The Mourinho Thread

[Viper22 2,418]

I know what the point was and I agree with it. However, its something that should be done internally. Never externally.

You are Roman and you want to calm everyone down? Take your helicopter to Cobham, gather the staff and players and announce Jose is staying for good no matter what and the players dont have to listen to a single bs the media says. There, end of story. Absolutely no need to go public.

Fair enough. I guess it's just to stop the media speculation around José's job and to let us, the fans know that that is the case. You make a good point for keeping it internal though.

Either way, something drastic HAS to be done.

[Pizy 18,852]

Wow, it hasn't happened yet. If he isn't sacked after that then he won't be unless players start publicly speaking out against him.

[FabHazard 655]

The towel has been well and truly chucked in by our lot, they aren't bothered and they aren't playing for him. The dressing room is broken, the attitudes are out in full force and players having a pop at each other on the field.

Fucking mess.

I think most of the players are disappointed by their performance..in the second half they tried but that is not enough..They are mentally broken down and the result was painful for them.perhaps they want to be in isolation..that is why they probably did not go and appreciate the fans..but they should have shown respect to the fans.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

What did Mourinho do or say to them that caused all this disinterest in playing on the pitch? It was apparent right from pre-season.

Now that he has blasted his entire team with feelings of betrayal to the press, all good ties between them have been severed for good or for ill. But he will last the season as long as he drags the club away from the relgation zone.

This 'betrayal" malarkey is being over hyped.

So, he indicates that what had been worked on in training and preperation wasn't carried out on the pitch.......loads of managers have said similar in post match interviews. Cannot see what is wrong with saying something like that.

[Fernando 6,585]

People!

What kind of example we are setting here?

Lets say we just sacked Jose - our best manager in club history and probably in the world - players would be like ok i dont care for your tactics and demeanors so im dont give a fuck on the pitch and neither would mind getting relegated or care about supporters or damaging the club reputation but im still collecting the checks tho.

You saw what Hazard did, he simply didnt gave a shit that we needed points or the fact that we're sitting 16th in the table.

Sacking Jose would solve nothing but On the other hand selling some big ass players like Hazard would!

Absurdity, you got to look at what happened at real Madrid and then see what is happening here.

Mourinho has made this mess unto itself.

We could be forgiven of one time and real Madrid being crazy team. But second time?

It's like avb. Did bad here and then got a chance at Spurs and also showed how out of his depth he was.

No sorry my friend the past is the past. He used to be the best manager now he's just a shadow of his former self.

This is why I would love him gone.

But it's not what I want but what the clubs want. And I think they have already made their decision.

[sir_volrath 61]

He still isn't sacked yet??

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

i'l take anyone who can put out an acceptable line up, and have some kind of attacking strategy

Bielsa is available. He may not be great but I'd love to see his type of coaching in the EPL

[BlueLyon 9,359]

"It's hard. All last season I did phenomenal work and I brought them to a level that is more than they really are."

For this statement I have absolutely no words.

How can any manager say that is beyond me. If one has betrayed anyone its Mourinho and his little games about playing tall and experienced players and all the bullshit he said.

How about playing youth including RLC for who he said he will play, how about benching shit players and playing those who actualy perform. How about giving certain young players a chance instead of destroying their confidence. How about changing tactics that actualy work. How about stop bullshiting and complaining and instead work things out. Talk to players and not fucking around with substitutions and lineups.

Players are playing shit indeed but Mou is talking as if they are only problem. He is as much of problem as the players. Funny how when first crisis came he said that he is greatest chelsea manager ever and when second crisis came he said he is alone responsible for title last year. Everyone was important last year players and him. And same is this year.

By the look of things, we could soon lose quite a few top top players like Hazard and Matic and no one still knows what is going on. Mou says everything is ok for half year now. How the fuck is everything ok? We play like crap, players dont give two fucks in PL. Its not even the results. Its the approach.

Matic went from realy good game vs porto to realy shit one vs leicester for example. He just jogged yesterday not giving single fuck. Something is wrong, everyone can see that. Just clear that out. If players dont give fuck about PL anymore but only CL, then I dont understand why Mourinho doesnt field 11 players who actualy want to play in PL like Remy, Kenedy, RLC, Baba etc.

[manpe 10,861]

Your fascination with Metsaj's posts is becoming embarrasing. Let people have their opinions, the fact that you disagree doesn't make them false.

So I can't voice my disagreement? What is the forum for then?

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

"It's hard. All last season I did phenomenal work and I brought them to a level that is more than they really are."

For this statement I have absolutely no words.

How can any manager say that is beyond me.

You're right to be speechless but let's not forget it's Jose Mourinho after all.

Let's all take a moment to remember just how poor the likes of Matic, Fabregas and Costa were when they initially signed for us. Just how terrible they were in their first few months at the football club and how Mourinho then transformed them to world-beaters.

It's a shame we fail to appreciate how truly amazing they've played after they got to properly work with Mourinho and absorb his tactics. Clearly, the amazing difference Mourinho made in these 3 players is there for all to see, right?

