The Mourinho Thread

[Muzchap 8,966]

Ranieri failed miserably with Greece, but he's now top of the table with Leicester.

And Holland have underperformed for years

Hiddink is a decent manager until the summer

[MichaelDance 552]

A bad season is finishing 6th or 7th. This is catastrophically shambolic being in 16th nearly halfway through the year with less points than league matches played.

I don't think things would be terrible if Chelsea was in 6 or 7th right now and players had had a poor start to the year.

However, the reality is that Chelsea could get relegated unless there are changes.

Let me repeat that... Chelsea could get relegated coming off of winning the league by a large margin in the prior campaign.

Hasn't happened since 1937-1938 Man City.

Yeah we won't get regelated if we buckle down. We've got January to make transfers to bring in stars and get rid of the ones not pulling their weight.

So by that logic last season was all players as well? You can't give Mourinho any credit for last season if you don't give him blame for this. For all the brilliant points brought up in this topic, I can't believe there are still people who don't see any fault in Jose.

If you worked hard for 2x 45minutes running around every week even more when we was in the cups. Would you still be able to do that next season? You probably won't you will be tired (drained). He and us are confused to why we're not getting the results we did last season but we did (if you can still remember) play most players including John Terry for most of the season.

Fair enough, Sack Mourinho, let's hope they do... Then when you come back here the season after with the same players and see if we stay as bad as we are or worse and then tell me it's not the players?? Just don't then go we need Mourinho when he wins trophies elsewhere because if I was him I would say "f*ck yourself" if you came crawling back a third time.

[MichaelDance 552]

Ranieri failed miserably with Greece, but he's now top of the table with Leicester.

He didn't get far with Greece and has now got Leicester at the top of the table with the same players near enough as last season, and some people here blame Mourinho... That says it all doesn't it?

[manpe 10,861]

Chelsea players worried by quality of possible mid-season Jose Mourinho replacements (Telegraph) #CFC

If it's true, they should be worried about their own quality.

[coolhead23 1,146]

But Hiddink's last job in charge of the Holland ended in FAILURE, prompting fears among some #CFC players his best days may be behind him.

Chelsea players worried by quality of possible mid-season Jose Mourinho replacements (Telegraph) #CFC

Seriously!!! Gone are the days when players use to take Roman yacht for a joy ride ... Journalists/Media outlets would write anything to sell their stuff ... Plain stupid!

And if the players are so worried about they need to pull their socks up first and show quality in their performance rather than been worried about the manager's ... They are equally to be blamed for the current situation.

[Pizy 18,368]

Pellegrini anyone?

He has the personality of a corpse. And he looks about 90.

[Muzchap 8,966]

He's not going - just speculation from Twitter and cheap journalists fishing for clicks...

Breaking news, own goal is upset after manager alleges he betrayed him...

Own goal prefers Ron Atkinson as interim manager...

[samzilla 517]

Last season, a number of things happened that showed the world Chelsea could be taken advantage of, despite being Champions.

-Cech going to Arsenal

-Everton slagging us off despite throwing stupid money at Stones and him putting in a transfer request

This showed the entire world that despite being Champions, we could be stood up. Stand up to us and we'll relent. Factor in not improving the squad in the transfer window, Mourinho losing to Wenger for the first time in their history in the Community Shield, the Eva scandal, and it's all lead to teams standing up to us ever since.

ps- I know Cech's a legend and if anyone had a right to choose where he went, it's him. I know it was Abramovich's call, not Mourinho's (according to reports anyway). Still wish it didn't happen.

[Jase 43,479]

He has the personality of a corpse. And he looks about 90.

Ageist. Banned.

[Ledg 638]

ESPN reported that the Sunderland game is his last chance. If he loses, he's gone.

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

Joey Barton and Wee Pat on R5

Both agreeing for once !

''if Ivanovich had tapped that sitter in, and Costa hadnt missed the one on one people would be talking about a top 4.''

''mourinho is right in that he was betrayed''

''Bottom line the star players are not performing and the back four are sloppy''

''Given that Mourinho is in the top 3 managers in the World it would be stupid to ditch him. ''

[Muzchap 8,966]

ESPN reported that the Sunderland game is his last chance. If he loses, he's gone.

How many previous games did ESPN also report the same story

Jose Mourinho will be fired if he fails to win his next game against <insert Team> it is rumoured that Chelsea are looking at <insert dubious manager> as a temporary replacement until the summer when <insert big name manager> will be available...

Rinse and repeat...

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Ronald Koeman not in the mix? How much will take to lure him away from the Saints?

[Ledg 638]

^ Just poting what they reported. Didn't say it was legit.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Just poting what they reported. Didn't say it was legit.

Yeah sorry dude - wasn't a personal attack on you - just more of an observation about how pathetic the media have been in this whole process...

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Ronald Koeman not in the mix? How much will take to lure him away from the Saints?

Other options for Chelsea to consider include Sevilla’s Unai Emery and Southampton manager Ronald Koeman. (Telegraph) #CFC

[Peace. 4,352]

probably it means the Board actually doesn't know what they are doing and are paralysed by this awful season.

