🇩🇪 Timo Werner

[NikkiCFC 8,320]

55 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Makes sense for Fabregas to make this comment.

If he were in the team right now, Werner's runs would probably result in 2x more chances

More chances but not more goals 😂

[Blue Armour 4,439]

9 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

More chances but not more goals 😂

Haha., I was being very specific when mentioning 'chances'😂

[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

Timo not called up for Germany.

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• Injured players like Borussia Dortmund’s Emre Can, RB Leipzig’s Lukas Klostermann, and Chelsea FC’s Timo Werner will also not get called up.

 

[King Kante 1,643]

52 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Timo not called up for Germany.

 

Good. 

[NikkiCFC 8,320]

Important goal after injury. He was also scoring before injury, so nice he continues. Puli was not good today so Timo should start with CHO and Ziyech against UTD. 

[maxlev 54]

14 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Important goal after injury. He was also scoring before injury, so nice he continues. Puli was not good today so Timo should start with CHO and Ziyech against UTD. 

Pulisic did very well running himself to the ground making Juv defenders with high speed. Yes he made one or two wrong decisions but his overall performance was good. On the other hand I also prefer Timo starting against Man utd.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Will not be here next summer if he doesn’t start performing. How many chances is he going to get, same with Ziyech.

Edited November 28, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

50 million for a ST who's best attribute is off the ball. 

 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

All our attackers are not good enough 

[Vesper 30,178]

30 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

All our attackers are not good enough 

here are the the AMF's and then forwards who are good enough

good luck pulling most and some are too old for the price

bold could be done possibly

 

AMF's (as this is a very short list)

    
Kevin De Bruyne
Christopher Nkunku   
Florian Wirtz
Bernardo Silva
Carlos Soler 
Jamal Musiala   
Dominik Szoboszlai 

 

 

Forwards

Kylian Mbappé    
Erling Haaland   
Harry Kane    
Jack Grealish    
Mohamed Salah    
Neymar    
Jadon Sancho    
Raheem Sterling    
Marcus Rashford   
Sadio Mané   
Heung-min Son    
Lautaro Martínez   
Lionel Messi   
João Félix   
Mikel Oyarzabal    
Federico Chiesa   
Phil Foden  
Bukayo Saka
Serge Gnabry  
Ansu Fati    (although injures may end his career as a WC player)
Victor Osimhen   
Gabriel Jesus  
Leroy Sané    (on fire this season)
Robert Lewandowski  
Mason Greenwood   
Ferran Torres  
Vinícius Júnior   
Dušan Vlahovic  
Paulo Dybala   
Antoine Griezmann   
Diogo Jota   
Hirving Lozano  
Cristiano Ronaldo   
Riyad Mahrez   
Alexander Isak
Ciro Immobile   
Jonathan David
 

[LAM09 7,054]

I honestly thought he would regain some sort of form in front of goal, but his decision making with/without the ball & his all round play as a 9 is more than an issue at this point.

If something doesn't change in the next few months, we have let him go when possible. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,074]

1 hour ago, Mana said:

I’m done with Werner. Sell his bloodclaut. He just can’t score. Useless. 
It’s like we spent 50m just for him to miss chances for us.

I will never understand why  a self reporting Chelsea fan wants to talk about a Chelsea player in this way. Whenever I feel a Chelsea player isn't good enough that's a cause for disappointment, not anger. If there is any anger it is only ever towards the person who made the recruitment decision, not the player.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

10 hours ago, LAM09 said:

If something doesn't change in the next few months, we have let him go when possible. 

Think it's a loss cause at this rate. That miss against United perfectly summed up his time with us. There will not be much space in this league so you will need to be good on the ball to succeed. 

 

[LAM09 7,054]

10 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Think it's a loss cause at this rate. That miss against United perfectly summed up his time with us. There will not be much space in this league so you will need to be good on the ball to succeed. 

 

It's looking that way. Our luck or lack of when it comes to CF's is something else.

[Vesper 30,178]

17 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I will never understand why  a self reporting Chelsea fan wants to talk about a Chelsea player in this way. Whenever I feel a Chelsea player isn't good enough that's a cause for disappointment, not anger. If there is any anger it is only ever towards the person who made the recruitment decision, not the player.

yes, I am becoming the same

I am especially puzzled at the hate Lukaku gets

Ziyech has massively impressed me with his better attitude lately

[Dan Lee 47]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

yes, I am becoming the same

I am especially puzzled at the hate Lukaku gets

Ziyech has massively impressed me with his better attitude lately

Agreed. I don't come here often because of the negativity. I am not sure whether people are real fans. 

[King Kante 1,643]

I don't hate Lukaku, but I hate how we went out and brought him/how a number of people were telling all and sundry that he has developed in Italy and was a new player. That clearly wasn't the case (I suspect they got carried away by looking at stats and some YouTube videos) and in fact he was the same limited player as he was at Utd. 

For me personally, the Lukaku transfer had all the hallmarks of a Summer 2017/Kepa transfer i.e. an average player, who probably won't even fit the clubs squad profile being brought for a massive fee/wage that we will be lumbered with for years' as no one else will take him on when he fails.

As I said, I don't hate him personally, however I just don't want him in the side as we are a better team without him. He does have his uses against the bottom feeders in the league, but apart from that we have no need for him.

[Superblue 6,372]

26 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I don't hate Lukaku, but I hate how we went out and brought him/how a number of people were telling all and sundry that he has developed in Italy and was a new player. That clearly wasn't the case (I suspect they got carried away by looking at stats and some YouTube videos) and in fact he was the same limited player as he was at Utd. 

For me personally, the Lukaku transfer had all the hallmarks of a Summer 2017/Kepa transfer i.e. an average player, who probably won't even fit the clubs squad profile being brought for a massive fee/wage that we will be lumbered with for years' as no one else will take him on when he fails.

As I said, I don't hate him personally, however I just don't want him in the side as we are a better team without him. He does have his uses against the bottom feeders in the league, but apart from that we have no need for him.

Lukaku will never fall into the Kepa category. I don't think there will ever be a worse signing when you break the world record for a keeper and he turns out to be a bust. 

At least with outfield players if things don't turn out how you'd hope they can still play a role within the squad. A second choice keeper, barring injuries, will be lucky to play half a dozen games a season.

I'm definitely not giving up on Lukaku though. I think he needs to adapt to the way we play compared to how Conte did at Inter. It might be a back 3 but that's where the comparisons stop between Tuchel and Conte. However I believe Tuchel will get really good mileage out of Lukaku. There's few players who haven't benefited from him since he's been here. Of course he has deficiencies to his game but he will score goals and if we're challenging for the title this season his presence up top could be the difference between 3 points and 1 point in some games.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,818]

I could be very wrong, I see how clinical Lukaku can be, and I see someone that could be successful in the PL if he increases his movement without the ball. Part of it too is we do not have players that get many though balls in to attacking players in the final third. I see Werner and his work rate off the ball is fantastic but he is not clinical in front of goal. I hope they both come good, I just think Lukaku has the better skill set for this league.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Lukaku looked like a changed player in Serie a because his athletic advantage was so much bigger there. He literally waltzed through entire teams with his power and pace which is much harder here. Also inter played with him as focal point. We play a lot less direct, more methodical. We either need to change that to use  him better or he needs to adapt. Still it was a crazy price to pay  for a 28 yo. But blame the board for this not the player. He is not worldclass striker but appears like a good lad. Most of the above also goes for Timo. The difference is that Werner additionally has mental problems. Ideally we should not have bought either but at times you have to take a gamble.