The Board

[King Kante 1,474]

On 06/07/2020 at 4:40 PM, Jason said:

 

Interesting. The way he says it, it is clear that Granny must have a serious amount of power. When asked the question he almost laughs. 

For me, this kind of confirms what I have always suspected, the scouts/managers/coaches can recommend players but Granny can veto it or go in another direction. For me, the only reason why things look to be changing is due to Cech being in there.

[killer1257 3,282]

Interesting. The way he says it, it is clear that Granny must have a serious amount of power. When asked the question he almost laughs. 
For me, this kind of confirms what I have always suspected, the scouts/managers/coaches can recommend players but Granny can veto it or go in another direction. For me, the only reason why things look to be changing is due to Cech being in there.

Isn't that obvious? She deals with all the finances. She makes the deals. Of course she can veto it when there is no money to spend or when a player is too expensive and Chelsea has not enough money.



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[King Kante 1,474]

1 minute ago, killer1257 said:

 

 

Isn't that obvious? She deals with all the finances. She makes the deals. Of course she can veto it when there is no money to spend or when a player is too expensive and Chelsea has not enough money.



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I say it is interesting due to the old Conte v Granny arguments. Chelsea fans seem to be split into two camps, with one group believing Granny carried out Conte's instructions and another which believing Conte didn't get any of his first choice players even though he won the league and to say he was responsible for Summer 17 isn't fair. Comments like this indicate that she does have the power to not do what is recommended by those below her. 

[Jase 43,479]

8 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I say it is interesting due to the old Conte v Granny arguments. Chelsea fans seem to be split into two camps, with one group believing Granny carried out Conte's instructions and another which believing Conte didn't get any of his first choice players even though he won the league and to say he was responsible for Summer 17 isn't fair. Comments like this indicate that she does have the power to not do what is recommended by those below her. 

On hindsight, apart from maybe Lukaku, thank god we get what Conte wanted in the second season. 

[Jype 6,398]

13 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I say it is interesting due to the old Conte v Granny arguments. Chelsea fans seem to be split into two camps, with one group believing Granny carried out Conte's instructions and another which believing Conte didn't get any of his first choice players even though he won the league and to say he was responsible for Summer 17 isn't fair. Comments like this indicate that she does have the power to not do what is recommended by those below her. 

Bakayoko was definitely a Conte target. However, Conte wanted to keep Matic too in order to ease Bakayoko into the squad but ended up having to accelerate his introduction because the club sold Matic which Conte didn't like. 

For RWB he wanted Oxlade-Chamberlain and the club even agreed a fee with Arsenal but the player decided to go to Liverpool instead, so not much to do there. Getting Zappacosta as plan B was probably Conte's idea, having managed him before at Italy NT.

For the striker spot he wanted Lukaku (which is even more obvious now given he signed him at Inter) but ended up with Morata. Could be one of many reasons behind this 'failure'. Maybe Marina was just penny pinching and thought there was no rush to pay Everton's asking price with no other contenders for the signing before United came out of the blue and finished it in record time. Or maybe Lukaku & Raiola just preferred the contract offer from United. 

Drinkwater was no doubt a board signing and a total fuck up. And the club failed to back Conte with Alex Sandro signing, which was probably because Alonso had played so well in the title winning season at wing-back and the club were reluctant to spend so much money on another wing-back so soon.

[Tomo 21,733]

58 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I say it is interesting due to the old Conte v Granny arguments. Chelsea fans seem to be split into two camps, with one group believing Granny carried out Conte's instructions and another which believing Conte didn't get any of his first choice players even though he won the league and to say he was responsible for Summer 17 isn't fair. Comments like this indicate that she does have the power to not do what is recommended by those below her. 

It was a mix of the two, yes Conte didn't get his first choice targets but the way people try and act like he had those transfers forced on him in that second season is hilarious, I mean he's actively trying/tried to resign two of those players at Inter for God sake.

In hindsight we should have probably gone our separate ways after the title regardless of the outrage it would have caused in the terraces.

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

1 hour ago, Jype said:

Bakayoko was definitely a Conte target. However, Conte wanted to keep Matic too in order to ease Bakayoko into the squad but ended up having to accelerate his introduction because the club sold Matic which Conte didn't like. 

For RWB he wanted Oxlade-Chamberlain and the club even agreed a fee with Arsenal but the player decided to go to Liverpool instead, so not much to do there. Getting Zappacosta as plan B was probably Conte's idea, having managed him before at Italy NT.

For the striker spot he wanted Lukaku (which is even more obvious now given he signed him at Inter) but ended up with Morata. Could be one of many reasons behind this 'failure'. Maybe Marina was just penny pinching and thought there was no rush to pay Everton's asking price with no other contenders for the signing before United came out of the blue and finished it in record time. Or maybe Lukaku & Raiola just preferred the contract offer from United. 

Drinkwater was no doubt a board signing and a total fuck up. And the club failed to back Conte with Alex Sandro signing, which was probably because Alonso had played so well in the title winning season at wing-back and the club were reluctant to spend so much money on another wing-back so soon.

We made a couple of offers for Alex Sandro. Juve wanted way to much money in the end. Ox didn't want to play for Conte. Lukaku spent his summer holiday with Pogba back then and they probably made a deal to play together. Naingolan didn't want to leave Italy. Even in January VVD rejected us and City for Liverpool. 

So for all these players no one really to blame. It was just frustrating situation. 

