The Mourinho Thread

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Obviously there might be something there. Especially since the other staff member Jon has apparently not been removed from match day duties despite running on the pitch before her. This is 100% based on social media postings.

I agree that she was probably removed due to posting it on facebook while the other guy didn't. But still this is not North Korea people are allowed to express their opinions, her post was not directly criticising Jose or revealing anything behind the scene that might have broke the club's code of conduct according to my knowledge. It is not like the media didn't know, her post just basically confirmed that the criticism Jose said was most likely directed toward her and I can think he probably talked her down behind the scene as well, hence making her feel the needs to post it on her fb page.

Either way though this shows he is showing his absolute control trait again, at Madrid he wasn't happy with Valdano so he also removed him. More concerning thing is it is sending out a message that this guy has total control of the club just below the highest level of Roman and that is dangerous for a manager to have.

[Fernando 6,585]

Wow this is ridiculous, arguing about a team doctor.....

There's still more important issues on the table about weather we are going to buy more players or stay with what we have and use younger players?

I said it before if mourinho doesn't want to do youth then it's better to buy reinforcement because just using the same players it will wear us out.

And I think that is what might happen since Mourinho is not a manager for youth.

[Tomo 21,751]

Some seem to think supporting Chelsea = Defend Mourinho at all cost/make his actions infallible. Mostly post-Roman crowd from my experience. This is not what supporting Chelsea is about. When the manager actions are out of order, he deserves to be called out. When the manager isn't doing his job properly, he deserves to be called out.

Like I have already said, it isn't about defending him at all costs, but pulling the old you don't have to be a Mourinho fan to be a Chelsea fan is kind off missing the point, when people deliver success and endear themselves to the fans an emotional attachment is always going to be there, like with Mourinho, like with Drogba, like with Zola, like withDi Matteo, like with JT and too a lesser extent the likes of Essien, Carvalho and Ancelotti aswell.

Some maybe go over the top at times, but it happens when you make such an impact at a club, go on a Liverpool forum and there be Liverpool fans who would never say a bad word about Dalglish despite his poor second coming setting them back years, go on a United forum and you will not see a bad word about Ryan Giggs despite the fact he was dogshit for the last few years of his career.

It's the nature of football, its not a fifa career mode save.

[Pizy 18,952]

I'm a Chelsea fan alright, not just a blind, slavish worshipper of Mourinho. The way some of you CHELSEA fans slavishly defend and turn a blind eye to everything this guy does, even when he's completely to blame is worrying. It's so small time, like Chelsea wasn't "Chelsea" before Mourinho and won't be when he goes. You pledge your allegiance to the manager. I only care about the club. That's the difference.

Voicing your annoyance at a lineup or a decision here and there is what most normal supporters do here. You take it above and beyond and are incessant. The guy just won us the league, for goodness sake, and you're hammering him all the time.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

I agree that she was probably removed due to posting it on facebook while the other guy didn't. But still this is not North Korea people are allowed to express their opinions, her post was not directly criticising Jose or revealing anything behind the scene that might have broke the club's code of conduct according to my knowledge. It is not like the media didn't know, her post just basically confirmed that the criticism Jose said was most likely directed toward her and I can think he probably talked her down behind the scene as well, hence making her feel the needs to post it on her fb page.

Either way though this shows he is showing his absolute control trait again, at Madrid he wasn't happy with Valdano so he also removed him. More concerning thing is it is sending out a message that this guy has total control of the club just below the highest level of Roman and that is dangerous for a manager to have.

Thing is, she didnt post anything on her Facebook page until this. It undermines his authority, and just comes off as passive aggressive.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I think people want Mourinho to apologize because he replied a presser who asked him a question immediately after an annoying match.

This will ride on till Mourinho's next conference on Friday.

[Tomo 21,751]

I agree that she was probably removed due to posting it on facebook while the other guy didn't. But still this is not North Korea people are allowed to express their opinions, her post was not directly criticising Jose or revealing anything behind the scene that might have broke the club's code of conduct according to my knowledge. It is not like the media didn't know, her post just basically confirmed that the criticism Jose said was most likely directed toward her and I can think he probably talked her down behind the scene as well, hence making her feel the needs to post it on her fb page.

