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  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Kepa
      2
    • James
      1
    • Zouma
      1
    • Christensen
      0
    • Alonso
      0
    • Jorginho
      0
    • Kovacic
      0
    • Kante
      2
    • Werner
      8
    • Havertz
      0
    • Mount
      0
    • Tomori (sub)
      3
    • Abraham (sub)
      0
    • Barkley (sub)
      0


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Chat shit, get corrected.  

Wait did we got hammered 0-6 or something? I thought we played pretty OK until Christensens brainfart.  Playing 10 vs 11 against Liverpool with Kepa in goal and only lose by 0-2 is not the end of th

Ziyech, Pulisic, Chilwell, Silva, and Mendy to come in. I have full faith we will look a million miles better once these players come in. How can we not? I'm not going to slate Frank until he has

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5 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Well, then the real question is whether CHO and Havertz would have done better in lieu of Pedro/Willian and taken the game to Liverpool. And mind, Gilmour was having the game of his life against the Liverpool midfield in that game.

That lineup would have Havertz as the No.10 and Mount and CHO as the wingers. Of course, we don't know how that might have panned out but we would have likely given Liverpool more to think about than what we eventually put up.

7 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Might have to agree to disagree here, but I have my doubts whether we would have been able to replicate those tactics with the players we had today.

I think we would have been ripped to shreds, but that's my opinion.

I think playing defensively like we did was the right call.

We didn't exactly play on the front foot all game in that cup game. We were also playing on the break but with far more attacking intent and threat against them. What did we have today besides Werner and to an extent Havertz?

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1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I think Havertz might be 100% in his career from the spot.

Interesting.

Am hoping he settles in to the team soon enough, so that he can start moving up the pecking order.

Jorginho seems to have no plan B with penalties. Its always about placement. 

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7 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Jorginho is a big hit or miss for me in that department

He has missed only 2 penalties for us - one today and the other in the League Cup final penalty shootout. If anything, it's his style that maybe doesn't fill one with the greatest of confidence.

6 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Look's like he isn't Eden Hazard then.

sigh...miss having penalty takers like Lampard and Hazard. 

Willian was also pretty surefire from the spot.

Scoring 10 out of 14 penalties is hardly a bad record, is it? It's not like Lampard did not miss a few penalties in his career. Same goes with Hazard.

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

We didn't exactly play on the front foot all game in that cup game. We were also playing on the break but with far more attacking intent and threat against them. What did we have today besides Werner and to an extent Havertz?

No one really, and I think that was accepted from the beginning.

Yes we would have been more attacking with other lineups, but we would have leaked more goals. Would you have accepted that?

Some fans would have. Like @Tomo said, if its part of 'growing pains' then so be it.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

He has missed only 2 penalties for us - one today and the other in the League Cup final penalty shootout. If anything, it's his style that maybe doesn't fill one with the greatest of confidence.

Scoring 10 out of 14 penalties is hardly a bad record, is it? It's not like Lampard did not miss a few penalties in his career. Same goes with Hazard.

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Well Hazard has only missed 7 over several years.

Granted, its all relative. Would still love to see Werner given a chance at those. Instead of always relying on Jorginho. 

Would be interesting to see who takes up ownership if Jorginho's not in the team

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Just now, Blue Armour said:

Yes we would have been more attacking with other lineups, but we would have leaked more goals. Would you have accepted that?

That is just an assumption, not a guarantee.

1 minute ago, Blue Armour said:

Like @Tomo said, if its part of 'growing pains' then so be it.

Pretty sure Tomo meant we have a defined style of play and stick with it through thick and thin as opposed to chopping and changing the style of playing from one game to another. 

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

Pretty sure Tomo meant we have a defined style of play and stick with it through thick and thin as opposed to chopping and changing the style of playing from one game to another. 

Yeah, that's what I thought he said too.

I meant that if you're willing to take the same stance that he is, then I understand.

It just means that you're willing to sacrifice a few games/results along the way. 

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2 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

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Well Hazard has only missed 7 over several years.

Granted, its all relative. Would still love to see Werner given a chance at those. Instead of always relying on Jorginho. 

Would be interesting to see who takes up ownership if Jorginho's not in the team

Who is to say Werner won't score every penalty between now and the end of his career? :ph34r:

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2 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Yeah, that's what I thought he said too.

I meant that if you're willing to take the same stance that he is, then I understand.

It just means that you're willing to sacrifice a few games/results along the way. 

I don't disagree with Tomo's stance. I just didn't like how passive we were today. Am fine with playing on the counter against Liverpool but we gotta show a bit more ambition than we did and better execution than lumping balls to Havertz and hoping Werner do something on the break. It's not rocket science.

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

I don't disagree with Tomo's stance. I just didn't like how passive we were today. Am fine with playing on the counter against Liverpool but we gotta show a bit more ambition than we did and better execution than lumping balls to Havertz and hoping Werner do something on the break. It's not rocket science.

I too would like for us to show more ambition against the bigger teams, but just not with the players we had on show today.

I'm sure that will change when either one of Pulisic/Ziyech return to the starting 11.

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1 minute ago, Blue Armour said:

I too would like for us to show more ambition against the bigger teams, but just not with the players we had on show today.

I'm sure that will change when either one of Pulisic/Ziyech return to the starting 11.

But it's mostly the same players we had and competed well last season...oh for god sake, never mind...

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1 Kepa

2 Injury plague for last 2 years

3 DMF(Kante/Jorginho exits needed as well/on top of/the cause of)

4 Lamps' tactics/player selection/subs

FML

:(

at least LB should soon be fixed and Mendy hopefully sorts GKer (plus Thiago helps with CB's)

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

I don't disagree with Tomo's stance. I just didn't like how passive we were today. Am fine with playing on the counter against Liverpool but we gotta show a bit more ambition than we did and better execution than lumping balls to Havertz and hoping Werner do something on the break. It's not rocket science.

I think that's the biggest mistake Lampard did today. This game needed Giroud as the focal point to bang it long too and hold the ball up, and Werner to then drift around off of him.

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1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I think that's the biggest mistake Lampard did today. This game needed Giroud as the focal point to bang it long too and hold the ball up, and Werner to then drift around off of him.

It probably was against Brighton as well. We tried to do the same but with Loftus-Cheek instead on Monday.

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We have really become Liverpool's bitches in the league in the last 5 years or so, especially at home since 2014/15:

D 1-1
L 1-3
L 1-2
W 1-0
D 1-1
L 1-2
L 0-2

Our league record at Anfield is only marginally better during the same time period:

W 2-1
D 1-1
D 1-1
D 1-1
L 0-2
L 3-5

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4 hours ago, Jason said:

We have really become Liverpool's bitches in the league in the last 5 years or so, especially at home since 2014/15:

D 1-1
L 1-3
L 1-2
W 1-0
D 1-1
L 1-2
L 0-2

Our league record at Anfield is only marginally better during the same time period:

W 2-1
D 1-1
D 1-1
D 1-1
L 0-2
L 3-5

More precisely., Klopps bitches.

We have trouble securing results against his teams.

Even Kenny Dalglish seemed to have our number. And that goes even before the Abramovich era.

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