The Mourinho Thread

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He also said he wants to start next season like how they started this season, with dominant and attractive football. The thing is, he was in quick adapting to the situation and was not so stubborn to keep on playing the same style without the right players. (Cesc and Diego injured/suspended)

If you're a chef in a kitchen during a cooking competition of 30 minutes, and you see the salt (Cesc) and pepper (Diego) are overdue , would you be stubborn and continue to make that salt and pepper chicken dish, (Rodgers, Wenger) or would you adapt to the situation and make other dishes with the ingedrients you have left? (Mourinho) That's for me, the difference between a normal manager and a brilliant manager.

Chicken, salt and pepper are all well and fine, but what do you do with STALE MILK???!!

[nibal 14]

"If I want to win 1-0, I think I can. One of the easiest things in football is to win 1-0. 'It's not so difficult. You structure your team from the back, you organise your team from the defensive idea, you don't give freedom to your players to express themselves,"

[lionsden 4,689]

As long as there is allowance for such football we will always revert to this as fear/pressure turns up.

And so far, reading, listening, there's allowance for this and it's even APPRECIATED by some.

Also reading Mourinho words from yesterday, he said that we play in 'strategic way' and not 'artistic way' because of Cesc, Matic and Diego injuries/suspensions while we're by far in the best position in terms of missing the players in the last 3 seasons.

That's just future confirmation that Jose, as things stand now, is always going to change to strategic style as soon as situation won't be very comfortable.

Honestly I believe most of the fans who are appear to support this style of football are not necessarily pro negative,shit on a stick football but more pro mourinho. Do you think most of them would still defend this style of football if Rafa was sitting in the dugout instead of Jose? regardless of the result. I don't think so. they know the football is crap themselves but are just pretending to love it as a way of defending Jose.

As for Jose's quote, He''s just talking gibberish as usual. Two of those players Cesc and matic played against United, at the etihad and Anfield all three of them played. And even if what he said was true (which it clearly isn't) what does it say about his mentality if the sun and the moon needs to form a perfect alignment before he can play decent football.

About Jamie Carragher words, I think he's very spot on when says that if you play that style you simply have to win because there's nothing in there besides. If you don't win, there's ground burned to death and that emptiness feeling, like if there will always be dark. The feeling without looking forward about great times that's are surely ahead once this whole thing click.

That's because it is called quick fixes, they have to work quick and effective but surely you can't rely on this more than few seasons.

exactly this. This is what made the game against PSG (both ties), Liverpool carling cup (away) Man city (both ties) and so on so hard to take. we essentially parked the bus and bored the life out of the spectators for nothing

[hjperdeath 2,226]

1 day away, football purists's in full force.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

He also said he wants to start next season like how they started this season, with dominant and attractive football.

He sure wants, Chelsea want, Roman wants and we have to demand this but even when we played artist football in first months in the season as soon as Man City game arrived we changed our approach COMPLETELY, throwing everything to the bin and playing in submission way as usual.

Sure, we can master playing against Crystal Palace and co over the longer period of time but I'm suspicious that we will ever look like big club against good opposition on and about our level.

And the sentence above is not only about being pretty on the eye but also 'winning values', especially when you see the level of top clubs like Bayern, Real and Barca we have some distance to them and they would shit on us even if we would play as dirty as possible.

Mourinho looks first, second and up to tenth place in the preparation how to stop the opposition. He will look on the games again and again how to stop them more, how to constrain this player and that player more. Then it's our offensive play, which usually is about, using Mourinho's words, "expressing yourself" by individual abilities of our players.

On the other hand, Guardiola also is mad about opposition he faces. From the books he stays alone in the TV room and watch opposition on the loop.

But you never have this feeling that he looks only to nullify the opposition but rather look for exploits to up his game.

[LAB 1,030]

Mourinho to Wenger: If defending was easy, you wouldn't lose 3-1 to Monaco

Mourinho saying truths every day. I love his approach regarding the Voyeur.

Great response. Every sentence Jose says there is 100% spot on.

This also proves one more time that Jose normally doesn't speak about others unless they comment about him first. The general consensus that Jose insults others for no reason is wrong, at least nowadays. Even the "specialist in failure", gem of a comment, ( ) last season came after Wenger's comment that Jose is afraid of losing the title.

He is like a cactus. Don't touch and you will not be hurt.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I hope we put 5 past them and have 80% possession but go to a 5-5 draw as we have shabby defending just to shut up all the cunts on here that think Jose 'can't play attacking football', despite the entirety of the first half of the season and a bit of January arguing to the contrary.

Then you can all find out what it's like to be an Arsenal fan.

[Amblève. 4,995]

I hope we put 5 past them and have 80% possession but go to a 5-5 draw as we have shabby defending just to shut up all the cunts on here that think Jose 'can't play attacking football', despite the entirety of the first half of the season and a bit of January arguing to the contrary.

Then you can all find out what it's like to be an Arsenal fan.

Why does playing more offensively always mean losing/drawing and being bad defensively on this forum?

[lionsden 4,689]

Why does playing more offensively always mean losing/drawing and being bad defensively on this forum?

It's ridiculous isn't it?.jose has managed to brainwash some fans into thinking this way.

[Tomo 21,751]

It's ridiculous isn't it?.jose has managed to brainwash some fans into thinking this way.

and Pellegrini, Rodgers, Wenger and the rest of purist fc have brainwashed other's in the complete opposite direction.