Either way though this shows he is showing his absolute control trait again, at Madrid he wasn't happy with Valdano so he also removed him. More concerning thing is it is sending out a message that this guy has total control of the club just below the highest level of Roman and that is dangerous for a manager to have.

Well when the players were revolting against AVB 90% of Chelsea fans were pining for a manager with complete control, now we've got it we don't like

Bring back player power

[Special Juan 28,140]

Wait until this weeks presser and jose comes out and says "She should be in the kitchen anyway"

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Well when the players were revolting against AVB 90% of Chelsea fans were pining for a manager with complete control, now we've got it we don't like

Bring back player power

Like I said there needs to be a balance, not just one way or another. The my way or the high way approach lost us one of the best mid in world football now(Kevin De Bruyne) while the other approach made us finish 6th in BPL and essentially on the bring of having the worst season in recent memory until RDM came in.

It can't just be one extreme or another. If we let Jose have absolute power sooner or later the Madrid 12-13 scenario will happen again, Oscar has already started to show his annoyance with Jose, I am sure he won't be the last. I am thinking Ancelotti is the best for this, he doesn't let players dictate him nor do him try to be a dictator.

[Pizy 18,952]

Wait until this weeks presser and jose comes out and says "She should be in the kitchen anyway"

A few people here would stage an armed coup on Stamford Bridge if he did that.

[Laylabelle 9,536]

Surley he'd said the same if she was male..it just suddenly turned from this happened... to a sexism row... to he's loosing the plot is this the beginning ot the end

Either way its all a bit daft and needs to move on from it.Players should get a grip and not have a roll around/do some fun acting and maybei it'd be known if serious or just time wasting

[LemmeBorrowThat 124]

Pep was an asshole for what he did to Bayern's medical staff also. 30 years of hard worked turned to trash just because the manager wants to throw a tantrum. Let's be serious.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Like I have already said, it isn't about defending him at all costs, but pulling the old you don't have to be a Mourinho fan to be a Chelsea fan is kind off missing the point, when people deliver success and endear themselves to the fans an emotional attachment is always going to be there, like with Mourinho, like with Drogba, like with Zola, like withDi Matteo, like with JT too a lesser extent the likes of Essien, Carvalho and Ancelotti aswell.

Some maybe go over the top at times, but it happens when you make such an impact at a club, go on a Liverpool forum and there be Liverpool fans who would never say a bad word about Dalglish despite his poor second coming setting them back years, go on a United forum and you will not see a bad word about Ryan Giggs despite the fact he was dogshit for the last few years of his career.

It's the nature of football, its not a fifa career mode save.

(i) I don't really buy his faux emotional attachment nonsense because as soon as he left the club, he had no business mocking the club in one press conference at Inter and even calling Drogba of all people, a "diver". The guy that doesn't even know the most basic lyrics to our most popular song, ffs. Did you watch the victory parade? I felt embarrassed for him.

Part of this "one of us" nonsense is what Mourinho does at every club he manages. He has a lot of charisma and a tremendous cult of personality, so he either consciously or unconsciously woos some gullible idiots, (who really should revise WHY they support a football club) into thinking his actions are infallible and beyond reproach. So much so that criticizing him = criticizing Chelsea.

(ii) Ya think, Tomo?! Chelsea fans are a thousand times more defensive of Mourinho than Liverpool fans are of Dalglish or United fans of Sir Alex. United fans are sometimes very critical of Sir Alex, a guy whose won countless more trophies for United than Mourinho has at Chelsea. This example is also a bit of a red herring since Dalglish and Sir Alex, don't give as much of a reason to be criticized. Think of all the negativity the man attracts to our club, yet some of our "fans" dismiss it as just "hating, jealousy" or whatever.

Mourinho is slowly but surely pushing himself over the edge. He should know we are his last serious hope. Which top European club will employ him again after us knowing his incredibly volatile and ridiculous behaviour and the unattractive/reactive style of football his team's play?