[Jase 43,479]

11 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

We made a couple of offers for Alex Sandro. Juve wanted way to much money in the end. Ox didn't want to play for Conte. Lukaku spent his summer holiday with Pogba back then and they probably made a deal to play together. Naingolan didn't want to leave Italy. Even in January VVD rejected us and City for Liverpool. 

So for all these players no one really to blame. It was just frustrating situation. 

Van Dijk and Oxlade-Chamberlain rejected us because of our instability, the fact that we keep on changing managers. The same can't be said about Liverpool. So we paid the price of our constant hiring and firing of managers. Furthermore, I am not sure if Conte even got in contact with Van Dijk to persuade him to join us, like what Lampard did with Ziyech and Werner. 

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

On 10/07/2020 at 11:42 PM, Jason said:

Van Dijk and Oxlade-Chamberlain rejected us because of our instability, the fact that we keep on changing managers. The same can't be said about Liverpool. So we paid the price of our constant hiring and firing of managers. Furthermore, I am not sure if Conte even got in contact with Van Dijk to persuade him to join us, like what Lampard did with Ziyech and Werner. 

Tbf Chamberlain was wanted by Conte so he could mould him into a wingback, he had been playing there for Arsenal. While he may of gotten to play CM for Liverpool and won a CL and PL I wouldnt be surprised if they do not strengthen in MF again meaning he could be on his bike very shortly. Hes hardly been an outstanding player for Lpool hes done the same at Arsenal, fits and starts then injured most of the time.

[killer1257 3,282]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jul/19/michael-emenalo-the-narrative-that-white-is-good-has-to-change

I do not know where to put that article, so I put it here. Very nice article about Emenalo.
Loved him when he was at Chelsea. He made our youth better and he was the reason why guys like KDB, Lukaku, Salah, Hazard were brought in. Great article

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[NikkiCFC 7,942]

Yes, good job before. But his last transfer window was: Bakayoko, Rudiger, Morata, Drinkwater, Zappacosta.

Dont know how much was this on him but that was worst transfer window in history.

[Jype 6,398]

I have a feeling Emenalo's departure had something to do with the transfer ban situation.Him leaving came so out of the blue and it wasn't long after that it was reported the club was being investigated by FIFA for the rule breaches. My theory is that behind the scenes Emenalo took the blame and resigned as a result. Could be wrong though. 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

4 hours ago, Jype said:

I have a feeling Emenalo's departure had something to do with the transfer ban situation.Him leaving came so out of the blue and it wasn't long after that it was reported the club was being investigated by FIFA for the rule breaches. My theory is that behind the scenes Emenalo took the blame and resigned as a result. Could be wrong though. 

The club's position is that it was punished for operating in exactly the same way as many other clubs who were not punished. This is still being considered because the FA has appealed against their sanction and, if that is overturned, then there is no way CAS could avoid also overturning Chelsea's. The upshot of all of this is that Chelsea do not believe they did anything wrong, the FA do not believe Chelsea did anything wrong, and the CAS decision on our appeal went so decidedly in our favour that maybe they don't really think Chelsea did anything wrong either.

If we believed all along that we operated within the rules, then there would have been nothing to blame Michael Emenalo for.

[Jase 43,479]

More details on the finances in this tweet thread...

 

[Milan 17,853]

There was a big interview with Petr Cech for the Czech press a few days ago, here are some most interesting bits -

On last season - 'We met the primary target which was the Champions League qualification. The FA Cup final defeat to Arsenal hit us hard, though. Finishing the season with a trophy would be a different story. However, we managed to stand the test in difficult moments and laid the foundations for the next season. We will get only stronger and believe we will get much closer to the positions where we actually want to be.'

On his new duties - 'It is such a huge difference, it is no longer just your training session. The academy, scouting system, first team, loan system... I had to make sure I can work and co-operate in multiple levels. It is taking much more time than when I was just a goalkeeper.'

On dealing with players from other clubs - 'Being a former player myself, I understand other players' thinking and that helps a lot when I talk to Chelsea transfer targets. They are aware of my past achievements so it is easier to convince them that Chelsea are the right choice for their next career step.'

On big money transfers before the season - 'Under some certain circumstances, some big money transfers may happen. However, there will be rather player swaps and loans. The current situation is highly unpredictable when it comes to financial impacts on clubs.'

On Kepa - 'Without any doubt, Kepa did not have a good season. He was a big money signing and has a long-term contract, though. The club still believe in him. There will be new signings for sure, maybe even between the sticks. There are ongoing discussions in this matter. Nobody at the club is writting him off, we all are still hoping he will have a big future. The transfer window is open until October this year so there will be a lot of changes when the leagues are already underway.'

On financial impacts on the club itself - 'Chelsea are on of the few clubs that did not fire a single employee and paid everyone 100 %. That was the owner's decision. He wanted to help every single member of the organization in this difficult period of time and wanted everyone to feel safe. There was a financial loss obviously, but we believe we will recover. It was a wonderful gesture that was appreciated by the employees and I believe they will appreciate it even more later on. It was also a great image for the club.'

On fans returning to stadiums - 'While maintaining certain conditions, I full support the idea of fans returning to the stadiums. They are already allowed to go to pubs or shopping malls so I see no reason why stadiums should be different. They are also in the open space.'

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

@Milan Thanks for this interview!

[Jase 43,479]

A detailed explanation on our summer spending and FFP...

 

[Fernando 6,453]

Club is very smart.