termninja 5,290 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The whole situation is just idiotic and something that Jose and medical team will solve between themselves easily when tempers aren't hot. Both Jose and Eva were wrong to make anything public and things like this only add to negative opinion about chelsea. Still, I feel the whole situation is just the idiotic English and media blowing stuff out of proportion and drowning in money from idiotic readers. Some people just need to get on with their lives... I'm not even going to bother with all the crap, I'm waiting for Man City game to see our players play and our doctor can be dr House himself if it means he'll do a great job. ice-boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-boy 165 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 48 articles for this "row" in 2 days from Daily Mail. guddy69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Peace. 4,352 Posted August 13, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 13, 2015 The whole situation has been a PR disaster. Mourinho should have kept his mouth shut and said nothing when he was asked about it after Saturday's game. If he was unhappy with the physios, then he should have discussed and settled the issue with them behind closed doors. Why did he need to make such a fuss over one simple incident? He made Eva and Fearn look like fools by claiming they don't understand the game, when the reality was, they only went onto the field because Hazard needed treatment and referee waved them on. They didn't just blindly run onto the pitch and no one but Hazard can be 100% certain that he didn't suffer an injury at that time. Perhaps, Mourinho himself doesn't understand how the medical rule works in situations like that (or maybe he does, but it just doesn't apply when we're not winning).Funnily enough, on that special event our medical staff was, in a way, probably understanding football better than mister Mourinho. It is never a good thing to start the season buy losing points, but there are 37 games remaining to do better. So why would anyone risk to un-attend by far our best player in order to potentially get two more points when we desperately need him to get the 111 remaining points ? Especially when the very next game against City is definitely greatly important as they are the more potent title rival ?It neither was the Champions League final nor was it the last few games of the League. They was no reason to take such a risk. Mr Mourinho can say what he wants regarding our physios, but he would have looked like a proper idiot if Hazard was unavailable for some times — and in this case, it is more than two points that we would lose... LDN Blue, Jase, MrBlueGuy and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Funnily enough, on that special event our medical staff was, in a way, probably understanding football better than mister Mourinho. It is never a good thing to start the season buy losing points, but there are 37 games remaining to do better. So why would anyone risk to un-attend by far our best player in order to potentially get two more points when we desperately need him to get the 111 remaining points ? Especially when the very next game against City is definitely greatly important as they are the more potent title rival ?It neither was the Champions League final nor was it the last few games of the League. They was no reason to take such a risk. Mr Mourinho can say what he wants regarding our physios, but he would have looked like a proper idiot if Hazard was unavailable for some times — and in this case, it is more than two points that we would lose...Precisely. Mourinho let emotions get the better of him, on the very first game of the season, and ironically didn't see the bigger picture that our medical team does by default. Peace. and Henrique 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Jose can say what he wants regarding the physio team, the problem being is that he should of been saying it in an environment that was behind closed doors. ZOS and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 This whole jip between Mourinho and Carneiro needs to be resolved, otherwise this is going to drag on and on, creating nothing but negativity around the club, and it's going to affect our form! What's really annoying, is that squabbles like this is something that could have easily been avoided had Jose kept his mouth shut! zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmPaYkQJmfEThe referee asked our medical staff to come onto the field. Twice.Also look at how Hazard is lying there on the ground. There's just no way anyone (neither Mourinho or the medical staff) could have known he wasn't seriously injured. LDN Blue, Jase, Stingray and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I heard that we already replaced Eva and Jon...Its right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 It is pointless continuing this discussion imo, there will always be 2 sides who keep defending their point. The Mourinho fans won't stop and will keep coming with reasons to defend while others will also try to condemn Jose and defend Eva overboard perhaps ignoring Fearn who also got little to no mention at all so far.Even nowadays controversial figures like Hitler, Stalin...etc are getting defended by some people(Neo Nazi, communists and other minority groups) even though they are almost universally condemned, it is just nature of a debate. There will always be 2 sides for everything so we might as well just leave it before it starts going in circle again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lionsden 4,689 Posted August 13, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm 100 percent convinced that every single poster defending Jose and trying to make light of the situation are doing so out of bias. From a neutral perspective, I'm willing to bet my mortgage on the fact that the tune will be different if José wasn't involved in the incident and it was Rafa or manager of some random/rival club.No rational and non bias human being will view Jose's behaviour as anything but negative, aggressive and completely out of odrder and be held as the culprit in this situation. This sets a very dangerous precedent from now on and backs Jose and the club into a very awkward corner. I.e "all physios will be required permission from Jose (the medical expert himself before doing their job or get demoted" Zazard, LDN Blue, bluesman2610 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmPaYkQJmfEThe referee asked our medical staff to come onto the field. Twice.Also look at how Hazard is lying there on the ground. There's just no way anyone (neither Mourinho or the medical staff) could have known he wasn't seriously injured.The video title - Eva CORNEIRA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I heard that we already replaced Eva and Jon...Its right??If this is true it would be a disgrace especially with the service & dedication our medical staff have shown.If they get dismissed it would definitely be a strong case for unfair dismissal which could become an ugly legal case that will tarnish