The Conte Thread

[Unionjack 7,531]

9 hours ago, manpe said:

Surprising to see Luiz being the least involved.

But if you watch that footballl on monday show that stat list showed just how much Luiz had developed as a CD and given all the extra power,reliance,trust. (The soddin word is on the end of me tongue lol grrrr EDiT : RESPONSIBILITIES!!! ) So he stays in positin while Dave/Cahill can get more forward/. They were gushing about how good hes been under this system.

Something I just read really pleased me too about Roman.

How he followed them to Australia pre season, goes to watch training at Cobham and sits with Conte watching the films he shows the lads. How many owners care so much about the team that he wants to learn the system and plays. Love it.

I just wish I could have seen him when we pissed on Mou on his birthday. He gets so animated while hes watching, like hes kicking every ball. Ecvellent owner..

Htttp://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10641549/antonio-conte-says-chelsea-owner-roman-abramovich-wants-to-learn-about-football

Antonio Conte says Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich 'wants to learn about football'

I know everyones really excited and laying basking in the afterglow of winning.

But during the 1st halk of Southampton (just go back and read the thread) MANY of us on here were nervous/scared/deflamatory about how good the Saints were and how they were walking all over us.

As the stats have all shown over the games since the systems changed that the opposing teams have each had more posession than us, more passes. But we have been happy to allow this as theres much less shots on goal and we haven't once found it necessary to even get on the bus let alone park it!!

We gotta have more confidence in this system while the games on and have trust that they know what theyre doing. And theres gonna be times we lose so it dont mean we throw our toys out the pram saying we fuckin suck. Its football, shit happens.

Speaking of shit. God I'm looking forward to getting Spuds in a couple of weeks!!!

[BoyBlue96 990]

21 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

But if you watch that footballl on monday show that stat list showed just how much Luiz had developed as a CD and given all the extra power,reliance,trust. (The soddin word is on the end of me tongue lol grrrr) So he stays in positin while Dave/Cahill can get more forward/. They were gushing about how good hes been under this system.

Something I just read really pleased me too about Roman.

How he followed them to Australia pre season, goes to watch training at Cobham and sits with Conte watching the films he shows the lads. How many owners care so much about the team that he wants to learn the system and plays. Love it.

I just wish I could have seen him when we pissed on Mou on his birthday. He gets so animated while hes watching, like hes kicking every ball. Ecvellent owner..

Htttp://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10641549/antonio-conte-says-chelsea-owner-roman-abramovich-wants-to-learn-about-football

Antonio Conte says Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich 'wants to learn about football'

I know everyones really excited and laying basking in the afterglow of winning.

But during the 1st halk of Southampton (just go back and read the thread) MANY of us on here were nervous/scared/deflamatory about how good the Saints were and how they were walking all over us.

As the stats have all shown over the games since the systems changed that the opposing teams have each had more posession than us, more passes. But we have been happy to allow this as theres much less shots on goal and we haven't once found it necessary to even get on the bus let alone park it!!

We gotta have more confidence in this system while the games on and have trust that they know what theyre doing. And theres gonna be times we lose so it dont mean we throw our toys out the pram saying we fuckin suck. Its football, shit happens.

Speaking of shit. God I'm looking forward to getting Spuds in a couple of weeks!!!

Of course Roman wants to learn 'bout football. Guy showed he knows absolutely nothing about it and the process about team building when he sacked Carlo Ancelotti.

 

Oh about Spurs in the coming weeks: hope they and Arsene FC are going for a draw coming sunday and for us, win against Everton and also easily against Boro so the lads are going into the Spuds game with full confidence.

[Fernando 6,455]

2 hours ago, Unionjack said:

But if you watch that footballl on monday show that stat list showed just how much Luiz had developed as a CD and given all the extra power,reliance,trust. (The soddin word is on the end of me tongue lol grrrr) So he stays in positin while Dave/Cahill can get more forward/. They were gushing about how good hes been under this system.

Something I just read really pleased me too about Roman.

How he followed them to Australia pre season, goes to watch training at Cobham and sits with Conte watching the films he shows the lads. How many owners care so much about the team that he wants to learn the system and plays. Love it.

I just wish I could have seen him when we pissed on Mou on his birthday. He gets so animated while hes watching, like hes kicking every ball. Ecvellent owner..

Htttp://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10641549/antonio-conte-says-chelsea-owner-roman-abramovich-wants-to-learn-about-football

Antonio Conte says Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich 'wants to learn about football'

I know everyones really excited and laying basking in the afterglow of winning.

But during the 1st halk of Southampton (just go back and read the thread) MANY of us on here were nervous/scared/deflamatory about how good the Saints were and how they were walking all over us.

As the stats have all shown over the games since the systems changed that the opposing teams have each had more posession than us, more passes. But we have been happy to allow this as theres much less shots on goal and we haven't once found it necessary to even get on the bus let alone park it!!

