The Mourinho Thread

[Special Juan 28,141]

Funny you should mention Man City, see they smashed another 3 in last night again. Dzeko was clinical

[Mouri_Matic 560]

According to my latest he gets 10.2m per year. Never mind, how much. Roman is worth 12 billions & 40m to ship him out is peanuts. I doubt he will hesitate to see his Chelsea playing park the bus football.

That is not the point though, of course Roman can sack him in the next hour and move on, but his compensation WILL EFFECT THE CLUB FINANCIALLY. That is the thing, otherwise we would have signed Cavani, Marquinhos and all of those players in the summer no problem. With FFP now we are limited. I agree though, if he insists on parking the bus especially with the attacking players we have, then he really has to go and there won't be much tear when Roman decide fuck it, enough is enough.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Funny you should mention Man City, see they smashed another 3 in last night again. Dzeko was clinical

And he is their 3rd striker => facepalm.

[Special Juan 28,141]

And he is their 3rd striker => facepalm.

Now that my friend is the difference.

[bushman 2,043]

Would we all still be happy if he insists on using parking the bus tactic every match? Yeah we will eventually win most of our game against but do we really want to see that?

Why can't we play like Man City? like Madrid? like Barca? like Dortmund and Bayern? hell even like Arsenal, Everton and Liverpool atm

We got better players than a few of them, why can't we play like them? Or is attack not possible for Jose?

Well, at least I do not. According to the latest KDB played his last game for Chelsea. So here we go.The wheels are turning.

[Las7 951]

Even if that's the case....he didn't buy a striker in the summer....people need to start getting over their jose fanboy attitude and see that it's his fault! the SAME players were scoring fine last season under Rafa!

Mata, Hazard , Oscar, Lampard were all on double figures , Even Torres had double figures by this point!!!!

So they players haven't changed , the manager has them trying to do extra responsibilities , that they don't really need to do , and therefore the attacking part of the game is suffering.

Let me remind you the First five months under Rafa

Lost to United; West Brom; West Ham; QPR; Newcastle; City; Southhampton; Steaua; Swansea(in the Cup); Corinthians(Final in the CWC)

Drew with Swansea(EPL); Liverpool(EPL); Man City(EPL); Fulham(EPL); Southhampton(EPL); Reading(EPL); Sparta(EL); Brendford(FA Cup);

He started getting better results towards the end of the season but his record in his first 5 months was far worse than Jose's

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Now that my friend is the difference.

Their 2nd team beat Bayern at their own backyard as well, but even Arsenal did :ph34r: so that mean Bayern must be shit

Well, at least I do not. According to the latest KDB played his last game for Chelsea. So here we go.The wheels are turning.

Me too, to be fair whoever the manager is Kevin would have to be sold anyway as soon as Schurrle and Willian arrived. Just too much

[bushman 2,043]

That is not the point though, of course Roman can sack him in the next hour and move on, but his compensation WILL EFFECT THE CLUB FINANCIALLY. That is the thing, otherwise we would have signed Cavani, Marquinhos and all of those players in the summer no problem. With FFP now we are limited. I agree though, if he insists on parking the bus especially with the attacking players we have, then he really has to go and there won't be much tear when Roman decide fuck it, enough is enough.

I am aware of FFP. Just keep in mind. Roman is no ordinary Joe. He will find ways of avoiding FFP. This guy is 45 year old & billionaire. He knows how to do a bit of monkey business, trust me.Them Russians are pretty good at it.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Would we all still be happy if he insists on using parking the bus tactic every match? Yeah we will eventually win most of our game against but do we really want to see that?

Why can't we play like Man City? like Madrid? like Barca? like Dortmund and Bayern? hell even like Arsenal, Everton and Liverpool atm

We got better players than a few of them, why can't we play like them? Or is attack not possible for Jose?

First of all, all the mentioned ones have a striker in their team.

Because our key players have not been playing together long enough to develop an understanding required for such an offensive style. Jose knows this and he is working on it. If you couldn't see our high pressing last night, then my friend we have nothing to talk about.

City had an incredible squad last season but their playing style was no better than ours right now, hell we were brilliant under Robbie in some games. Both Bayern and Dortmund took their time to implement new players into their sistem. Remember we changed half of the team a year ago ? They've been coached by three different guys in that period.

Its a proccess, but is there a better manager than Jose to be in charge of it ?

Lets just support our Special One.

[bushman 2,043]

Another just in. Fredy is ready to fly to London, boys. DM role = we are parking the buses.

[thekid9 418]

Don't get me wrong , IF he gets the players he needs, and we get back to being invincible like 04/05 etc and win the title with 1-0 i won't complain ...but right now, he's still trying to get 1-0 2-0 wins , but unfortunately we can't defend for shit! so it's not the answer right now! GO ATTACK AND SCORE!

[Special Juan 28,141]

We do attack, we just can't score.

[thekid9 418]

We do attack, we just can't score.

Yes, i think because he is making the three AM's do to much defensive work , that it's effecting them going forward! they were banging in the goals last season.

[bushman 2,043]

I too tried to score the other day, but I went home with the hard on. Oh well, some you score & ...just like my bombastic Chelsea strikers.