Yes, they don't know what to do. They've already tried : Ranieri ; Mourinho ; Grant ; Scolari ; Hiddink ; Ancelotti ; Villas-Boas ; di Matteo the interim ; di Matteo the manager ; Benitez ; Mourinho mark II. That's 11 managers, and none appears to work, or at least to satisfy their taste (Hiddink and di Matteo the interim are special cases). They have also tried a lot of profiles : the 'young star' (Mourinho, Villas-Boas) ; the 'established' (Scolari, Hiddink, Ancelotti, Benitez, Mourinho mark II) ; the 'promoted from the rank' (Grant, di Matteo the manager) ; the 'old-one' (Mourinho mark II).

What is left to turn to, for non-footballer persons like them ? There are not many 'established' managers left... Guardiola, Enrique, Simeone ? Probably unreachable—and not possible until the end of the season. Klopp is already taken. Ancelotti is free but already tired out. The rest are an average bunch. You have maybe guys like the Dortmund's manager who are rather a 'lower' profile and not hyped like Villas-Boas was. As for the 'rest of the world', that is too underground for the board.

Their inaction might to be attributed to the fact they have already someone for next year. But even then, it does not explain why they do not act ? After all, sacking the manager mid-season when things were bad proved to be an option that actually worked. After sacking Mourinho, we were one-penalty series away of winning the Champions League. After sacking Scolari, we won the FA Cup and if it was our day we would have reached for the second time (in a row) the Champions League Final. After sacking Villas-Boas, we won the Champions League and the FA Cup (and managed to take back the CL spot that slipped away in the League). After sacking di Matteo, we also secured a CL spot that was not certain and won the Europa League.

So yeah, even if we already have a manager, why be passive right now ? Why not try to stop the free-fall that we are enduring and try to secure some 'sane' bases for the next manager to come ? It's not even about winning the FA Cup or the Champions League. It's about de-zombifying our players, to start to push away the wood-legs and to introduce the youngsters that have potential, and more basically, to give them optimism and positivism...some bright light. They are definitely not enjoying their football—you cannot produce when you are not enjoying your stuff—and this miserable situation makes it only worse.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Yes, they don't know what to do. They've already tried : Ranieri ; Mourinho ; Grant ; Scolari ; Hiddink ; Ancelotti ; Villas-Boas ; di Matteo the interim ; di Matteo the manager ; Benitez ; Mourinho mark II. That's 11 managers, and none appears to work, or at least to satisfy their taste (Hiddink and di Matteo the interim are special cases). They have also tried a lot of profiles : the 'young star' (Mourinho, Villas-Boas) ; the 'established' (Scolari, Hiddink, Ancelotti, Benitez, Mourinho mark II) ; the 'promoted from the rank' (Grant, di Matteo the manager) ; the 'old-one' (Mourinho mark II).

What is left to turn to, for non-footballer persons like them ? There are not many 'established' managers left... Guardiola, Enrique, Simeone ? Probably unreachable—and not possible until the end of the season. Klopp is already taken. Ancelotti is free but already tired out. The rest are an average bunch. You have maybe guys like the Dortmund's manager who are rather a 'lower' profile and not hyped like Villas-Boas was. As for the 'rest of the world', that is too underground for the board.

Their inaction might to be attributed to the fact they have already someone for next year. But even then, it does not explain why they do not act ? After all, sacking the manager mid-season when things were bad proved to be an option that actually worked. After sacking Mourinho, we were one-penalty series away of winning the Champions League. After sacking Scolari, we won the FA Cup and if it was our day we would have reached for the second time (in a row) the Champions League Final. After sacking Villas-Boas, we won the Champions League and the FA Cup (and managed to take back the CL spot that slipped away in the League). After sacking di Matteo, we also secured a CL spot that was not certain and won the Europa League.

So yeah, even if we already have a manager, why be passive right now ? Why not try to stop the free-fall that we are enduring and try to secure some 'sane' bases for the next manager to come ? It's not even about winning the FA Cup or the Champions League. It's about de-zombifying our players, to start to push away the wood-legs and to introduce the youngsters that have potential, and more basically, to give them optimism and positivism...some bright light. They are definitely not enjoying their football—you cannot produce when you are not enjoying your stuff—and this miserable situation makes it only worse.

Because that's short termism and we're running out of managers; plus the match day fans (myself included) still love Mourinho; unless it's someone previously connected to the club like Di Matteo or Zola I honestly think the fans will revolt, the atmosphere will become toxic and if it emerges that the players forced him out there will be revolt, there is no desire at all from the stands to sack him, Roman knows it because he hears the name sung every Saturday from his box.

All I can say is that be careful what you wish for. Sacking a fan favourite will not go down well with anybody. It's also another reason why Mourinho will not drop John Terry, the one thing fans will not take is dropping the heart and soul of the club and possibly the best player we've seen in the shirt in times like this. Jose needs stability, lieutenants he can trust (yes, that's why Iva still gets his spot on he team) because it seems like the dressing room is cracking at the seams and he needs glue to hold it together.