The Mourinho Thread

[gr123 167]

The manager's argument is that the player never needed nor asked for medical attention in the first place.

In which case why wasn't Hazard given shit for his actions? The ref twice waved in the medical staff, what we're they supposed to do?

Don't get me wrong, I love Mourinho for obvious reasons but at times he's a knob and an embarrassment. Would be nice to see a season without a PR disaster for the club, couldn't even manage a day.

[iseah100 5,612]

He said nothing sexist. She needs to chill.

[ice-boy 165]

8 news for this "row" fucking 8. stupid DM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/index.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-medical-staffs-treatment-appalling-6242129

Mourinho continues to have the backing of Chelsea hierarchy.

It is believed the controversy at Stamford Bridge last weekend was the far from the first time that Mourinho has been unhappy about his medical team.

Chelsea have yet to confirm who will take the places of Carneiro and Fearn on the team bench for Sunday’s game at Manchester City.

But it is understood the club will confirm this week that they were unhappy withCarneiro’s decision to acknowledge the support she had received over the row on Facebook.

[nullabletype 987]

That's really ignorant from Martin Samuel. Yes, players do go down late on in matches because they are knackered but just because that's the case most of the time, it doesn't mean players don't pick up injury from such situations. How can he, Mourinho or anyone else be sure that Hazard didn't get an injury, especially when he's the player who gets kicked most of the time? If Hazard had actually picked up an injury but wasn't treated at the time and something happened to him later, then what - we would be pointing fingers at others, no? It's just like I said yesterday, Mourinho wouldn't have made a fuss about this if we were winning the match when Hazard called for medical attention but because we weren't, he decided he needed something (or someone in this case) to divert the attention away from the result and performance.

You're correct, José probably wouldn't have complained if we were winning. I believe that's the entire point...

He said, which is what the piece by Martin Samuel acknowledges, that he wants the medical staff to have awareness of the game. Having awareness would be not coming on to the pitch after an innocuous incident when he needs all hands on deck. The piece points out, I think correctly, that José doesn't require a medical degree to tell a horrendous challenge from a light one. That's a fairly straight forward footballing decision. There's no point acting like every challenge should be treated equally by medical staff when we know they don't come on for every issue. I mean 9 times out 10 we can usually differentiate for ourselves sitting at home watching it. So no, he wouldn't complain if we were winning, because he'd want the medical staff to come on and run the clock down, and he expects them to understand this.

[Barbara 15,149]

Or maybe she actually was just thanking fans for their support? She has a huge following and the positive support she got must have been overwhelming. You have no idea as to her intentions, so please stop pretending like you do.

And the club like most companies in the world have social media guidelines. Yes, it was passive aggressive and not something your employers expect from you (doing your laundry publicly through social media) . This circus has been caused because of her reaction. Had she said nothing the media would have already let it go. But she had to say that, the club and not Mourinho, took a decision and the bad PR continues.

Mourinho WAS wrong to talk about it. But a lot of lies has been said on this thread for people to have yet another reason to criticize him beyond what happened. He NEVER blamed the performance and dropped points on that. He was asked a straight question and he answered. The videos of his reactions show how pissed he was the EXACT moment they got into the pitch, before the free kick, before any potential consequences and the end of the match. That was his true reaction not deflection...

He should have avoided answering the question, as he does when he wants. That's his one mistake here. He didn't blame her, he didn't deflect anything, during the actual post match press he acknowledged some things, he admitted the bad result. If he wanted excuses he would have mentioned the red card, which did cost us. Unlike many here he has a working brain, if he wants to find excuses, he'd given a buyable one, not some half arsed insignificant episode.

Then the media and most people here transformed it into a circus. People criticize DM journalists, but they should have a reality check because they write even worse shit here and would do as bad if they worked there.

Also, Mourinho's power in the club isn't what people make it out to be. He personally probably doesn't give two fucks about what she said, but in all honesty in the world, how many other docs and phisios in the last 12 months made it to the media in a negative way as Chelsea's? Maybe the power to be got tired of her actions in the pitch making the headlines every few months. The social media teenager behavior must have been the last straw, but let's blame it all on Mourinho and decide that he's been the person that took her job requirements away because that's what managers do, right?

