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Disagree. Player attachment is one thing but blatantly rejecting big offers for players like Ramires and Ivanovic etc is stupid. No harm considering them.

But I say nothing about Luiz or any of the other core players. Only players we can manage without

Hmm. Each one to their own then. I don't think it's stupid to keep a group of players who obviously have great team spirit together. I'd consider how it effects the group first before looking at the money.

Opposition fans have often called Ramires one of our best players. I really rate Ramires personally and I know the players at the club do too; I think he'd actually start for any club in the PL. It'd take more than £30m for me to sell him. Call me stupid but that's just me. Loyalty and team spirit is very important to me.

That's kinda my point though - any discussion about Luiz is based on potential. Now I think he'll fulfil that potential with the right coaching but it's still potential. He still needs to cut out the errors (he basically gave a goal away against Everton) and until he does that on a consistent basis then any big offer needs to be considered.

I don't see him leaving and I really like what he means to this club beyond his defending but he's one of those players who needs to make a step-up next year.

I seriously think he's already made that step up and proved to many this season that he'll be a vital player for this club over the next couple of years.

No defender goes a season without a few defensive mistakes. It happens. People are still focusing more on Luiz's few defensive mistakes than the good he's done. Short term memories - because of his mistake against Everton people have again resorted to calling him a defensive liability despite of him performing well at CB before that.

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Turn fans against him?, how long have you supported this club?, the 'fans' would back Mourinho regardless.

You clearly wasn't a fan of the club during his era, or.. you're about 12 years old. You could watch documentaries about his time here, but you won't be able to understand the 'feeling' of having Mourinho at the helm.

I have suffered all 7 years of Mikel's tenure.

You will clearly eat a box of Mourinho's turds as if they were hersheys chocolates, but not everyone is like you. I support the return of Mourinho. However, there is a limit to my tolerance. If you give him unlimited control he will leave us in the same misery as last time.

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Yes he WOULD have been a traitor had he gone to United, how many times do I have to explain this?, it's not a hard concept to grasp.

It's not 'jumping on the bandwagon', it's a fact that still stands.. hypothetically.

The point is that you looked utterly ridiculous, and people like to keep bringing it up. :lol:

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Hmm. Each one to their own then. I don't think it's stupid to keep a group of players who obviously have great team spirit together. I'd consider how it effects the group first before looking at the money.

Opposition fans have often called Ramires one of our best players. I really rate Ramires personally and I know the players at the club do too; I think he'd actually start for any club in the PL. It'd take more than £30m for me to sell him. Call me stupid but that's just me. Loyalty and team spirit is very important to me.

Yeah and I'd happily take 25mil for Ramires and replace him with a proper DM - de Rossi, Capoue, Gonalons or Matuidi

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Yeah and I'd happily take 25mil for Ramires and replace him with a proper DM - de Rossi, Capoue, Gonalons or Matuidi

We don't need to replace Ramires. We need to buy more midfielders to increase our depth/strength in that area. Ramires is one of the last players I would sell simply because he gives so much to the team.

We don't need to finance ourselves by selling a player. We've got enough money to bring quality in. That's how I look at it anyway.

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I have suffered all 7 years of Mikel's tenure.

You will clearly eat a box of Mourinho's turds as if they were hersheys chocolates, but not everyone is like you. I support the return of Mourinho. However, there is a limit to my tolerance. If you give him unlimited control he will leave us in the same misery as last time.

Win 3 FA Cups, a Premier League and a UCL with most of the players he either bought to the club or turned into the players they are today?? Hold on while i wipe away the tears..

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Yeah and I'd happily take 25mil for Ramires and replace him with a proper DM - de Rossi, Capoue, Gonalons or Matuidi

The thing is no-one will offer £25 million for Rami. On his day he's phenomenal, but he has days when he goes missing and enters 'headless chicken mode'. He's another player who could go either way under Mourinho who might be able to coach a bit more composure and confidence into him or he might just let him go like he did with Tiago.

The simple fact is that we don't yet have a spine to our team like we did in 2006 (Cech, Terry, Makelele, Lampard, Drogba). At best we've got Cech and Mata and then a few players who play in wider positions (Hazard, Cole...maybe Azpi). In my view that's what we need to rebuild which is why we need that big striker we can rely on, a midfield presence (long-term I see that being Chalobah but maybe it's Romeu or more likely a purchase) and that defensive rock. To me, Luiz is the player next to the defensive rock, the one who can bring it out of defence because he knows that other guy and the defensive midfielder will cover him.

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Not going to start a new thread about this in the transfer section because it's an odd one, but it looks like Rene Meulensteen could be on his way out of Old Trafford.

There's been a lot of speculation about who Jose could bring with him and we already have decent coaches here but this guy is very highly regarded and might be someone Jose is interested in working with. Interesting to see that United have lost Phelan, who will probably go into management, but also Eric Steele their goalkeeping coach. To me that last one is a weird one because goalkeeping coaches tend to build a strong rapport with the goalkeepers, in a way that's different from other coaches and players.

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Not going to start a new thread about this in the transfer section because it's an odd one, but it looks like Rene Meulensteen could be on his way out of Old Trafford.

There's been a lot of speculation about who Jose could bring with him and we already have decent coaches here but this guy is very highly regarded and might be someone Jose is interested in working with. Interesting to see that United have lost Phelan, who will probably go into management, but also Eric Steele their goalkeeping coach. To me that last one is a weird one because goalkeeping coaches tend to build a strong rapport with the goalkeepers, in a way that's different from other coaches and players.

Is there a rumour about him and Jose?

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