stroey 2,525 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Fuckin rags http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/8/13/9145809/chelsea-manchester-united-john-stones-transfer-rumourYep and:Could Nicolas Otamendi head to Man City after Man United drop interesthttp://www.espnfc.co.uk/blog/transfer-talk/79/post/2561370/nicolas-otamendi-to-man-city-john-stones-to-man-united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Hummels is laughably overrated. Like Luiz he's incredibly gifted with the ball at his feet, he has his fair share of "monster" games where he destroys everything in his path but he's simply too error prone. Because he doesn't have extravagant hair/personality, play(ed) for a club that's where every error is scrutinized & is in a relatively quiet League his frequent mistakes are swept under the rug. Dortmund were so bad defensively last season that they flirted with relegation yet his reputation has largely gone unscathed. His performance against Wolfsburg in the German Cup final for example is one of the worst you'll ever see from such a highly rated defender.He isn't a bad player but Stones will be far better in the long run for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Alex loves the D confirmed.You know you love it!!Busted.Hummels is laughably overrated. Like Luiz he's incredibly gifted with the ball at his feet, he has his fair share of "monster" games where he destroys everything in his path but he's simply too error prone. Because he doesn't have extravagant hair/personality, play(ed) for a club that's where every error is scrutinized & is in a relatively quiet League his frequent mistakes are swept under the rug. Dortmund were so bad defensively last season that they flirted with relegation yet his reputation has largely gone unscathed. His performance against Wolfsburg in the German Cup final for example is one of the worst you'll ever see from such a highly rated defender.He isn't a bad player but Stones will be far better in the long run for me.Totally agree, with all due respect to Dortmund there is a reason he isn't playing at a giant club; it's because he's overrated as a defender and actually is overshadowed at national level by Mertesacker, IMO. For some reason Hummels would be at least a £50 million signing but I would go as far as saying he isn't as good as Cahill in terms of pure 7/10 consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 There's only one German defender I'd take over Hummels and that's Boateng. Hummels is a worldclass quarterback but as a CB Boateng is on another level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 He's also weirdly good-looking, definite "weird man-crush" material. Which is a bonus as the majority of our squad is fugly. That is what passes as good-looking in England? Jesus Christ. Standards are getting low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 agree BUT we need 2 defenders as well we can't have it all, focus on attack should be priority. we already had best defence last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,503 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 There's only one German defender I'd take over Hummels and that's Boateng. Hummels is a worldclass quarterback but as a CB Boateng is on another level.I'd take Howedes over Hummels due to his versatility and leadership traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,701 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 That is what passes as good-looking in England? Jesus Christ. Standards are getting low.England isn't lucky enough to have fine looking Australians like myself and you walking around. Let them have this one... and the Ashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Martinez again said today in his presser that Stones is not for sale and "thats the end of it".Move on then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MefiX19 1,092 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 So this topic startet to getting into Mourinho topic, where everyone is arguing about Eva and Mour, but here instead about Hummels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 as good as Cahill in terms of pure 7/10 consistency. Maybe once but I dont think I've given him 7/10 more than a couple of times last season.To me hes looking a shadow of himself. He looks thin/weak/grey with hollow cheeks. He looks like Shurrle on a bad day.Seems like the medias picked up on my thoughts of a part ex with Johnny Evans and cash.Theyre reading the site for ideas guys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 John Stones: Everton defender not for sale - Roberto Martinezhttp://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33681892i think we should buy Aymeric Laporte instead now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 lads whos better john stones or Aymeric Laporte??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 He should cry all he want he loss the plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 So Martinez has just said the same thing he's been saying? Nothing has changed has it?Bid the 34m and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If we really need a CB then why has it become a case of John Stones or bust???? Come on Chelsea sort yourselves out now. Getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 So Martinez has just said the same thing he's been saying? Nothing has changed has it?Bid the 34m and see what happens.how can you pay £34m for a player who cant get on the england starting line up hes a good player but hes not worth £34m english players are so overpriced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If we really need a CB then why has it become a case of John Stones or bust???? Come on Chelsea sort yourselves out now. Getting ridiculous.buy Aymeric Laporte instead they are looking to much for stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 how can you pay £34m for a player who cant get on the england starting line up hes a good player but hes not worth £34m english players are so overpricedWhether or not a player is in the England first XI means nothing. Phil fucking Jones starts for England and he's a shit player.The price is definitely crazy but that's what the market is these days. Either we buy him for that or City/United will soon. I'd rather see him become the next JT or Ferdinand at Chelsea than one of our rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 £30m for Mangala.£34m for Stones.Makes sense to me, get him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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