She doesn't even report straight (or in any form) to him. She's a Chelsea FC employee and while Mourinho could tell his superiors to go get another one because she's not up to his expectations, it's still a club decision, not his. This is not like his assistants, but I'll overlook some comments because I'm positive many here has never even stepped on a real life company, let alone a world wide one like Chelsea. They're obviously talking about things they don't remotely have a clue about.

[ice-boy 165]

95% of TC members

[Amblève. 4,995]

The good news, I guess, is at least nobody's talking about our performance vs Swansea. Mission accomplished, Jose.

[the wes 7,212]

why dont we ask eva to be are next manager ffs i wish people would back off and leave mourinho alone

[Kish9 50]

So Mourinho can publicly embarrass his medical team infront of the whole world but people are having an issue with Eva thanking people for support and good messages? If a manager at work from a different department had a go at me infront of everyone just because i was doing my job, why would it be an issue if i thanked people for sending me their support?

Some people on this forum cant see past trophies, makes me womder if they know right from wrong no matter what status Jose or Eva have in the club.

[Kish9 50]

The good news, I guess, is at least nobody's talking about our performance vs Swansea. Mission accomplished, Jose.

I would rather everyone criticise the players for a week than the club be tainted for a very long time.

[Jase 43,479]

The good news, I guess, is at least nobody's talking about our performance vs Swansea. Mission accomplished, Jose.

Never mind that, nobody is talking about what happened elsewhere in the Premier League last weekend, such as Arsenal's (hilarious) defeat for instance. Everything has been on Eva/Physios/Mourinho since Monday!

[the wes 7,212]

instead worrying about eva we should be thinking about the city game

[Jase 43,479]

instead worrying about eva we should be thinking about the city game

Part of Mourinho's master plan, no one is talking about our form heading into the game...

[Pizy 19,374]

If we lose to City hopefully José farts in Pellegrino's face and we'll have another nice controversy to distract us from the result.

[Barbara 15,149]

Yes she was doing her job, like I said and have stated, but why, why take to social media when the power of her 'doing the job' was strong enough? She was going to the field and doing what she is paid for, to take to social media was fucking stupid, and put herself in this position because it became a 'Me v's them' mentality.

And we are where we are, right now.

Dude, give up. They don't know how the grownups world works. They're probably filling their all FB pages now with all their cute feelings and if/when they get a job in a slightly big company they'll probably throw a tantrum when they read the social media policy... Don't try to explain economy or electricity physics to a child, they don't have the tools to understand it...

[Muzchap 8,966]

And the club like most companies in the world have social media guidelines. Yes, it was passive aggressive and not something your employers expect from you (doing your laundry publicly through social media) . This circus has been caused because of her reaction. Had she said nothing the media would have already let it go. But she had to say that, the club and not Mourinho, took a decision and the bad PR continues.

Mourinho WAS wrong to talk about it. But a lot of lies has been said on this thread for people to have yet another reason to criticize him beyond what happened. He NEVER blamed the performance and dropped points on that. He was asked a straight question and he answered. The videos of his reactions show how pissed he was the EXACT moment they got into the pitch, before the free kick, before any potential consequences and the end of the match. That was his true reaction not deflection...

He should have avoided answering the question, as he does when he wants. That's his one mistake here. He didn't blame her, he didn't deflect anything, during the actual post match press he acknowledged some things, he admitted the bad result. If he wanted excuses he would have mentioned the red card, which did cost us. Unlike many here he has a working brain, if he wants to find excuses, he'd given a buyable one, not some half arsed insignificant episode.

Then the media and most people here transformed it into a circus. People criticize DM journalists, but they should have a reality check because they write even worse shit here and would do as bad if they worked there.

Also, Mourinho's power in the club isn't what people make it out to be. He personally probably doesn't give two fucks about what she said, but in all honesty in the world, how many other docs and phisios in the last 12 months made it to the media in a negative way as Chelsea's? Maybe the power to be got tired of her actions in the pitch making the headlines every few months. The social media teenager behavior must have been the last straw, but let's blame it all on Mourinho and decide that he's been the person that took her job requirements away because that's what managers do, right?

