closed Man Utd 4-0 Chelsea

[Atomiswave 6,117]

4-0 stings like a motherfucker but I liked what I saw before the collapse, especially considering the injuries and obvious big holes to remedy. I swear we must return the favour when they come to SB. And lol to utd fans claiming maguire and wb being top5 in their positions. Deluded cunts.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Yeah if tammy puts that an inch right everyone's going nuts about him starting. It's 1 game. As always everyone will overreact like crazy.
Lampard has earned more trust than anyone and we played well for 60 mins. It will be a struggle this season but we knew that. Anyone who thought otherwise is delusional.

Chill let united have thier moment, as the scoreline paved over some big issues with them.

Only thing that's a bit shit is having to play pool straight after it. But we'll see. Leicester at home is key, get a win settle in and see what happens

[Strike 7,490]

8 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Abraham shouldn't have started. That single change could have seen us ahead at the break and we might be talking about a deserved victory rather than a shambolic display in the final 30 mins. 

 

Fine margins

 

 

Abraham had a decent game. Not too disappointed. Giroud or Bats would not make so many balls stick that Abraham managed to today. 

Needs to sharpen and also manage to turn defenders and have a run but he is the best we've got this season to lead the line. Batshuayi has had multiple chances and has come off as a clumsy striker with zero awareness. Why not give Tammy a run? What better time than this season anyway. Giroud is clearly the sub because he offers nothing in pressing

[Jase 43,479]

Had a number of good opportunities but didn't take them. Was the better side. Hit the woodwork twice. Committed defensive disasters (thanks a lot Zouma, Azpi). Two fouls in two of their goals (one a potential head injury). Deflection in their fourth. Ended up with a 4-0 loss.

Not sure what to make of today's game at all. Almost as flabbergasted as some of the horror shows from last season.

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Double

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Had a number of good opportunities but didn't take them. Was the better side.Committed defensive disasters (thanks a lot Zouma, Azpi). Two fouls in two of their goals (one a potential head injury). Deflection in their fourth. Ended up with a 4-0 loss.

Not sure what to make of today's game at all. Almost as flabbergasted as some of the horror shows from last season.

This is what you used to read on Arsenals forum 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

Name hasn't been brought up much, but how awful was Pedro yet again away to a top 6 side? He should honestly never be considered an option at this rate. Still mainly at fault for the first goal when he lost the ball in a dangerous area that led to a United counter attack. Lost the ball a good 5 or 6 times just holding onto it for too long, which I'm sure pissed Lampard off. 

We have a past it Pedro, and Willian, who was actually never good enough, and CHO and Pulisic who are unproven. 

No middle ground. 

[Strike 7,490]

Alarming to lose 4-0 but I am going to stay away from the overreaction on here.  Good pressing but also left open spaces in midfield for Pogba, Rashford, Martial to run at. Emerson, Kova, Barkley shut down the left side more or less but the right side concerns me. Pedro and Azpi struggled, and Jorgi on the right side of central midfield did not help. We need to tighten up for sure. Kante on the right will help.  

But anyone writing this season off will be in for a surprise I think. When Reece, Rudi, Kante, CHO, Pulisic are starting instead of Azpi, Zouma, Jorgi, Pedro and Barkley, there will be a different sort of energy in pressing and we will be much more solid. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Abraham shouldn't have started. That single change could have seen us ahead at the break and we might be talking about a deserved victory rather than a shambolic display in the final 30 mins. 

 

Fine margins

 

 

And it wasn’t just the lack k of scoring, but his overall play. 

12 minutes ago, the wes said:

I'm just gald Alonso didn't play the scoreline would have been bigger 

What a strange thing to say given the shoreline. Also considering alonso was our best player last time there.

9 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Abraham and Emerson should have scored today. Zouma should not have made that weird tackle and we clearly need Rüdiger back. I am not even a fan of Rüdiger, but at least he can pass the ball safely. Kante is back to his best position, which is good and he was not bad when he came on.

What I think really is shocking is that we have two big strikers with Tammy and Giroud and we have no players that can cross. We really need CHO and James. RLC is also very needed. Nobody was good enough for Pogba today and I think Kante and RLC would have made Pogba´s game more difficult

And that’s usually my main disagreement with with some opinions. Football does not give you any points for good play. It only counts goals, which makes that final third quality so important and expensive.

yes Emerson made good runs, but his shooting was poor and his crossing worse. Not a good game in my book. I consider alonso a technically far superior player, but he’s getting even slower, which makes me very pessimistic on that left back area going forward.