We gotta have more confidence in this system while the games on and have trust that they know what theyre doing. And theres gonna be times we lose so it dont mean we throw our toys out the pram saying we fuckin suck. Its football, shit happens.

Speaking of shit. God I'm looking forward to getting Spuds in a couple of weeks!!!

There was something interesting that he said at the end of the video. 

Check  it out here:

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/premier-league/10641523/conte-explains-chelsea-demands

 

Saying how in Italy he would have other people making decisions, but here hes more responsible for that......Sounds like Buckenalo and company don't interfere as much as they do in Italy....

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

There was something interesting that he said at the end of the video. 

Check  it out here:

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/premier-league/10641523/conte-explains-chelsea-demands

 

Saying how in Italy he would have other people making decisions, but here hes more responsible for that......Sounds like Buckenalo and company don't interfere as much as they do in Italy....

Yeah noted that myself too.

I would dearly love to know how/who/when all transfer decisions were made coming and going tho. And for at least someone toi put their hands up just once in a while to own up for making the wrong decision.,

[Tomo 21,733]

3 hours ago, BoyBlue96 said:

Of course Roman wants to learn 'bout football. Guy showed he knows absolutely nothing about it and the process about team building when he sacked Carlo Ancelotti.

 

Oh about Spurs in the coming weeks: hope they and Arsene FC are going for a draw coming sunday and for us, win against Everton and also easily against Boro so the lads are going into the Spuds game with full confidence.

Ancelotti second season was woeful.

[BoyBlue96 990]

42 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Ancelotti second season was woeful.

He's still the best we ever had after José. That double was amazing and I'm certain he could've given us more if he stayed longer. Second season woeful? Yes, not all managers are like Sir Alex Ferguson who could do a title win 3 years in a row. 

But good that it happened in a way because if he wasn't sacked we wouldn't have gotten AVB and later on Di Matteo with the UCL win... 

[Tomo 21,733]

1 hour ago, BoyBlue96 said:

He's still the best we ever had after José. That double was amazing and I'm certain he could've given us more if he stayed longer. Second season woeful? Yes, not all managers are like Sir Alex Ferguson who could do a title win 3 years in a row. 

But good that it happened in a way because if he wasn't sacked we wouldn't have gotten AVB and later on Di Matteo with the UCL win... 

Actually id say that was Hiddink the first time, and I already feel more comfortable with Antonio on a tactical level than I ever did with Carlo.

[BoyBlue96 990]

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

Actually id say that was Hiddink the first time, and I already feel more comfortable with Antonio on a tactical level than I ever did with Carlo.

Yes, Guus did a good job first time! Sad he couldn't repeat the FA cup win last season

Would've been epic seeing him like this again

[Unionjack 7,531]

Going back a couple of games but I cant get tired of watching the w of them so different. I wish we could see them after the 4th eh!!!

 

 Can just imagine Mou saying "Is it finished yet?"

 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I found this nice insight to how we play the 3 at the back, including David Luiz role, wingbacks and hazards role. They also compare some differences between our 3-4-3 and Mancity using 3 centerbacks. Very insightful. 

 

[ZOS 580]

I wish we could improve on possession of the ball tbh

[Cosmin 2,484]

28 minutes ago, ZOS said:

I wish we could improve on possession of the ball tbh

Why? Our results improved as soon as our possesion dropped. The low possesion is not a bad thing, if you do it the way we are doing it now.

There was a time, during the previous seasons, when we didn't retain possesion and our playing style was ugly and boring. Can you say that Chelsea play ugly football now? No way. We look very strong and there are moments when we speed it up beautifully. The percentage is not as relevant as the quality of the time when you have the ball. The way we play now, sometimes you don't even notice that the opponent has it for a longer time than us. Because they don't do with it anything that comes even close to what we do with the ball during the shorter time that we have it. Look at the games against Man United and Soton. They had more possesion, but the great opportunities and actions were created by us.

My only wish is that we keep playing with the same discipline and wish for victory and, most importantly, we keep not using dirty tactics! Look at Costa, for Christ's sake! He looks like a lamb, so peaceful and quiet! 

[quickpassnmove 924]

On 10/24/2016 at 0:56 PM, akgw13 said:

I think we definitely need competition/backup for Alonso(im a big fan of how he has played), Baba maybe but if Conte wants to bring someone in I support that. Maybe someone who can play both RWB and LWB like De Sciglio

Another attacker/striker who can contribute goals from the right would be nice, Griezz has long been my dream but might be unattainable. Auba from dortmund i think could be absolutely deadly with our team, SO much speed and clinical finisher but he would be a backup plan if Costa isnt happy. 

Christensen, Luiz, Zouma, Cahill on the bench, could absolutely use another stud CB(preferably left footed)

A b2b as competition for Matic to keep him motivated also to have another option.

