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He played a football they didn't want but they stuck with him - for how long? 2 months? thanks. If you don't want pragmatic football, then don't hire Jose but if you've hired him then back him.

Falcao, Pedro, Stones? No he wanted a midfielder and a defender, the reported names were Marquinhos/Stones and Pogba, Pat Nevin said 6 players so probably there are also names that were under the radar.

they stuck with him for 2.5 years. Every manager has a plan to buy 100 players yearly, it's the board's decision if they can do it or not. But he certainly should've done better than he did. Jose fanboys, similar to Torres fanboys will always blame everyone else. But you have to realize the board pretty much scrapped our initial plan of going young (Mata, Eden, KDB, Lukaku, and the academy) and just complied with Jose's way for 3 years.

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I was one of his biggest defenders here.

But I took time to think about it in the last few days, and i think that loving him grew harder and harder by the day...

He, the players and the board let the fans down, he paid the price.

They might have performed less than they should have, I still don't believe a professionnal football player is ready to be relegated just because he doesn't get along with the manager anymore.

But could the players have been as down mentally as they were this season if the atmosphere wasn't as toxic ? I don't think so..

I'm really in a terrible place now between loving the guy I defended for years and admitting the truth, which i am, gradually.

So I hope he goes to United and makes it easier for all of us, bring it on.

I'm a firm believer that Jose was let go not because of results but more so because he's fallen out with Chelsea's brightest star, Eden Hazard. Long gone are the days where a manager can walk into any dressing room and be the big personality that who everyone panders to and tries to please. Right now its all about image/naming rights and who can make viewers watch us play.

Jose fell out with players before and the club backed him, as soon as it was Hazard who was unsettled they had no choice than to fire the coach. I really hope for his sake Hazard has a cracking second half of the season because if he continues on his current form he will receive the full brunt of Jose 'wrongful' dismissal.

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After this season pass, I'm so sure that this season will be a very good case to everyone in the football business and also every football fans, Both in good and bad ways.

" You hear only what you want to hear " someone in this thread was post this speech and still my all time favorite one.

Now in this mess I just hope

- Players prove them self that they are worth to wear blue shirt.

- Board learn from every detail of their action and start to build more royalty staffs and squads

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So I hope he goes to United and makes it easier for all of us, bring it on.

I disagree about the effect he'll have at United, but I guess I can only say I hope you're right. The quality of Mourinho, to me, is undisputed. If he's allowed control at United, he'll take them far, imo.

Again, hope I'm wrong.

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Net spending doesn't tell the whole story though.

Pedro 27 million

Rahman 20 million

Begovic 11 million

Costa 38 million

Fabregas 33 million

Cuadrado 31 million

Luis 20 million

Remy 13,2 million

Willian 35.5 million

Matic 25 million

Schurrle 22 million

Salah 16.5 million

Zouma 14.6 million

That's 13 players and a combined investment of 306.8 million euros over 5 transferwindows.

Our net spend is so low because we had a number of talented, high value players at the club that didn't fit Mourinho's system.(Mata, De Bruyne, Luiz, Lukaku)

So we sold them to buy players that did fit his system.

Not true. First, CHelsea has a structural deficit... CHelsea had to sell players... at least 1 great player every season to comply with the FFP. That's a fact... It could have been KdB, Lukaku, David Luiz... or Hazard... but at least one great player every season.

The right value to analise it's the net value. If you have David Luiz and you sell him to buy Jones you have 1 good CB. If you buy Jones and keep Luiz you have 2 good CB. I think you don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that the important value is the net value.

For example PSG has 3 WC center backs... CHelsea can't do it. Teams with a lot of money like Man City, United, Real, Barca, PSG can have 2 or 3 great players in each position, and Chelsea can't .

We will see what can do Chelsea in the next seasons agains Manchester City with Guardiola, Man United with Mourinho, etc.

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The headline doesn't reflect what Terry actually said. He basically said in football when things go wrong a club just don't sack all players, its easier and the rational thing to do to fire the manager when everything goes wrong.

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I disagree about the effect he'll have at United, but I guess I can only say I hope you're right. The quality of Mourinho, to me, is undisputed. If he's allowed control at United, he'll take them far, imo.

Again, hope I'm wrong.

It depends whats your concept of "far". Mourinho will never emulate SAF success and thats for sure, perhaps he will do better than LVG, but if Guardiola really comes to City next season I don't see United winning anything relevant in the next 3 years.
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Put money on Jose Mourinho to be Arsenal or Manchester United Manager. Jose will be manager of MUFC before we play them next or join Arsenal at the end of this season. Jose would probably want to stay in London. Because London is better than Manchester. plus I hate the arsewipes that love or worship a manager more than a club. Do not love or worship something or somebody because that breaks the first commandment of the ten commandments.

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I disagree about the effect he'll have at United, but I guess I can only say I hope you're right. The quality of Mourinho, to me, is undisputed. If he's allowed control at United, he'll take them far, imo.

Again, hope I'm wrong.

I was speaking about the dilemma we are still facing as Chelsea fans atm.

Not a single doubt he'll do just fine there, but if he does coach United, the love story is over and we're all against him now aren't we ?

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