[Vesper 30,189]

summer 2020 we sure as fuck best be buying at least one (I want two, and we WILL have the quid to do it, easily, as long as we liquidate the rest of the dregs we have on the books, with hundreds of millions left over for stiker/winger/fullbacks, etc)

CB     

José María Giménez (Atletico Madrid)   

Ibrahima Konaté (RB Leipzig)   

Milan Skriniar (Inter Milan)    

Alessio Romagnoli (AC Milan)     

Marquinhos (PSG) 

Dayot Upamecano (RB Leipzig)

Raphaël Varane (Real Madrid)

Rúben Dias (Benfica)

 

Kalidou Koulibaly is too old next summer (29) for what Napoli will demand)  <<<< IF they offer a fair price (they wont), hell grab him as the 2nd buy

 

also, other options for the 2nd CB buy

 

Samuel Umtiti (Barcelona, if he has a rebound year)

Evan N'Dicka (Eintracht Frankfurt)

Nico Elvedi (Borussia Mönchengladbach)

Nikola Milenkovic (Fiorentina)

Jonathan Tah (Bayer Leverkusen)

Boubacar Kamara (Olympique Marseille)

Manuel Akanji (Borussia Dortmund)

Thilo Kehrer (PSG)

Matthias Ginter (Borussia Mönchengladbach)

Joachim Andersen (Lyon)

Dan Axel Zagadou (Borussia Dortmund)

Malang Sarr (OGC Nice)

Issa Diop (West Ham)

 

and finally (better than nothing for the 2nd)

Nathan Aké (Bournemouth, we have a £40m buyback option)

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Robchels said:

which makes me very pessimistic on that left back area going forward.

Our team is very unbalanced and too many weak points. How the Club has allowed us to get so bare footed is amazing in a bad way. Its gonna be a long ass season but hopefuly we will see progress. We need at least 250 NeXT summer. 

[Pizy 18,918]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Spot on from Frank. Glad to also see this same sentiment from almost all journalists and pundits. This was a super harsh score line that really flattered United.

Plenty to take away and be hopeful about.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Well at least we don't have any superstar player who we will be sorry for have to play in this team now.

[killer1257 3,282]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Abraham had a decent game. Not too disappointed. Giroud or Bats would not make so many balls stick that Abraham managed to today. 

Needs to sharpen and also manage to turn defenders and have a run but he is the best we've got this season to lead the line. Batshuayi has had multiple chances and has come off as a clumsy striker with zero awareness. Why not give Tammy a run? What better time than this season anyway. Giroud is clearly the sub because he offers nothing in pressing

The problem is that Chelsea Fans expect our striker to score every time. Even players like Drogba and Costa score eery time.

Abraham´s chance was not easy to score, but he made a pretty decent shot. Apart from that, his hold up play was good, expecially in the first half. There is not much that Abraham could have done because he did not ge that many good balls. We need good crossers for players like Giroud and Abraham. Azpi is not able to deliver those crosses..

All in all, I think that our offensive game was sometimes very promising, but we need to improve from the back. Zouma is a huge liability and Rüdiger needs to get fit as soon as possible. James should get a fair chance against Azpi. I hope that CHO and RLC will be back because we could need a good crosser like CHO.

 

[Jase 43,479]

Like others, I want to say that there are some positives to take from this match but we gotta make them count by picking up results in the coming games. If we don't, then hell is gonna break loose.

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5 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Spot on from Frank. Glad to also see this same sentiment from almost all journalists and pundits. This was a super harsh score line that really flattered United.

Plenty to take away and be hopeful about.

He said United were “clinical”, but overvalued our first half performance, which was not clinical at all.

i think it’s the right message to the young players and encouragement, but he likely knows better. Still weird why make a inexperienced lineup even greener with Tammy and mount.. and let me say I do see some pretty impressive things in mount.

disagree on Tammy above... his level of play was nowhere good enough.

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5 minutes ago, Jason said:

Like others, I want to say that there are some positives to take from this match but they will only count if we make them count by picking up results in the coming games. If we don't, then hell is gonna break loose.

That's it. This can't set the tone for the season. Needs to be a one off not a sign of things to come. 

 

[MichaelDance 552]

Well onwards and upwards I suppose. Next match Liverpool. All I can say now is we better beat United at home like we normally do. Beat them on our own turf.

[Pizy 18,918]

Not going to get any easier next couple of matches, really. Liverpool then a solid Leiceser side with Vardy who can (and usually does) torch us on the counter.

Hopefully Kante and Rüdiger are back for those.