The Mourinho Thread

[Spike 12,049]

Find that to be a bit of a nonsense, no disrespect. You're judging some of the players there by their current abilities and making assumptions that Guardiola will just toss them aside. For all we know, he might take those players in his stride and actually help them to get even better - technically, tactically, mentally etc.

I think some of those players are a little far gone to be improving technically or mentally. I don't see much change possible in Mikel, Ramires, Matic, Terry and Cahill. I think they are set in their ways by now. They could surely tweak their m.o but I don't think any manager could re-purpose them into something they aren't.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

mata had his fair share of good games, for us 13/14. palace , spurs , arsenal off the top of my head. I also remember him playing 2 spectacular passes, only for eto to mess up both. Jose just wasn't interested in him.

not how I remember it..... started off awfully versus Villa and Mourinho was right to sub him and apart from one or two decent moments in games didnt really improve. Seemed way off the pace compared to the others around him.

Can remember being at the Villa game and thinking what has happened to the clubs last years winner players player of the year

[Amblève. 4,995]

Spot on, but still you feel compelled to call someone who happens to like Willian or Zouma "Mourinho worshippers"?

I think it silly.

No. I call people who think that the current squad shouldn't be changed just because they "like" certain players blinded as Mourinho. If Guardiola came (which I don't think he will, but just for the sake of the argument) I'd be more comfortable in him choosing his players than in Mourinho doing anything significant with the current ones. If we can strengthen the squad why should anyone be "untouchable"? That's my only point.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

No. I call people who think that the current squad shouldn't be changed just because they "like" certain players blinded as Mourinho. If Guardiola came (which I don't think he will, but just for the sake of the argument) I'd be more comfortable in him choosing his players than in Mourinho doing anything significant with the current ones. If we can strengthen the squad why should anyone be "untouchable"? That's my only point.

So, are you a "Guardiola worshipper"?

Can you see the point i'm trying to make?

[Essien19 1,415]

Find that to be a bit of a nonsense, no disrespect. You're judging some of the players there by their current abilities and making assumptions that Guardiola will just toss them aside. For all we know, he might take those players in his stride and actually help them to get even better - technically, tactically, mentally etc.

That's your right and not a bad thing, otherwise we all would be "yes-man".

Yes, i have made assumptions, perhaps they are wrong, turning on the discussion isn't a bad thing.

Maybe Guardiola changes with his approach, who knows, but against Arsenal Bayern Munich made over 600 passes,

Arsenal around 200?

For such amounts, you need technical ability and with all due respect, can't see Zouma, Matic and maybe Azpilicueta doing it.

Yes, players can improve, but technically? I doubt it, sorry.

Guardiola benched Martinez, for him he isn't a midfielder anymore, now he has to play as a central back.

Yaya Toure had problems too, not everyone can adapt to that task.

I don't watch that much national competitions, but during the world cup 2014 Azpilicueta looked in my point of view really poor.

Not as bad as Lukaku for Belgian, but he wasn't up for participating in that style of play, he is better without the ball.

Klinsmann famously said that every day he will make most of his players better, that backfired pretty bad.

Making the players consistently better is difficult, i'm just cautious with such demands...

Mourinho is also trying to make his players better, last season he accomplished it, but now, he has got big problems.

In the long run he will get back, another assumptions by me, sorry.^^

I hope that you are right, but you have to come up with good counter arguments, otherwise we have to wait and see.

[bethos1 802]

It's only fair to make demands, when you are in the driver's seat....who decides who comes and goes?!

I don't think Jose Mourinho has the final say.

After the transfer of Papy Mourinho stated that he didn't know the player, it seems to me that Baba wasn't his idea too, i think that says it all.

That was one of the reasons why he parted ways with Chelsea 2007 (ask Robben, he didn't want him to get sold) and is one of the reasons why Guardiola is most likely to leave Bayern at the end of the season (i'm just the coach, can't make transfers and the club knows how i will decide)

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Do you think Mourinho enjoys this kind of shit that's going down here?!

Is he really so convinced of himself, that an academic and proven winner let his judgement clouds by emotions?

Is he asking himself every day in front of the mirror; how can i be the villain again?!

Surely most of the stuff he tells the media is utter garbage and he knows it too, a man who is able to say things like

(envy is the biggest tribute shadows can do to a man) in a foreign language for him isn't plain stupid!

Maybe it's time for a little trip...

I often eat an fried egg with spinach and vegetables, for getting that done i don't need new fancy ingredients, i don't have to run to the supermarket therefore i save time and most importantly i don't need a new playbook, sorry i mean cookbook.