She doesn't even report straight (or in any form) to him. She's a Chelsea FC employee and while Mourinho could tell his superiors to go get another one because she's not up to his expectations, it's still a club decision, not his. This is not like his assistants, but I'll overlook some comments because I'm positive many here has never even stepped on a real life company, let alone a world wide one like Chelsea. They're obviously talking about things they don't remotely have a clue about.

Any social medi policy will also be backed by a 'media' policy - I cannot believe that making disparaging remarks about any Chelsea FC employee in Public would be tolerated.

That's my issue - Mourinho was being a childish idiot and crossed the line - he could have said nothing... Or hidden behind its not the clubs policy to publicly talk about staff members Yada yada... But no, he crossed the line and then what had followed is absolutely fucking farcical

I hope maybe the media realigns itself tomorrow and focuses on those huge explosions in China - it looked awful and I hope people were not killed, but looking at the explosion it seems inevitable. This event puts this and everything related to football into context

It's been a series of stupid actions, culminating in a circus show - but ultimately a show - whilst the 'real' tragedy of life continues unabated.

Sadly this has all of the hallmarks of Mou's previous tenure and we know how that ended - they say lightning never strikes the same place twice and thst history repeats itself - one of those statements is incorrect, the other is.... I will leave it to you to draw your own conclusions....

[Amblève. 4,995]

I would rather everyone criticise the players for a week than the club be tainted for a very long time.

Same, but as long as Mou is at the helm we're in for a long ride till that happens lol

Never mind that, nobody is talking about what happened elsewhere in the Premier League last weekend, such as Arsenal's (hilarious) defeat for instance. Everything has been on Eva/Physios/Mourinho since Monday!

That certainly isn't ideal to put it simply.

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Reading some of the DM 'news' articles and they build Jose to be the worse thing ever and has sublime power. If Jose had even just a single speck of control, i am sure that the players he wanted would be done here right now. But no they aren't. Chelsea are a corporate business along side a football club, hence the lack of urgency unless a player leaves, and maybe why Eva's demotion.

As it was said, both Eva and Jose had made mistakes in an unfortunate timing of the season. No doubt frustrations from the result got to Jose, as we know he can be hot-headed/honest after the game - sometimes too much - and it normally causes situations, he was wrong to say what he did, but one incident didn't cause the defeat and someone like Jose wouldn't blame it on a few minutes of a 90 minute game.

Unfortunately the situation has been sprung to a point where it is seemingly like a ship tearing into to, a 'us' versus 'them', which just so happen to be in the first proper game of the season. Media vultures were circling so maybe it was a PR decision to try and defuse public tensions, which was then added.

The truth is jaded and hidden away from the public, so people can only spectacle on the truths, but sadly the only sources are a slimy spinsters who are known to disregard common courtesy to bait people with bullshit.

[Barbara 15,149]

Any social medi policy will also be backed by a 'media' policy - I cannot believe that making disparaging remarks about any Chelsea FC employee in Public would be tolerated.

That's my issue - Mourinho was being a childish idiot and crossed the line - he could have said nothing... Or hidden behind its not the clubs policy to publicly talk about staff members Yada yada... But no, he crossed the line and then what had followed is absolutely fucking farcical

I hope maybe the media realigns itself tomorrow and focuses on those huge explosions in China - it looked awful and I hope people were not killed, but looking at the explosion it seems inevitable. This event puts this and everything related to football into context

It's been a series of stupid actions, culminating in a circus show - but ultimately a show - whilst the 'real' tragedy of life continues unabated.

Sadly this has all of the hallmarks of Mou's previous tenure and we know how that ended - they say lightning never strikes the same place twice and thst history repeats itself - one of those statements is incorrect, the other is.... I will leave it to you to draw your own conclusions....

I don't defend his behavior at all but people saying she was just sharing her feelings are as naive as she was (to use a nice word). Then others say he's using her to whatever, he isn't and he actually had a better excuse if he wanted one. And we both know the decision isn't his...

[ice-boy 165]

Part of Mourinho's master plan, no one is talking about our form heading into the game...

How is your view for this "row". Do you think is planned from the club or Mourinho?