Super Frank Thread

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

There's too many of you on here obviously don't understand fully the situation at CFC I keep saying it we are in transition, it's not going to happen overnight, there's going to be a lot more heartache and disappointment on the way, before things get better.

So you'd better gear yourself up now for the ride, i'm fed up already with some of you, it's get rid of this player get rid of that player, there was even one poster calling Billy Gilmour a c**t, fucking hell he came on for the final 20 minutes he's what 17 YO ffs i mean what was he supposed to do.

Now there's a call for Lamps to get the sack it might only be tongue in cheek but it's still there, 4 games into the season and there are those that want rid of him citing he's not up too the job.

I really don't know what some of you expect or expected, did you think we had a god given right after 4 games to up there with the best, well we are not and probably won't be.

So I ask you be patient it will come right I have faith in the lads and Lamps, but it's going to take time, there are those of you that expect Chelsea to beat the Norwich's (which we did) the the Sheffield United of this world and all other relegation fodder well that aint gonna happen we will struggle at some point in all games, certainly with the top teams and also the bottom teams.

I'm probably a voice in the wilderness but it's my feelings on the issue in Lamps and the lads I trust.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Even if the results go south the board sacking him be so stupid. They knew his experience and that was limited and knew he can't make drastic changes that may want to. Learning process... Just learning the hard way. We knew be a long season though we really shouldn't be 2-0 up and throw it away like that... 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

14 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Even if the results go south the board sacking him be so stupid. 

Lamps obviously has insurance for next season no matter if he finishes 7th or 11th... That's so obvious after what he did yesterday. 

[Jase 43,479]

12 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

12 hours ago, killer1257 said:

Tammy and Mount would get loaned out again. I can see that happening

I meant we should get Mourinho as our defensive coach!  

[Jase 43,479]

20 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Even if the results go south the board sacking him be so stupid. They knew his experience and that was limited and knew he can't make drastic changes that may want to. Learning process... Just learning the hard way. We knew be a long season though we really shouldn't be 2-0 up and throw it away like that... 

 

2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Lamps obviously has insurance for next season no matter if he finishes 7th or 11th... That's so obvious after what he did yesterday. 

I don't want to sit here and scream that Lampard should be our next manager for the next 10 years but if we keep on sacking managers like EVERY YEAR, we'll soon end up with the Alan Pardews and Sam Allardyces of this world as our manager.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

I don't want to sit here and scream that Lampard should be our next manager for the next 10 years but if we keep on sacking managers like EVERY YEAR, we'll soon end up with the Alan Pardews and Sam Allardyces of this world as our manager.

Exactly eventually you run out of options.. Guess could just go round in a circle. Start with Jose again or even Raneri. 

Nah hopefully he can have at least 3 seasons.. Maybe more. Make a change! Sacking although has helped us short term hasn't really long term and everyone has had different visions but no time to add to their vision so stuck with the rut.

[Vesper 30,085]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

I meant we should get Mourinho as our defensive coach!  

I am all in!

Good cop, BAD cop!

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

I dont mind the result or all the weird decisions bringing on Gillmour and shit. But what really got my red alert going was when Lamps said we should have gone for the 3-0 to put the game to bed. That was just a bad reading of the game..this was not one of those days were everything works for you and just demolish the opposition.  No it was a nervy low quality which our in form striker should have won for us. But as said in the match thread our game management was piss poor. Mourinho would have brought on Mikel and game over. We need to be able to do this. To have the option of just seeing an mediocre game out. There is no reason to keep the game open after a 2-0 lead.we have witnessed almost all kinds of fucking games up in within almost 5 games in the season. Obviously experienced teams or managers should have the edge in tight situations but this is just poor. With our defence even a 3-0 does not put the game to bed. Still Lamps talks about attacking better. We should work out our Defence first. I begin to think he has no real concept of defending apart from pressing. We really should seek some help tactically here. Oppositions always target exploiting Azpi with one twos and shit and it always works. The midfield does not offer enough protection for Zouma bc we got 0 DMs rn. The team is young, promising fun to watch but there needs to be some kind of professionalism to see these kinds of games out and  neither the manager nor the more experienced players are providing it.