[Jase 43,479]

Like I said there needs to be a balance, not just one way or another. The my way or the high way approach lost us one of the best mid in world football now(Kevin De Bruyne) while the other approach made us finish 6th in BPL and essentially on the bring of having the worst season in recent memory until RDM came in.

It's ironic you talk about the need to have balance when you're constantly bashing Mourinho on the forum all the time, even when he has done nothing wrong.

It can't just be one extreme or another. If we let Jose have absolute power sooner or later the Madrid 12-13 scenario will happen again, Oscar has already started to show his annoyance with Jose, I am sure he won't be the last. I am thinking Ancelotti is the best for this, he doesn't let players dictate him nor do him try to be a dictator.

I swear to God. People do read a lot into players' celebrations, don't they? Nothing has been said or written about Oscar falling out with Mourinho (and there's not even a good reason for that to happen) but here you are, stating as though it is fact.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

Third season syndrome?

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

It's ironic you talk about the need to have balance when you're constantly bashing Mourinho on the forum all the time, even when he has done nothing wrong.

I swear to God. People do read a lot into players' celebrations, don't they? Nothing has been said or written about Oscar falling out with Mourinho (and there's not even a good reason for that to happen) but here you are, stating as though it is fact.

When he has done nothing wrong I never said anything when he has a fault I point is out like his tactic occasionly or behavior like recently. If I was a matchday going supporter sure showing balance is easy, but on internet forums how can you show balance?

As for the celebrations yes it usually have a point, he used to be happy everytime he scored for 3 years with us. It is a new thing that is probably only beginning, obviously nothing will be said about it. Lets see if this remains the case when Jose inevitably drop him for Ramires against City this Sunday. Actually there is a very good reason for their fallout, such as Jose not trusting him in our biggest games and hence making him feels like he is not one our of most important player anymore. It is not fact yet but it is pretty clear for all to see.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

Mourinho wouldn't have said and done a thing about the physios if we were winning 2-1 (or more) when Hazard called for medical attention...

According to jose, we could concede a goal cos we left only with 9 players...

so 2-1 is still dangerous.

[Jase 43,479]

When he has done nothing wrong I never said anything when he has a fault I point is out like his tactic occasionly or behavior like recently. If I was a matchday going supporter sure showing balance is easy, but on internet forums how can you show balance?

When he does something right, you don't bother praising him. When he does something wrong, you come straight out of your shell and throw all sorts of criticism in his direction.

As for the celebrations yes it usually have a point, he used to be happy everytime he scored for 3 years with us. It is a new thing that is probably only beginning, obviously nothing will be said about it. Lets see if this remains the case when Jose inevitably drop him for Ramires against City this Sunday. Actually there is a very good reason for their fallout, such as Jose not trusting him in our biggest games and hence making him feels like he is not one our of most important player anymore. It is not fact yet but it is pretty clear for all to see.

Jose not trusting him in the big games? What nonsense. Posted Oscar's involvement in the big games the other day and he has only missed a few of them (and some of them had to do with injury or poor form).

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Put it this way remember when Guardiola made the fuss with his medical team? The knives were out on here for him from a few members and now Jose has made an issue with two of our medics and people are backing him????

Sorry I get why some people are saying people will blindly follow Jose and back him whatever. If it was Wenger/Pellegrini/Rodgers, it would be a huge fucking problem and people would find it funny they'd hit out at a medic for such a pathetic reason.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

When he does something right, you don't bother praising him. When he does something wrong, you come straight out of your shell and throw all sorts of criticism in his direction.

Jose not trusting him in the big games? What nonsense. Posted Oscar's involvement in the big games the other day and he has only missed a few of them (and some of them had to do with injury or poor form).

Praises don't spur debates, criticism does. Beside everytime he does something right there are at least 10 other posters already praising him, what can I do without basically repeating what they already said? But for criticism hardly anyone speak up because it is unpopular with majority as seen now still defending him.

Dude like I said until after Jan last year he would have played majority of big games under Jose because we just sold Mata and Kevin, with Schurrle out of favor. This trend only started recently when he started to get benched in most big games due to poor form as you said, which basically means drop in his eyes.