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11 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Honestly, we should take the £60m we supposedly offered for Sandro/Van Dijk + the £40m we just received for Matic and offer Real Madrid £100m for Gareth Bale. In addition to the ~£60m we gave them for Morata we'll have fully funded their move for Mbappe. I think they'd seriously consider that amount. It's more than they paid for him and he's never looked truly comfortable there.

We'd get a world class player in his prime and another attacking player at Hazard's level which we desperately need. It would be a true statement of intent signing and would strike fear in all our rivals. It's time we showed the ambition that other elite sides do and take that next step up.

Imagine having a wide player on each side of Morata that can both score 15 goals per season as well as wreak havoc with their pace and skill. Our attack would be unstoppable in the PL and amongst the best in Europe.

he's more injured than fit...

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8 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

That sounds great in theory.

But in reality, Bale has already said multiple times that he would never ruin his history with Tottenham by moving to a rival. 

Eh, I highly doubt he'll be at Madrid much longer because they always get sick of their toys and want shiny new ones. Only PL clubs will be able to afford him and only ourselves and Man United could both afford him and immedietly have a place for him.

If we went in with a massive bid and spoke to Bale to make him feel like he's really wanted and valued I think he'd agree to come here. Make him feel like the main man rather than just another big name at Real Madrid.

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9 minutes ago, mccg said:

Carra expects Conte exit

Jamie Carragher says he'll be surprised if Antonio Conte is still the Chelsea manager in 12 months' time.

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10978829/carra-expects-conte-exit

I can see conte quitting chelsea and I don't blame him if he was too

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12 minutes ago, -Kaplan- said:

So if we sign VVD, we will have 6 CBs for 3 positions? 

(Cahill, Andreas, Luiz, Azpilicueta, Rudiger, VVD)

Would rather sign someone else. 2 WBs and a Midfielder. 

 

In theory Azpi and Ruddier could both be options at LWB/RWB too.

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49 minutes ago, mccg said:

Carra expects Conte exit

Jamie Carragher says he'll be surprised if Antonio Conte is still the Chelsea manager in 12 months' time.

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10978829/carra-expects-conte-exit

He really pisses me of, always saying bad things about us. He should plain openly say he hates us, thinks we are cunts and it's done, instead of sending sparks every few months...cunt

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I think there are two major reasons why the board makes the transfers.

1.) the transfers go along with Chelsea club and its idea, not the idea of manager. Because if the manager gets the sack, its possible his players are no longer useful for next manager etc. Instead we have board making decisions on players and we pick managers fitting those players.

2.) if Conte openly wants lets say Alex Sandro, what happens with Alonso? After having good season and now suddenly benched? Obviously the relationship would not be as good anymore. Or if Sandro or anyne else doesnt come, Alonso would then be in awkward situation, knowing Conte wanted to bench him, but now has no other option.

IMO its allright if the board makes decisions. But in our case, the board doesnt seem to be ambitious enough and find the weaknesses in this team that need improvement. Therefore they should listen to Conte, but either they dont or they are failing to bring targets that were picked. Either way, it points towards failure.

Ridiculous example but still, PSG had Draxler, Lucas, Pastore and Di Maria, yet they sign Neymar. Ambition. Improvement. United has Valencia, but they are keen on another RB. City has plenty of attackers, yet they added Bernardo Silva. We should not follow that footrprint of overloading the squad with big money players, but we should go the middle way, which improves our team in places that need more quality or quantity. It seems we are not doing it.

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6 minutes ago, The Chels said:

Doubt it. Conte is much more similar to Mourinho than people want to believe.

Either way he has to make do now, yeah he can go on about wanting more players but it look like we're  not going to be having a mass recruitment policy. He made the most out of scraps last year, albeit we were down 1 competition. The objectives remain the same I guess, top 4 and a decent run in the CL..

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1 hour ago, -Kaplan- said:

So if we sign VVD, we will have 6 CBs for 3 positions? 

(Cahill, Andreas, Luiz, Azpilicueta, Rudiger, VVD)

Would rather sign someone else. 2 WBs and a Midfielder. 

We are not signing vvd. 

The club will not do such thing. 

The more likely scenario is that Barcelona buy coutinho and then Liverpool splash the cash on vvd. 

Club moves like snail and this giving the opportunity to Liverpool to step in with big money. 

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1 hour ago, Chelsea? said:

Yet we're spending 50m on another CB when we have desperate needs elsewhere 

Are we? All I've seen is Van Djik handed in a transfer request. Any of us, Liverpool or City will now continuously be linked with him until he eventually signs for someone.. Let's see what the next 20 days brings us but I see no reason why we can't still finish top 4 with what we've got now. Depth is a major issue, but hell play the kids lol.

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1 hour ago, LDN Blue said:

Are we? All I've seen is Van Djik handed in a transfer request. Any of us, Liverpool or City will now continuously be linked with him until he eventually signs for someone.. Let's see what the next 20 days brings us but I see no reason why we can't still finish top 4 with what we've got now. Depth is a major issue, but hell play the kids lol.

The fact that we're interested is the problem. 

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On 06/08/2017 at 4:35 PM, Styles said:

It makes a massive difference when somebody who shouldn't even be in the starting 11 is made captain - solidifying his role in the team. That's unforgiveable. I genuinely want Conte out sooner rather than later just so we don't lose Christensen.

Antonio has demonstrated his potential to help this team. Andreas has not yet done that in my opinion. This leads me to conclude that it would be plain wrong to sacrifice the former for the latter.

Your concern about the captaincy only makes sense if you believe that Gary's status will influence Antonio's selection decisions. I don't. If Gaz is starting it'll be because Antonio thinks he's the best option, not because he's the club captain. Now, if Antonio making Gary skipper is evidence that the boss expects him to be a regular, then the captaincy itself makes no difference. If the manager thinks he's the best then Gaz will play, armband or no armband.

Although I don't share the widespread belief in the badness of Gary Cahill, I'm not one who accepts that football professionals automatically have a better understanding of the game than we fans do. In the end though someone has to decide who plays and that someone has to be the manager. We would all be outraged if the board was telling Antonio who to select but it would be no less outrageous if the head coach was taking his instructions from you or me. He's got to choose, and he's going to choose. I'm more comfortable with that than you seem you be.

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