not appear out of nowhere. And it's not like we can get rid of all the HG players and call it a day, you know, unless the Superleague is a thing. Also, I wouldn't be so positive that James is imprisoned here. He may be a true Chelsea man, but he has interest of the best clubs, if we miss out on Europe, Potter fails to impress even more and the "project" won't really click, he won't let his career be destroyed in a long term… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,283 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 even diogo costa or hazard or kanté stay with us when we stay out of ucl in 15/16 and even in 18/19 they have a contract. there is no easy to leave the club even kane and son don't leave spurs when they failed top4 even united last season keep bruno, sancho, varane and signed casemiro calm down a lit bit if would more worried if we manage to fail top4 consecutive seasons and not a singular season Vegetable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mário César said: if would more worried if we manage to fail top4 consecutive seasons and not a singular season Yeah, sure, I don't see the player exodus due to single miss put on Europe, but if it will cause as to do a garage sale this summer and next season won't change things over, then who knows what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,283 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 well, I read that TB want a 7 year deal to mount this type of contract will kill us in a long term contract lengh is insane and not worth it. would better deal with 4 or at least 5 years deal and not try to negotiate 7 years contract. it is to much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Selling the homegrown players that are/could be regular fixtures here would be a catastrophic mistake IMO. The likes of James, Chalobah, Broja and Mount are shining examples to the academy and I thought Boehly had wanted to sustain the academy influence in the squad also? I mean it took years and years for us to finally integrate academy players now people seem particularly desperate to see us sell Mason and Trevor who can definitely offer something here? Plus the current influx of players signed under 21 and selling academy/homegrown players like those isn’t going to really paint a positive picture for any of the young guys wanting to break through here either is it? We have to get the balance right. Edited February 17, 2023 by OneMoSalah Laylabelle and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Selling the homegrown players that are/could be regular fixtures here would be a catastrophic mistake IMO. The likes of James, Chalobah, Broja and Mount are shining examples to the academy and I thought Boehly had wanted to sustain the academy influence in the squad also? I mean it took years and years for us to finally integrate academy players now people seem particularly desperate to see us sell Mason and Trevor who can definitely offer something here? Plus the current influx of players signed under 21 and selling academy/homegrown players like those isn’t going to really paint a positive picture for any of the young guys wanting to break through here either is it? We have to get the balance right. I don't think we have any choice though, given the money we've spent and the way FFP works. Is there another way out? We have to create FFP profits and HG players is the only way to get it in the supply we need no? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Selling the homegrown players that are/could be regular fixtures here would be a catastrophic mistake IMO. The likes of James, Chalobah, Broja and Mount are shining examples to the academy and I thought Boehly had wanted to sustain the academy influence in the squad also? I mean it took years and years for us to finally integrate academy players now people seem particularly desperate to see us sell Mason and Trevor who can definitely offer something here? Plus the current influx of players signed under 21 and selling academy/homegrown players like those isn’t going to really paint a positive picture for any of the young guys wanting to break through here either is it? We have to get the balance right. It will be dumb to sell James. Chalobah I would like us to sell him although I'm not sure how much we get for him. Broja can't sell because of his injury. Must wait, and we don't know if he will be good when he comes back. Mount I want to stay but if he don't want to sign new contract we have no choice but to sell in the summer. Gallagher I'm torn, I would keep him in the summer if we can't get Mount to sign up new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,283 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 its nice to keep academy players if they are good enough reece will stay because he proved that he can play at highest level mount is not in this type of level, like gallegher abour chalobah it is a nice squad player but we have calwill and sign gusto for right back position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,283 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 this clown is destroying our club lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,483 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, TheHulk said: Would say there is more pressing concerns. But lets further mollycoddle these soft, spineless, half arsing (or certainly look it from their general performances and personality they’ve shown over the last 8-10 months), multi millionaires who already live a highly privileged and comfortable life with a chill out room for when they play shite. Because well, why not? I am actually done with Boehly. He seems to be completely clueless in all regards. It seems he wants to look at everything bar the actual problem. He can put everything and more in place but his refusal to act on the current manager is incredible. Then shit like this seems more and more tin pot, needless shite that has will do nothing - lets get them a Dunkin Donuts at Cobham whilst we are at it? Or a Starbucks? Or have Red Hot Chilli Peppers play there every second week? Fucking clueless. Edited February 24, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Would say there is more pressing concerns. But lets further mollycoddle these soft, spineless, half arsing (or certainly look it from their general performances and personality they’ve shown over the last 8-10 months), multi millionaires who already live a highly privileged and comfortable life with a chill out room for when they play shite. Because well, why not? I am actually done with Boehly. He seems to be completely clueless in all regards. It seems he wants to look at everything bar the actual problem. He can put everything and more in place but his refusal to act on the current manager is incredible. Then shit like this seems more and more tin pot, needless shite that has will do nothing - lets get them a Dunkin Donuts at Cobham whilst we are at it? Or a Starbucks? Or have Red Hot Chilli Peppers play there every second week? Fucking clueless. They are following the same plan they had with the Dodgers. They created spaces like this and spaces for player's families to be while they were training. Dodgers recruiting became much easier when the players would tell players being recruited how much their families loved it there. Norfolkblue1961 and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,483 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Would say there is more pressing concerns. But lets further mollycoddle these soft, spineless, half arsing (or certainly look it from their general performances and personality they’ve shown over the last 8-10 months), multi millionaires who already live a highly privileged and comfortable life with a chill out room for when they play shite. Because well, why not? I am actually done with Boehly. He seems to be completely clueless in all regards. It seems he wants to look at everything bar the actual problem. He can put everything and more in place but his refusal to act on the current manager is incredible. Then shit like this seems more and more tin pot, needless shite that has will do nothing - lets get them a Dunkin Donuts at Cobham whilst we are at it? Or a Starbucks? Or have Red Hot Chilli Peppers play there every second week? Fucking clueless. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2023/Chelsea-owner-todd-boehly-interested-in-acquiring-strasbourg/ February 24, 2023 L’Équipe report tonight that Chelsea owner Todd Boehly and his financial partners recently spoke with Strasbourg president Marc Keller, and are “very interested” in acquiring a 100% stake in the club. Keller, a former midfielder who has been in charge of the Alsatian club since 2012, recently had a meal with the Premier League club’s new American investors. Despite the team’s recent troubles – they find themselves in a relegation battle this campaign after finishing in 6th place last season – Boehly and partners are interested in taking on the financially stable club and growing it, notably by loaning players out to the Ligue 1 outfit. The consortium are also looking into investing in the German market. Strasbourg’s previous financial issues saw them liquidated and restart from the French fifth tier back in 2011, returning to professional football in 2016 with promotion to Ligue 2 and then sealing top flight football the campaign after. They have one Ligue 1 title to their name in their history. GFFN | Raphaël Jucobin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Strasbourg is beautiful city. Really enjoyed my time there. Also I find it weird how Boehly is stick to Chelsea all the time since he bought the club. I mean he has businesses in USA as well. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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