our club's reputation. That video above is the killer evidence showing medical staff getting called on the pitch twice by the match referee. The ref and medical staff practising duty of care while Jose is having a childish fit on the sidelines and public sook afterwards hitting out at the innocent party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm 100 percent convinced that every single poster defending Jose and trying to make light of the situation are doing so out of bias. From a neutral perspective, I'm willing to bet my mortgage on the fact that the tune will be different if José wasn't involved in the incident and it was Rafa or manager of some random/rival club.No rational and non bias human being will view Jose's behaviour as anything but negative, aggressive and completely out of odrder.This sets a very dangerous precedent from now on and backs Jose and the club into a very awkward corner. I.e "all physios will be required permission from Jose (the medical expert himself before doing their job or get demoted"As long as we win games like I said some fans will defend the manager/players to death for anything they done just short of committing murder. If there is new tomorrow of Fabregas assaulted someone in a bar club and currently arrested, people will still defend him because he is our best midfielder. Same with other star players like Courtois, Hazard, Costa...etc. It is not limited to just Chelsea fans though but football fans in general. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm 100 percent convinced that every single poster defending Jose and trying to make light of the situation are doing so out of bias. From a neutral perspective, I'm willing to bet my mortgage on the fact that the tune will be different if José wasn't involved in the incident and it was Rafa or manager of some random/rival club.No rational and non bias human being will view Jose's behaviour as anything but negative, aggressive and completely out of odrder and be held as the culprit in this situation.This sets a very dangerous precedent from now on and backs Jose and the club into a very awkward corner. I.e "all physios will be required permission from Jose (the medical expert himself before doing their job or get demoted"I agree if it was Rafa in this situation we would all be calling for his head to roll... Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 These hoes ain't loyal.You back, dude? [emoji7] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If she got chewed out by her manager and went through company media thanking supporters she most certainly would have, especially in a position as replaceable as assistant physio.Jose is not her manager though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 13, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 13, 2015 Posting that message on Facebook is not doing her job. As a backroom staff member you should not seek the spotlights. Your job is to help the team and the players discreetly. As a professional you're basically a unit, a number, a machine, you should not have an ego in public. She can post what ever she wants as the person Eva, but as the Chelsea doctor Eva you have restrictions. By posting that message on FB, she basically broke some rules of her function. Plus, she brought the club a lot of extra negative attention. If she just ignored everything and didn't start the Eva vs Jose war, the media would be silent after one day. Jose on the other hand, is being hired to speak publicly. He has 20 interviews and 10 press conferences every month, it's a part of his job to speak to the media. He has the right to criticize his staff and his players. Whether this criticism is correct or not, or what he says in public is correct or not, this should be reviewed by the people above him (the board and Roman) and not Chelsea doctor Eva. How do you know it's not in Eva's legislation to make a comment like "thank you for the support" and that it's out of her professional job? I disagree. If that was so she would've been fired by the club. She's been banned from training and the touch line because the manager of the team, Jose, doesn't want her there and that's under his jurisdiction, so he can make that decision (which is very unnecessary IMO). Eva however is under the medical team at the club, and if she did violate her terms of contract she would've been fired by now. They both didn't do well but what Jose is doing far outweighs what Eva's done wrong. What Eva's done wrong is go to social media and aggravate the situation. What Jose did wrong is throw a petulant rant on the touch line, being absolutely childish in the media about the whole situation and then banning her (and her fellow physio who were simply just following instructions! From the referee!) from even attending the matches on the sideline or the training ground. It's ridiculous stuff from Jose IMO. 11Drogba, yuvala, Muzchap and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Jose was in the wrong to criticize the medical team. You can't just ask the medical team to not enter the pitch.Does the ref ask the player if he needs medical attention? Or does the ref make this call? How is the ref qualified to make that call if Jose isn't? I'm sure it's the player that asks for treatment, therefore it was Hazard who was at fault for asking for treatment.That said, Eva shouldn't have turned it into all about herself by posting that public FB message. That was incredibly stupid.I'm sure the demotion is for other reasons than just this incident. There is no way the medical team would get demoted for this. Chelsea isn't that stupid, they'd instantly get sued. They would have cited other reasons (even if minor and/or BS). Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted August 13, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 13, 2015 ice-boy, LDN Blue, chrismada9 and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Eden was in pain. It does n't mean when you feel great pain after a knock that you have sustained injury. It's more often than not just a pain, neural reaction. I hit my elbow on a door and fainted but nothing of any importance happened. I think I played football soon after, with the school team.The new vid shows Mourinho had time to say to the medics "no don't go" but he did n't.The only remaining possibility is if Mourinho had already advised the doctors to ask him every time. Beyond that, the case for Mourinho's over the incident is all but extinct.Actually I think he was just moaninc in that tv interview. Jose is an innocent fellow and he does n't readily grasp the plots and machinations of the slimey press.But somehow the thing became explosive.I wonder.Something happens here. Somebody calls someone else a "c*nt", the homegrown expression indicating a slight difference of opinion between two users. Before it going to the judge, won't we try to sort it out ?So between the tv interview and the tweeter what happened ?Anyway both persons are living club history each from his own post and they 're not allowed to fall apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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