Anyway we were playing great football for most of the five months before Christmas.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

and Pellegrini, Rodgers, Wenger and the rest of purist fc have brainwashed other's in the complete opposite direction.

Anyway we were playing great football for most of the five months before Christmas.

You need balance so Bayern atm is a good example. Contrary to popular beliefs they don't just pass around aimlessly anymore but actually play quite direct now when they want to/in big games like against Porto last Wed.

It is annoying how people keep associating everything into either the bus parking class(Simeone, Jose) and purist but useless(Rodger,Pelle,Wenger...etc) while a top manager like Ancelotti/Pep can do both perfectly.

[lionsden 4,689]

and Pellegrini, Rodgers, Wenger and the rest of purist fc have brainwashed other's in the complete opposite direction.

Anyway we were playing great football for most of the five months before Christmas.

What's the other direction? explain. The only way your comment makes any sense is if you make the assertion that these managers have made people believe that it's impossible to win matches against big teams playing defensive football which no one has ever said or insinuated.

The pro park the bus crowd on the other hand try desperately to convince people that playing decent/attacking football against a big or semi decent team is suicidal and will lead to definite defeat hence negative football is the only viable option to get result in this type of matches. How often have we seen or heard comments like "you want us to play good/attacking football and lose". According to them pro active football equals automatic defeat.

[Polo7 3,496]

You need balance so Bayern atm is a good example. Contrary to popular beliefs they don't just pass around aimlessly anymore but actually play quite direct now when they want to/in big games like against Porto last Wed.

It is annoying how people keep associating everything into either the bus parking class(Simeone, Jose) and purist but useless(Rodger,Pelle,Wenger...etc) while a top manager like Ancelotti/Pep can do both perfectly.

Ancelotti and Pep? Lol. We have seen Madrid play amazing football this year have we? And pep is always going for the easier option. Ready made teams, shame he got smacked a few weeks ago.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

What's the other direction? explain. The only way your comment makes any sense is if you make the assertion that these managers have made people believe that it's impossible to win matches against big teams playing defensive football which no one has ever said or insinuated.

The pro park the bus crowd on the other hand try desperately to convince people that playing decent/attacking football against a big or semi decent team is suicidal and will lead to definite defeat hence negative football is the only viable option to get result in this type of matches. How often have we seen or heard comments like "you want us to play good/attacking football and lose". According to them pro active football equals automatic defeat.

Wenger I think made this thinking. But what every manager including Wenger are aiming for is playing like Arsenal have played so far, 8 winning streak and good on the eye too. If he was less stubborn though.

Mourinho's only idea of containing attacking teams is parking the bus - that's what I can't simply understand. Every other team do this by PRESSING while Chelsea have to make the game unwatchable. So far our pressing is poor and disorganised and that's the basic of the basics, the fundament, the platform. Probably the biggest charge on Mourinho is that he didn't learn players a pressing system over those 2 years. When some team surprises people and is able to contain the big team in modern football is always by brilliant pressing system.

Currently our players press individually and not as collective. It doesn't work. That's the main thing we have to improve to get closer to elite.

[Rom2013 446]

You need balance so Bayern atm is a good example. Contrary to popular beliefs they don't just pass around aimlessly anymore but actually play quite direct now when they want to/in big games like against Porto last Wed.

It is annoying how people keep associating everything into either the bus parking class(Simeone, Jose) and purist but useless(Rodger,Pelle,Wenger...etc) while a top manager like Ancelotti/Pep can do both perfectly.

LOL, calling Bayern a balanced team... a team that lost 4-0 at home against Real Madrid, that lost with another 4 to WOlfsburg and was humilliated against Porto. Bayern was a balanced team 3 years ago, you are right... today,,,

About Madrid, you just have to look at Madrid with Mourinho, with that team it's not that hard to play attacking football and win 5-0 or 6-0 against anyone. It's more difficult to win against Barcelona... but humilliate other teams it's really easy.

FOr example in the 2 first seasons of Mouriunho in Madrid here you have some of the games where Madrid scored 4 or more goals and won eith a difference of at least 3 goals.

2010/2011

Real Madrid 6-1 Deportivo

Malaga 1-4 Real Madrid

Real Madrid 6-1 Santander

Real Madrid 5-1 Real Murcia

Real Madrid 5-1 Athletic

Ajax 0-4 Real Madrid

Real Madrid 4-0 Auxerre

Real Madrid 8-0 Levante

Real Madrid 4-1 Real Sociedad

Real Madrid 7-0 Málaga

Real Madrid 4-0 Tottenham

Valencia 3-6 Real Madrid

Sevilla 2-6 Real Madrid

Real Madrid 4-0 Getafe

Real Madrid 8-1 Almeria

2011/2012

Zaragoza 0-6 Real Madrid

Real Madrid 6-2 Rayo Vallecano

Espanyol 0-4 Real Madrid

Real Madrid 4-1 Betis

Real Madrid 4-0 Lyon

Malaga 0-4 Real Madrid

Real Madrid 7-1 Osasuna

Real Madrid 6-2 Dinamo de Zagreb

Real Madrid 4-1 Atletico de Madrid

Sevilla 2-6 Real Madrid

Real Madrid 5-1 Ponferrarina

Real Madrid 4-1 Athletic

Real Madrid 4-0 Racing Santander

Real Madrid 5-1 Espanyol

Osasuna 1-5 Real Madrid

Real Madrid 5-2 Apoel

Atletico de Madrid 1-4 Real Madrid

Real Madrid 4-1 Mallorca

Scary.