[Tomo 21,751]

Even if that's the case....he didn't buy a striker in the summer....people need to start getting over their jose fanboy attitude and see that it's his fault! the SAME players were scoring fine last season under Rafa!

Mata, Hazard , Oscar, Lampard were all on double figures , Even Torres had double figures by this point!!!!

This time last year Oscar had 5, this season he has 6.

This time last year Hazard had 4, this season he has 8.

This time last year Lampard had 3, this season he has 5.

This time last year Torres had 10, this season he has 6, last season he played every game to this point, this year he has been sharing with two others.

The only player you mentioned significantly worse off at this point compared to last season is Mata. Oscar, Hazard and Lampard are better off, and i bet Torres goal per minute ratio is better compared to last year.

[edetarod 2,155]

our football has been brutal this season

but it's ok, cause Jose is one of us

[Barbara 15,149]

Money is key to our success. I wish it wasn't like that, but it is.

We need quality players in key positions and we're probably going to need to buy them. There's a reason there's a whole section dedicated to transfers on every single football forum.

So we shouldn't use young players and we shouldn't talk so much about money. Where are we getting these new players from then?

Is there a part of Stamford Bridge they we've all collectively forgotten about which contains world-class footballers. Would you like me to check in the toilet stalls next time I go, or maybe put up a few posters to raise awareness or this careless mistake?

Because you'll never win anything with kids (despite us having plenty of experience throughout the squad).

So from moaning about us talking about money and not relying on inexperienced youths, you actually concede that keeping a 19 year old striker who could cost up to £18 million 'is a plan'?

We should have gotten someone else....so in this case money was the key and we should've bought a new one?

You didn't understand me. I think there's always overreaction. It's one thing to say we need a couple of key players - whether they come from the youth or we sign new - it's other thing to say Cole, Lamps, Iva, Cahill, Luiz, Mikel, Essien, Etoo, Cech, Torres, Ba are all trash. Some of them are needed. I think we have a chronic problem with strikers, but wanting to offload all those players? Check previous posts here and in the match thread and you'll see all those names mentioned there. Some added Mata and KdB too. All of which we should get rid of... I'm like Do people actually believe we can simply replace 7-8 players and it'll work? hence why I said it seems like a videogame thing...

I also said there were a lot of relevant points in both 'sides' when it comes to Mourinho and the board. I'll mention a few to make it clear. We need an additional CM, if they want to loan a guy, promote someone from you or just sign someone, I don't care. The plan was to have van Ginkel to start taking responsibilities. It failed. our attack force is laughable. We need a reliable striker to pay off the amazing AMs we have. That's about it imo. We could use another squad member in defense, but it's not that alarming imo... Other relevant points: Mourinho seems to have lost control over some things. The team regresses and he says we played well, the players had the right attitude when it didn't happen. I don't know if he's in denial, if he's lost it or if he's telling a different story to the players. The players need to put their heart in the matches, otherwise it won't happen.

I never meant it that we shouldn't get new players (from youth or market), but it's one thing to suggest a couple of players and it's another to think half of our squad is done, trash and should be showed the exit door.

My comment about the youth isn't that it shouldn't be done, but how the poor kids will be exposed to this demanding behavior from Chelsea fans (on internet, the support that actually goes to the stadium seems much more patient). So thinking about the kids being called names when mistakes come, I think they better stay there to grow a thicker skin, not that they shouldn't be promoted.

Sorry for the ambiguity, I guess now it's clarified?

Totally agree that patience and support is important.

But if we are being patience and support the current manager then it begs to ask the question whey didn't we do it with the others?

This whole season so far has mask the truth that Mourinho ain't way above a AVB, Benitez, RDM, Carlo and such.

In fact AVB said it good when he was at Porto. They thought he was a good coach for the run he had but he said it was because he had good players. Which was true as that Porto had amazing player.

And that one day he would have not so great players and he would be the "Shit One"

I've never trusted any of the previous managers since he's left except Carlo to some extent. Everyone else doesn't seem that good imo.

It seems like Roman approached Mourinho with a different idea. It seems based on Mourinho's first interview that Roman is willing to build some legacy and he knows it comes with time. So I guess it's a new philosophy in the club?

Anyway, I suppose he's one of the few I'd give chances. I like few managers to be honest, so maybe I'm not the best person to answer that question anyway

[The_Flash 1,144]

I hink we need to break the bank and get a good striker I just would hope they would continue to be good. RVP transcended well to UTd but we don't want to spend alot and they get the striker jinx and suddenly be pish. I remember how good Torres was at Liverpool.

[bababoom 4,478]

If Jose thinks we've been playing "amazing" football this season than he needs to watch City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton and Southampton play.

Last few years we've bought god knows how many attacking players, spending 100 million+, and Jose thinks we may need to go more defensive... give me a break.

I'm calling it here first, Schurrle as a false number nine against Arsenal. The bus is coming back lads.

[bushman 2,043]

Just confirmed Jose to play more defensively. Apparently, it´s easy to win games when the team leads 1 zip. LOL