The Mourinho Thread

[Miki-Liki 405]

You read into the media so much.

That's the first step to being plastic.

Sure mate.

Jose is the best!!!

Am I a true blue now?

[zakhov 253]

I voted Undecided not because I'm on the fence but I believe he deserves to keep the job until the end of the season.

Klopp got to keep his at Dortmund and only left because he wanted to.

He brought us bucketload of titles and accomplishments, as well as elevating a lot of our players into legends.

He deserves a chance to not only save his career but bring this club(which he loves) out of trouble.

On the other hand, if let's say in January we don't go out and rectify our squad issues and he keeps playing Ivanovic in poor form, he's obviously looking to get sacked.

[Adnane 1,101]

If any coach deserves forgiveness and second chances, then it has to be the best one this club has ever had. Sort yourself out ! #theOne

[Melanicus 5,208]

THE LOVE STORY

PLAY THIS SONG WHILE LOOKING THROUGH THE PICTURES

LET'S START!

At first it seemed impossible, the age difference was just too big...

But then, something happened. Branislav whispered into Jose's ears: "I love Jose, I love you no matter what they say."

The romance has blossomed.

The smiles.

The looks.

First hugs.

Spending more and more time together.

They couldn't live without each other.

Jose snubbed his other lovers for Ivanovic and as you can see Gary wasn't too happy about it.

But at one point Ivanovic became jealous when he caught Mourinho hugging Fabregas.

They had their arguments.

But Mourinho still loved Ivanovic, he was hurt when Ivanovic was hurt.

At the end they met each other again and kissed in the rain to live happily ever after.

THE END.

[lionsden 4,689]

Do people seriously need to call others 'Mourinho Haters', 'Mourinho Fanboys' or things like that every time? When will people understand that there's always 2 sides to any argument/debate? Have seen both parties post valid points as to why they think Mourinho should be sacked or shouldn't. If you don't agree with them, just agree to disagree. There's no need to feel like you have to convince everyone to agree with you or bash them for daring to have another opinion and more importantly, there's no need to resort to name calling. It will only cause petty squabbles and create a toxic atmosphere in a place that I'm sure many enjoy to be on.

How is "keep mourinho in charge" crowd,derogatory?. You are just clutching at straws and you know it. That statement is no different than saying those who are in favor of the club keeping jose as manager but carry on.

BTW we are still waiting for a solid counter argument to blue color sky and peace posts.

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

He put it all very well last night, I think: "This is a crucial moment in the history of this club. Do you know why? Because if the club sack me they sack the best manager this club ever had. And the message again is that if there are bad results, the manager is guilty. This is the message people have got over the last decade from Chelsea so this is a moment when people assume responsibilities, including me, the players and other people in the club. We need to stick together. This is what I want.

I have no signs that anything changes. But you know the history of this club: every time the results are not good, there has been a change of manager. The power is always, in the end, with the owner and the board. But when I was contacted to come back, I was told: ‘We had so many managers, and we know you are the best.’ So I think it’s time for the club to act in a different way, to mark a position of stability, a position of trust.

Three months ago we were on the bus with the cups, so it’s time for all of us to be together now at the bottom of the league. And I think, in December, January, February we will be top four. To be champions would be very, very difficult, but top four is completely do-able. Do the players trust me and feel I am the man for the job? This week we spoke about it and the answer was not in doubt. The supporters … when they booed the decision to take off Willian I would have done the same if I hadn’t known Willian was vomiting in the dressing room at half-time. If they have some negative reaction at the end, I’d do the same because the result wasn’t what we wanted.”

And then went on to talk about playing youngsters: "Yes, I agree totally. My job is not so simple. I have to measure the situation & ask what's the best thing. Clearly it is not the time to play 4, 5, 6 kids. Because some are not ready. But I think Ruben is one that is more ready.

I cannot name the players. I cannot say Peter and Carl and Anthony - I can't say. But it is easy to see some are in difficulty.

I was never afraid of responsibility. One of the changes I am going to do, because he is the one that is ready, is Ruben."

[herzogian 148]

THE LOVE STORY

PLAY THIS SONG WHILE LOOKING THROUGH THE PICTURES

LET'S START!

Awesome, you have to scroll slowely to get the vibe though . Are Cahill and Hazard looking a bit jealous in the 6th and 9th pic? Love triangle perhaps?

[Jase 43,479]

How is "keep mourinho in charge" crowd,derogatory?. You are just clutching at straws and you know it. That statement is no different than saying those who are in favor of the club keeping jose as manager but carry on.

You're missing the bigger point here. Regardless of whether it was insulting or not, such posts only serve to incite trouble, cause petty squabbles between members etc and these situations are not really desirable. I'm sure you are smart enough to realize that.

BTW we are still waiting for a solid counter argument to blue color sky and peace posts.

That is exactly what I talked about in the previous post. If people want to agree or disagree with the posts, they will do it. You don't have to go around acting as if their views are right (no one is right or wrong here) and anyone who disagrees with it should be condemned. Does nothing but invite trouble.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

What do people expect Terry to say? Does anyone really think he's gonna come out and say "Yeah, he's completely lost the dressing room, and it's obvious he can't get us out of this mess. The earlier he leaves the better."

His words to the press mean very little about what the mood is in the dressing room.

[Polo7 3,496]

What do people expect Terry to say? Does anyone really think he's gonna come out and say "Yeah, he's completely lost the dressing room, and it's obvious he can't get us out of this mess. The earlier he leaves the better."

His words to the press mean very little about what the mood is in the dressing room.

He could say nothing.

[Stingray 9,441]

That is not stability, this is not true.