Simply, the effort keeps within limits but the result is the same; 3 points, sorry i mean fat belly.

Theoretical assumption: i don't have a job and my girlfriend demands a spectacular meal because their family is going to be in town,

but she only gives me little pocket money, but i have to be a good boy and make the most of it, otherwise a cruel punishment is coming...

Should i stick by the stuff which i know or should i go guns blazing and risk it all?

Keeping in mind, that some of the ingredients can't keep up with the taste of the unaffordable ones if a take choice number 2.

Everyone is entitled to have a different opinion about that, for example my father would stick to the first, because he doesn't like to take risks which look like a suicide mission.

My mother seeks the risk, boring is not enough, even if the job would be done and now everything is in shambles because of number 2, lol.

The prices for some ingredients happen for a reason, without some basic quality, only a magician could make it work.

Who is in possession of a magic ward?!

I don't have a problem with Guardiola but instead of making Hojbjerg, Kimmich, Gaudinio great, he often chooses to use Alonso and so on.

Who did he harvested in about ~3 years?! I don't see any new ingredients from their home garden...

Klopp is one of the best coaches in business, but apart from flashes (using championship players like Kirch against Real Madrid, no disrespect meant) without class he can't do it consistently.

Long story short: Give Mourinho guys like Alaba, Stones, Varane (the list goes on) and the form will begin to take shape,

otherwise there will be times where it won't be pretty.

I can only speak for myself, but i like the differences in the style of play and the definition "proper football" is not catholic.^^

It's a specialty from Wenger to justify his constant failure by stating he is still playing proper attacking football for most of the time,

but not during the decisive moments.

No harm meant.

I'm not saying it's all Mourinho's fault but with the team that we have we should be able to play better than we have been playing and I'm not only talking about this season. And with proper football I don't mean play like Arsenal or like Bayern, etc... Is it too much to ask of Mourinho to keep us playing like we did in the first half of last season? The way we have been playing since January is imo not acceptable, sure winning is more important but come on we should expect more from our squad.

[Stats 7,142]

I still can't help my self to stop my anger at Mourinho for letting KDB go. What sort of ludicrous decision that has turned to be. I remember all the Belgians on here such as Stingray and others who were saying when he came back to us from his loan spell at Werder Bremen that he was going to be a star for us. And he let him go ffs. So fucking deluded, especially when you consider the fact that the man he put faith in as his no.10 at the time, he seems to have lost trust in him now :rant:

[couris 232]

Maureen has managed to make Mata, KDB, Hazard, Oscar look like shit. Legend Maureen.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Maureen has managed to make Mata, KDB, Hazard, Oscar look like shit. Legend Maureen.

KDB is embarrassing him badly atm. Imagine the egg on his face if he scores against us this season.

[Clockwork 1,794]

KDB is embarrassing him badly atm. Imagine the egg on his face if he scores against us this season.

You think Mou will survive until end of the season?

[Shaan 263]

Maureen has managed to make Mata, KDB, Hazard, Oscar look like shit. Legend Maureen.

dont forget salah,schrulle, cuadrada.. and most likely pedro :ph34r2:

[Essien19 1,415]

I'm not saying it's all Mourinho's fault but with the team that we have we should be able to play better than we have been playing and I'm not only talking about this season. And with proper football I don't mean play like Arsenal or like Bayern, etc... Is it too much to ask of Mourinho to keep us playing like we did in the first half of last season? The way we have been playing since January is imo not acceptable, sure winning is more important but come on we should expect more from our squad.

We got battered by Spurs last year, maybe that was the turning point for the tactics last season, if i remember correctly.

Overall the play of style wasn't pretty but even the second leg against PSG, we almost made progress, lost it because of defending.

Is it the right way?!

I prefer a different style, way too reactive, "whoever has the ball is going to make a mistake", having around ~30% of the ball is debatable.

We have experienced a bad start to the campaign, the next game we kick-start the season, that's a vicious circle, absolutely deadly.

Difficult task, but better times will come.

[DDA 9,929]

Is Jose single handedly destroying us with each transfer window..

We were meant to be building for the future.

Jose only cares about his own success not the clubs.

This is where Jose differs to Sir Alex Ferguson.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Is Jose single handedly destroying us with each transfer window..

We were meant to be building for the future.

Jose only cares about his own success not the clubs.

This is where Jose differs to Sir Alex Ferguson.

Yes, buying Zouma, giving chances to RLC, buying Matic, buying Diego, buying Willian has destroyed us

Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. Take your fucking blinkers off and look around you.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

The "sold our future for a league title" has to be one of the funniest i've ever read
I ain't even mad. The drama levels are on a high level.