[Stats 7,136]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10100602/jose-mourinhos-chelsea-position-unchanged-sky-sources

This is just bullshit. I think really and truly this time, it is a case of saving money for Abramovich. This is just too bad to think Mourinho can turn it around and the board knows it. Our top scorer in the league is Costa and own goals with only 3! That is unacceptable. Hazard still has no goals. If that is not a sign that the manager needs to go, then what is? I don't know how much longer I can continue to watch this farcical going on at the club and their persistence by Jose. We are 16th and hovering aboving the relegation zone. Just in what world do the board think he can turn it round? The players have lost him and he has lost the players.

Like I said before, more of a financial decision rather than a logical one.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

"It's hard. All last season I did phenomenal work and I brought them to a level that is more than they really are."

For this statement I have absolutely no words.

How can any manager say that is beyond me. .

C'mon....if you are going to use Mourinho's quotes to have a pop at him, at least have the respect and honesty to do it in full.

"Q: Is it hard for you watching some of those players, knowing they are champion players, knowing how good they can be and they're almost unrecognisable?

Mourinho: It's hard. All last season I did phenomenal work and brought them to a level that's not their level, which is more than they really are, OR this season we are doing so bad that some of the players - of course I am not saying all of them, I don't want to put them all in the same basket - but clearly for some of them, it is so difficult."

Although he or his supporters on here haven't much to defend, let's at least get quotes right before slating someone

The same goes for the 'betrayal" issue where he was even unsure if he had used the right word

"Question: Jose, some fight towards the end but overall obviously a difficult night, but what are your thoughts on it?

Mourinho: They deserved to win because they were better than us during a longer period of time. I think we were the best team for 20 to 25 minutes, maximum 30 minutes. They were the best team for one hour.

They were very consistent and focused. They didn't make any mistakes. They were aggressive with everybody playing high intensity, high tempo and with a great mentality. It was difficult for us and then we conceded two goals that are unacceptable to me because I know one of my best qualities is to read the game for my players.

It's to read the opponent and identify every detail about the opponent. These two goals, the movement of Vardy between the two central defenders, the cross with the left foot. Then Mahrez in the box one against one - I want one against two because I want the midfield player to close the best foot.

The two goals are very difficult to accept. It's a big frustration to accept because I feel like my work was betrayed, if that's the right word."

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10100602/jose-mourinhos-chelsea-position-unchanged-sky-sources

This is just bullshit. I think really and truly this time, it is a case of saving money for Abramovich. This is just too bad to think Mourinho can turn it around and the board knows it. Our top scorer in the league is Costa and own goals with only 3! That is unacceptable. Hazard still has no goals. If that is not a sign that the manager needs to go, then what is? I don't know how much longer I can continue to watch this farcical going on at the club and their persistence by Jose. We are 16th and hovering aboving the relegation zone. Just in what world do the board think he can turn it round? The players have lost him and he has lost the players.

Like I said before, more of a financial decision rather than a logical one.

One of the problems at Chelsea is that the important decisions are made at the whim of one man who isn't a football person to begin with. The manager comes out publicly and says his players have betrayed him. That alone should make his position as manager untenable. The fact that he's being dragged along and carries on is outrageous.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

The boss seems to be viewed here as incompetent and along for the ride rather than making conscious decisions.

If you were to listen to him in last night's post match PC and what he had to say other than using misquotes of what he said as a stick to beat him with it would be realised that the exact goals we conceded on we worked on in training; that was why he said 'betrayal' (I think he was hindered by a language barrier there) when his players had failed to listen to the instructions he had hammered in over training.

The reality is that attacking football is demanded but yet most of the players cannot string passes together; this is why Jose is not playing attacking football because we've not been good enough to do it. The most common passing combination was probably between John Terry and Zouma in the first half. He also, interestingly, said that he's picking players that we criticise because they perform so well in training. Acknowledged our goals problem, this is why he will buy in January if he possibly can.

The reality is that we simply don't have enough information to comprehensively blame one group. However as Carragher sad last night, Roman does and he'll have to make a decision on who to side with and there may well be some mass expulsions in the summer. If Roman tells Jose he has his backing and the player-manager relationship is broken then I agree with a previous poster that he will just play the youth.

Sometimes I honestly think those who do not agree with Mourinho have their rhetoric copied in, ready to post whenever we lose. Excalibur has not stopped posting since we lost. Fair enough I guess; but your view in the whole Chelsea fanbase is a minority one; if you read what's been said here you would think that the fans want to crucify him.

And yes, I blame the players almost solely for this crisis. None have been good enough other than Courtois, Begovic, Zzouma and Willian.

[Leif 6,006]

I feel sad that Jose is evidently no longer a great manager, it's like if Messi started playing like Torres. I feel more sad about this than frustrated at how we're doing in general. It's hard to feel angry towards Jose, it feels like he as a family member has passed on