 

Conte has played ball and turned water into wine with our team (so far) Lets hope the board supports him fully in the market cause the Godfather is the real deal.

 

Agree, agree, agree. Dump the players of lower quality and get in some better defenders and CMs quickly. 

Trade a Willian for a better attacking player when he is found.

[Captain Ahmed 528]

1 minute ago, Mana said:

My gosh. This flew by me. I've forgotten how Costa is well-disciplined compared to the previous seasons. What has Conte done to him? (And I mean that in a good way).

D.Costa watches Gomorra

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

7 hours ago, Cosmin said:

Why? Our results improved as soon as our possesion dropped. The low possesion is not a bad thing, if you do it the way we are doing it now.

There was a time, during the previous seasons, when we didn't retain possesion and our playing style was ugly and boring. Can you say that Chelsea play ugly football now? No way. We look very strong and there are moments when we speed it up beautifully. The percentage is not as relevant as the quality of the time when you have the ball. The way we play now, sometimes you don't even notice that the opponent has it for a longer time than us. Because they don't do with it anything that comes even close to what we do with the ball during the shorter time that we have it. Look at the games against Man United and Soton. They had more possesion, but the great opportunities and actions were created by us.

My only wish is that we keep playing with the same discipline and wish for victory and, most importantly, we keep not using dirty tactics! Look at Costa, for Christ's sake! He looks like a lamb, so peaceful and quiet! 

 

Agree with all your points. 

Would also like to add, that if we kept possession and sought to dominate the opposition we would leave ourselves to be very exposed against teams. I mean just look at the Swansea match. It would also  mean players like Cahill, Luiz (whose been great for us but is always liable for a brain fart), and Matic (who again, has been much improved but may resort to his old poor play of dily dallying on the ball). 

I like how the 343 has stabilized our season so far, but it must be said we haven't been tested yet with pacy strikers who like to get on the end of long balls too much. Will be interesting to see how our back three deal with the sheer  power AND pace  of Lukaku and Bolasie. 

[DYC. 7,542]

ZOS is right. I don't care how good the results are right now, Chelsea's use of the ball has to improve. That doesn't mean aiming to keep 60%+ possession but to not give the ball away cheaply and pick moments to keep the ball. Failing to do so will eventually hurt you because it's quite tiring having to chase the ball and you can make mistakes. And I'm quite sure Conte knows that as well.

Conte did the right thing. Things weren't going well so he fixed the defence and the off the ball positioning. That's where it starts. Chelsea exude more confidence now and teams won't feel as confident of going at Chelsea. Now you start to improve the play on the ball.

Unless Conte is going down the Atletico route but I think a more controlled approach is needed to achieve sustained succes.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

36 minutes ago, DYC. said:

ZOS is right. I don't care how good the results are right now, Chelsea's use of the ball has to improve. That doesn't mean aiming to keep 60%+ possession but not give the ball away cheaply. Conte did the right thing. It will eventually hurt you because it's quite tiring having to chase the ball. And I'm quite sure Conte knows that as well.

Things weren't going well so he fixed the defence and the off the ball positioning. That's where it starts. Chelsea exude more confidence now and teams won't feel as confident of going at Chelsea. Now you start to improve the play on the ball.

Unless Conte is going down the Atletico route but I think a more controlled approach is needed to achieve sustained succes.

Replace Cahill with Zouma or Christensen, replace Pedro with a world class right winger and maybe replace Alonso with a Filipe Luis-type player and you will see how our possession play will magically improve. Also, I'm not sure whether Matic is the answer for the midfield. Sure, right now he's bossing it but he will always be that one legged Serbian with awkward first touch. He's no Gundogan or Verratti.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

40 minutes ago, !Hazard! said:

Replace Cahill with Zouma or Christensen, replace Pedro with a world class right winger and maybe replace Alonso with a Filipe Luis-type player and you will see how our possession play will magically improve. Also, I'm not sure whether Matic is the answer for the midfield. Sure, right now he's bossing it but he will always be that one legged Serbian with awkward first touch. He's no Gundogan or Verratti.

Horrible take that makes little sense. Instead of trying to replace 1/3 of our starting XI, why don't we work with what we have? That is what Conte, a proper manager is doing. I don't see Zouma working in our current system. Replace Alonso (why?) with "Filipe Luis-type player and you will see how our possession play will magically improve". What does that even mean? Incomprehensible drivel with zero depth of thought behind it.

Why don't we sign Aguero, Bonucci and Bale while we're at it? It's easy to say that right? Aside from the fact it's absolutely stupid and almost impossible to want so sign every top player that breathes (It's not Football Manager, you know), someones money is being spent I know you're entitled to your opinion, but sometimes it's better to actually have a well thought out comment. It just drastically lowers the quality of posts on here.