The Tuchel Thread

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

wtf was that. We lost that final the moment TT declared Kepa would start after the Arsenal fuck up. The only finals TT ever won was with hugely superior sides. BVB vs Frankfurt and PSG vs some farmers.

On equal terms he always botched the lineup and lost, twice vs depleted Bayern sides at that.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

Awful team selection.

[whats happening 1,525]

time for a sack. terrible manager.

[Jase 43,479]

We haven't done very well when we concede first in games under Tuchel...

D 1-1 Southampton
L 2-5 West Brom
L 0-1 Porto
W 2-1 Man City
L 0-1 Arsenal
L 0-1 Leicester

Can excuse the West Brom and Porto games because we went down to 10 men in one and we conceded like in the 93rd minute or something in the other. But the rest (apart from Man City)...

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

2 minutes ago, Jas said:

We haven't done very well when we concede first in games under Tuchel...

D 1-1 Southampton
L 2-5 West Brom
L 0-1 Porto
W 2-1 Man City
L 0-1 Arsenal
L 0-1 Leicester

Can excuse the West Brom and Porto games because we went down to 10 men in one and we conceded like in the 93rd minute or something in the other. But the rest (apart from Man City)...

It's always been like that with TT. Once things go wrong he gets impatient and nervous. Unable to influence the game anymore.His biggest challenge will be to get the morale up again.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

hace 6 minutos, whats happening dijo:

time for a sack. terrible manager.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 so it begins

 

Anyway. Hopefully Tuchel delivers some home truths in the dressing room. Aye Alonso was a questionable start but the front players did nothing and neither did the wingbacks. Looked beat in the second half before Leicester even scored. Finals are decided by small details. Questionable offside (looked like a ballhair was in it) and the handball for their goal although I would think it would be harsh to have given it either way but aye why did it take to around the 75th minute for us to start playing again? He will probably be harsh on himself as he was v Arsenal and West Brom but its now time to see if he goes for some of the players who were anonymous in attack. And if he does how they react. 

Edited May 15, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[Mário César 975]

The problem is not lose the final, but the line up that Tuchel choose. Nobody stars a final with Kepa and Alonso.

Ok, the goal its not Kepa fault, but just the presence of him and not Mendy is not the same to the team. Its psychological thing

[milka 3,346]

Thoughts on tuchel if we also lose the ucl final?

New deal or .......  ? 

Edited May 15, 2021 by milka

[Mário César 975]

the same happened agains Arsenal. Kepa just can't play again in this type of games. its impossible. 

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

Justo ahora, milka dijo:

Thoughts on tuchel if we also lose the ucl final?

New deal or ....... Sack ? 

I think its not going to change the fact he’s made a big impact in the last 4 months tbf.

He can argue the team is lacking consistency or clinical finishing, which it is and as well we could also argue that without him arguably we could have been a lot worse off than in the running for top 4 and having made 2 finals. 

[R2D2 368]

3 minutes ago, milka said:

Thoughts on tuchel if we also lose the ucl final?

New deal or .......  ? 

Wait until we see if we get Top 4 and avoid another December collapse after maybe.

Edited May 15, 2021 by R2D2

[DDA 9,690]

Even though Kepa done nothing wrong.. it just sends me wild to think TT has started him over our No1 GK in a final... 

Baffling. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, DDA said:

Even though Kepa done nothing wrong.. it just sends me wild to think TT has started him over our No1 GK in a final... 

Baffling. 

Not that we'll get a second chance but willing to wager that Mendy would have saved that Tielemans goal. Kepa did that silly hopping/skipping thing of his again at that attempted save and that split moment of him doing that could well have been difference between him saving that goal and not saving it. 

[DDA 9,690]

18 minutes ago, Jas said:

Not that we'll get a second chance but willing to wager that Mendy would have saved that Tielemans goal. Kepa did that silly hopping/skipping thing of his again at that attempted save and that split moment of him doing that could well have been difference between him saving that goal and not saving it. 

He probably would have saved it... which makes TTs deciision to pick Kepa even worse.

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

Funny thing is TT pulled the exact same stunt in the DFB Pokal 2017: He played his two leftbacks guerrero and schmelzer. The quicker one, Guerreiro played CB to cover Rebic. It also did not work. REbic scored. But BVB got lucky and got gifted a pen to win.

He tinkered massively with the lineup even then. Playing 0 traditional midfielders but a CB (Ginter) in mdifield and 3 attacking midfielders behind aubameyang. was a weird game.

[Jase 43,479]

19 minutes ago, DDA said:

He probably would have saved it... which makes TTs deciision to pick Kepa even worse.

Also worth remembering that Mendy is slightly taller than Kepa.

[Mário César 975]

28 minutes ago, Mana said:

Honestly, Kepa wasn't at fault for both of our conceded goals.

However we had been doing well, until Kepa started. The goals we had conceded, it could have been a different story under Mendy, especially with Tieleman's goal.

Kepa isn't good enough compared to Mendy. Doesn't make FECKING sense to play him right now.

He needs to be sell.

Look how many finals we lost in the last 10 years.

community shield 2013

supercup 2013

world cup 2013

community shield 2015

fa cup 2017

community shield 2017

community shield 2018

carling cup 2019

supercup 2019

fa cup 2019

fa cup 2020

jesus christ. whats going on????

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Mário César said:

He needs to be sell.

Look how many finals we lost in the last 10 years.

community shield 2013

supercup 2013

world cup 2013

community shield 2015

fa cup 2017

community shield 2017

community shield 2018

carling cup 2019

supercup 2019

fa cup 2019

fa cup 2020

jesus christ. whats going on????

Are we really counting the Community Shield? lol