Stability cannot be attributed to players or managers... They have a relatively short football life-span while clubs last for many generations. For instance, Mourinho coaches for a tad more than 10 years while the club exist for more than 100 years. Players and managers come and go and their profiles change just as regularly. How can such unstable elements bring stability to an entity that out-life them ? They do not and they cannot.

Stability is not human flesh, this is a concept. A concept that transcends players, managers and even presidents. Actually, stability is none other than a clearly identified identity. Barcelona is the perfect example. In ten years they had four managers : Pep, Tito, Tata, Enrique. The players have also changed : only Iniesta, Messi, Alves and Piqué are remaining from Pep's first season. Despite the changes in players, in managers and in presidents, during all these years Barça enjoyed success — aside of Tata's season (where he still was not that far away from winning the league). And they did so while playing with the same identity. Of course their game changed a little bit from year to year. Yet its identity remained the same, i.e. an offensive and good-looking game based upon a highly technical group of players where the collective is greater than the individuality and a desire to do their game no matter the opposition. This clearly identified identity is a major aspect of their constant succes in the last decade, because this identity is shared from the academy to the first team players, and from the supporters to the presidents. That is stability.

Another example : Arsenal and Wenger. During the last decade of his management at Arsenal, the club went from the Invincibles, to a group of teenagers trying to emulate Barcelona, to the actual group of mediocre mid-twenty players that pride itself in finishing fourth. That is not stability. That is a roller-coaster in terms of identity and in terms of results.

Let's go back to Chelsea. Where is the stability ? Where is the identity ? We went from an "ok" game, to a delightful game, to an ugly game, to.... The 16th place. It has also been — and still is — a roller-coaster. If there was no stability since Roman took over, that is not because he sacked managers every new moon. That is because we hired managers that had nothing to do with each other and because we bought players for the sake of it, without any policy. In other words, we were unstable because we did not have any identity. And funnily enough, since the Torres debacle we are trying to build an identity (we mainly bought young, dynamic and up-coming players that are at least decent with the ball)... but it is all going up into smoke as we are speaking.

Right now, the only stable element at the club — in regards to the sportive side — is Ivanovic's starting spot. Sacking Mourinho will only make one thing unstable : Ivanovic's starting spot.

This. Identity is key

[Jase 43,479]

He could say nothing.

The interview was with Chelsea TV, I think. Don't think he could just ignore it. Could have certainly said less than he did though.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He could say nothing.

I don't think "Pass" is an option really when a journo is asking him a question

[lucio 5,418]

Functional basics , powerful midfield , 433 , width , fullbacks.

Mourinho often says football can be simple. Prove it then.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Three months ago we were on the bus with the cups, so it’s time for all of us to be together now at the bottom of the league.

Relegation party

And I think, in December, January, February we will be top four.

I don't think it will be that easy.

[manpe 10,861]

was never afraid of responsibility. One of the changes I am going to do, because he is the one that is ready, is Ruben."

Did he actually say it? Well, if there is a slight chance of this happening, then RLC will most likely replace Matic, not the one who needs to be replaced. We will keep on struggling and RLC will look bad in the pivot with Cesc. Maybe I am a bit too pessimistic, but this is what I can see happening.

I want to see Ramires, Matic/Mikel and RLC midfield in a 4-3-3. Pls Jose Fuck all the fancy pussy playmakers, go back to the roots and try to emulate a Essien, Lampard, Ballack midfield. I'm sick and tired of watching us try and miserably fail in playing beautiful football, it's so unnatural to us that even though we theoretically have the players for it, we still can't do it. Just stop trying please and let's fall back to what made us one of the most feared teams in Europe 10 years ago.

[Tomo 21,754]

Mourinho should have gone today - how he survived that fucking meeting I will never know.

But he now knows the writings on the wall.

You're never going to change the minds of Jose fan boys - so I don't even bother anymore. I just want what's best for Chelsea FC and this 'toxic' dude is not it. What happened to the happy one? The I will play 'youth' one.

The season is now fucked - so what have we got to lose - change the fucking formation, start playing the players with form and start playing attacking football.

But we all know what's coming. More boring defending (or lack of it), more blame on the referee, medical staff, gardener or maybe the lighting! Last year it was the fans... My how that escalated quickly...

Well regarding the youth, if Pellegrino gave City youth the game time so far Jose has given Kennedy andRLC the English footy thread would be full of posts praising him.

And 're "fanboys" I mean its one thing the trolls going down this route but I'm disappointed you, lionsden and a few others go down that route to say the least, its one thing thinking he's not the right man to take us forward but its another thing not respecting the fact there will be supporters with the emotional attatchementthat can't let go that easy.

Like I said yesterday, and for aslong as the fanboy route is used I'll keep repeating this, Liverpool fans were divided with Kenny in 2012, some thought he was lost in the modern game and wanted him to step down, others couldn't let go because of the impact he made for the club, but I was on an all footy forum at the time and the former group always remained respectful to the latter group, if they off all people can manage that, why manage it?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

The question about Jose's future with the club is not that of sentiment or loyalty. It's a single question: Do you believe he can get us to beat all of Liverpool, Tottenham, Everton, Southampton...etc. to fourth place?

That is really all that matters in the league right now. Because not making the UCL would be a disaster for a club like us.

[Jase 43,479]

The question about Jose's future with the club is not that of sentiment or loyalty. It's a single question: Do you believe he can get us to beat all of Liverpool, Tottenham, Everton, Southampton...etc. to fourth place?

That is really all that matters in the league right now. Because not making the UCL would be a disaster for a club like us.

Well, we can always win the Europa League.

[The Mak 4,459]