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

I dont mind the result or all the weird decisions bringing on Gillmour and shit. But what really got my red alert going was when Lamps said we should have gone for the 3-0 to put the game to bed. That was just a bad reading of the game..this was not one of those days were everything works for you and just demolish the opposition.  No it was a nervy low quality which our in form striker should have won for us. But as said in the match thread our game management was piss poor. Mourinho would have brought on Mikel and game over. We need to be able to do this. To have the option of just seeing an mediocre game out. There is no reason to keep the game open after a 2-0 lead.we have witnessed almost all kinds of fucking games up in within almost 5 games in the season. Obviously experienced teams or managers should have the edge in tight situations but this is just poor. With our defence even a 3-0 does not put the game to bed. Still Lamps talks about attacking better. We should work out our Defence first. I begin to think he has no real concept of defending apart from pressing. We really should seek some help tactically here. Oppositions always target exploiting Azpi with one twos and shit and it always works. The midfield does not offer enough protection for Zouma bc we got 0 DMs rn. The team is young, promising fun to watch but there needs to be some kind of professionalism to see these kinds of games out and  neither the manager nor the more experienced players are providing it.

Last week, Lampard brought on an additional defender in Alonso to help see out the game at Norwich but didn't do that with Christensen yesterday. It's kinda bizarre really. 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

Last week, Lampard brought on an additional defender in Alonso to help see out the game at Norwich but didn't do that with Christensen yesterday. It's kinda bizarre really. 

Exactly. A small tactical decision like that could have helped us clinch the win. But he's being too naive.

We have been dominated for a whole 45mins in the 2nd half in every match we've played this season except against Norwich. That is a big problem and Lamps has refused to make a tweak to address this. I don't want to believe he's too stubborn to notice this, but it's beginning to bug me.

Why must we have a second half collapse every single match? Are the players just getting tired by halftime or is the opposition manager figuring out our tactics by halftime every game?

[Laylabelle 9,534]

13 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

Exactly. A small tactical decision like that could have helped us clinch the win. But he's being too naive.

We have been dominated for a whole 45mins in the 2nd half in every match we've played this season except against Norwich. That is a big problem and Lamps has refused to make a tweak to address this. I don't want to believe he's too stubborn to notice this, but it's beginning to bug me.

Why must we have a second half collapse every single match? Are the players just getting tired by halftime or is the opposition manager figuring out our tactics by halftime every game?

This. Plus its not just this season. Last time as well. The best 2nd half was the Europa final! Most the time we'd look sharp and then chaos for 45 minutes 

[Jase 43,479]

12 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

Exactly. A small tactical decision like that could have helped us clinch the win. But he's being too naive.

We have been dominated for a whole 45mins in the 2nd half in every match we've played this season except against Norwich. That is a big problem and Lamps has refused to make a tweak to address this. I don't want to believe he's too stubborn to notice this, but it's beginning to bug me.

Why must we have a second half collapse every single match? Are the players just getting tired by halftime or is the opposition manager figuring out our tactics by halftime every game?

Our second half problem is like a disease. Has happened far too often since last season. 

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

He's bound to mistakes just like the youngsters playing at the moment. Who cares really?! It's a season of transition at the end of which everybody will have learned more and be more experienced going into the next one, including Frank Lampard. His chat with Kovacic during the match yesterday showed me the atmosphere at the club is better than ever and that's the most important thing after some toxic seasons. 

There are two established clubs at the moment that happen to be some of the best in Europe, as well (City and Liverpool) and two others that have good squads to easily finish top four (Spurs and Arsenal). Do you think Chelsea can finish ahead of one of Spurs or Arsenal? With this squad and so many youngsters playing? I don't, so the bottom line is people should chill a bit and enjoy this season, top four is out of reach. 

It is the perfect season to lay the foundations for the future - Hudson-Odoi, Loftus-Cheek, Reece James, Mason Mount, Tammy Abraham, Tomori (hopefully others to come, too) - Chelsea through and through, guys that have this club in their blood, football is going nuts with all the crazy transfer amounts and greedy agents and money grabbing cunts like Neymar. 

This season will most probably end bad in terms of trophies and standings, but I am sure it'll benefit a lot in the long run should youngsters continue to play. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Kepa

James---Christensen---Rudiger----Emerson

Jorginho

Kante------RLC

Pedro-----------------------Mount

Tammy

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Kepa

James---Christensen---Rudiger----Emerson

Jorginho

Kante------RLC

Pedro-----------------------Mount

Tammy

i love your MF three.

Why is everyone so sure that when fit James will get the nod over Dave?

Not sure about the front three either.