Rumoured John Stones

[BlueLyon 9,359]

What is gimenez release clause? Bayern get ridiculous bargains, but Gimenez would cost a lot. Atletico are doing well and are a euro power now so they don't need to sell. Not to mention Gimenez is a starter now. He would cost a fortune.

I only found his clause from summer 2014 which was 20m. But I think he signed new contract since.

[iseah100 5,612]

I only found his clause from summer 2014 which was 20m. But I think he signed new contract since.

Which means it's probably now 60-80m and Atletico would force any club to pay that to get him.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

In what sense is Gimenez twice better than Stones?

In football sense. I saw both and to me Gimenez is better. Quite alot better. Already established in top club, and puts a great performances there. Same in uruguay nt.

He is more complete and reliable, has a warrior mentality and goes on every ball. Not as good as Stones with the ball at his feet, but better in everything else tbh. Tackling, positioning, heading, mentality (quite agressive for a Cb, but not too much, which I like).

Thats just my opinion from what I saw. I wouldnt pay 30m for either, but if I had to it would be Gimenez for all football reasons and Stones for his nationality.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

I think Jose will get him.

Next summer.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

I think Jose will get him.

Next summer.

Now or Never.

[Jase 43,479]

The funny thing is, we can actually spend 30-35m on Stones and still buy 1-2 top quality midfielders but we're handicapping ourselves because the board likes profit so much all of a sudden and has decided to be stingy with the money. It's like we have suddenly appointed Wenger to be our financial adviser.

[Pizy 18,897]

The funny thing is, we can actually spend 30-35m on Stones and still buy 1-2 top quality midfielders but we're handicapping ourselves because the board likes profit so much all of a sudden and has decided to be stingy with the money. It's like we have suddenly appointed Wenger to be our financial adviser.

Remember how excited we all were here when it was estimated that we could easily spend £130m or something a few months back? And that was apparently a conservative estimate.

All that money from winning the league, all that new Yokohama & Adidas money, and the incomprehensible new TV money about to kick in and we NOW choose to be frugal with our money.

I think internally José is fuming with the lack of business and that if it were all up to him we'd have a handful of new players.

[lucio 5,418]

He's looked more physically imposing I think, but that's about it. He gives away a lot of fouls and his passing leaves a lot to be desired. I would be very surprised if Mourinho chose Zouma to partner Terry or Cahill over Stones should he sign. Besides, given the age of Terry and Cahill, Mourinho probably has his eye on a future Zouma/Stones partnership anyway. Personally I think though that Chelsea will not compromise their position on getting value for money, and will end up losing him to United, assuming they need him come the end of the window.

I can't remember zoumas passing putting us in trouble. And he actually played some decent crossfield ball's , he looks like someone who can't pass , but he can, kind of. Wouldn't have coped in midfield otherwise

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

The funny thing is, we can actually spend 30-35m on Stones and still buy 1-2 top quality midfielders but we're handicapping ourselves because the board likes profit so much all of a sudden and has decided to be stingy with the money. It's like we have suddenly appointed Wenger to be our financial adviser.

Our board wants Profit

Arsenal Played like chelsea

[Jase 43,479]

Remember how excited we all were here when it was estimated that we could easily spend £130m or something a few months back? And that was apparently a conservative estimate.

All that money from winning the league, all that new Yokohama & Adidas money, and the incomprehensible new TV money about to kick in and we NOW choose to be frugal with our money.

I think internally José is fuming with the lack of business and that if it were all up to him we'd have a handful of new players.

And we also seem to be afraid of the FFP for whatever reason. We are nowhere near breaching any of the rules and it's even more infuriating that we are scared when the likes of PSG, United, City have made a mockery of it.

[zolayes 14,489]

still almost a month to go ,, we can still sign Pogba Messi and Ronaldo

[Pizy 18,897]

And we also seem to be afraid of the FFP for whatever reason. We are nowhere near breaching any of the rules and it's even more infuriating that we are scared when the likes of PSG, United, City have made a mockery of it.

This is what makes me the most mad. We're acting like a small club with this sell in order to buy policy.

It's well and good to have a small squad but only if the backup players are adequate replacements for the starters. We have a small squad and the quality between the starters and backups is a chasm in some areas.

It would be disastrous if Matic or Cesc went down injured for a long spell. This has been known for ages and yet we're content with Ramires and Mikel who are light years from Matic and Cesc in terms of quality. We still have only a couple of reliable sources for goals. And one of them is now injured for who knows how long.

I think the team as currently constituted can easily hold its own in the PL. Think we'd get destroyed by the best 3-4 sides in Europe though.

[robsblubot 3,595]

And we also seem to be afraid of the FFP for whatever reason. We are nowhere near breaching any of the rules and it's even more infuriating that we are scared when the likes of PSG, United, City have made a mockery of it.

It can't be it

Reckon we are using FFP rules as an excuse, but they are not the cause of our lack of movement in the window.

[zolayes 14,489]

we could spend a 100 million and still be safe from FFP

[Jase 43,479]

It can't be it

Reckon we are using FFP rules as an excuse, but they are not the cause of our lack of movement in the window.

It's not an excuse. It's a factor for our lack of transfer activity. Ever since the FFP came out, the club have been keen on complying to the rules, controlling our spending, which is fair but it has gotten till the point of handicapping ourselves.

[robsblubot 3,595]

It's not an excuse. It's a factor for our lack of transfer activity. Ever since the FFP came out, the club have been keen on complying to the rules, controlling our spending, which is fair but it has gotten till the point of handicapping ourselves.

True but my point is do we choose to comply to them because we believe they are going be enforced - evidence says otherwise - or because it just happens to be the way we roll anyway so Jose moans about all other clubs who ignore the rules.

[Jase 43,479]

True but my point is do we choose to comply to them because we believe they are going be enforced - evidence says otherwise - or because it just happens to be the way we roll anyway so Jose moans about all other clubs who ignore the rules.

It goes hand-in-hand in some ways and we all know the FFP isn't going to be enforced after what UEFA did with the rules few months ago.

[quickpassnmove 924]

The funny thing is, we can actually spend 30-35m on Stones and still buy 1-2 top quality midfielders but we're handicapping ourselves because the board likes profit so much all of a sudden and has decided to be stingy with the money. It's like we have suddenly appointed Wenger to be our financial adviser.

Soooo.... that means we'll probably wait 3 years until we get another CM to accompany the quality of player we have in Matic? ohhhhhh Arsenal --I mean Chelsea.

I am, however, glad the Rahman is coming. good news. we'll see what the rest of August brings.

[Jase 43,479]

Chelsea transfer news: Everton fears grow over defender John Stones as bidding heads towards £30m mark

Everton are growing increasingly concerned that they will fail to stop John Stones joining Chelsea, despite manager Roberto Martinez’s insistence that the central defender is not for sale.

Chelsea are preparing a third bid of around £30 million for Stones, despite Martinez repeating his desire to keep the 21-year-old at Goodison Park.

While Martinez is demonstrating a brave front, Everton insiders fear that the club will ultimately be forced to let Stones move to Stamford Bridge once Chelsea go over the £30 million mark.

Everton are already closing in on one senior central defender to join the club, with Manchester United’s Jonny Evans, Celtic’s Virgil van Dijk and Swansea City’s Ashley Williams all among their targets.

It is also understood that Everton are looking at younger options, as they attempt to plan for the possibility of Stones leaving.

...the Blues have a clear career plan for the England international.

Should they succeed in their bid, then Chelsea will give Stones encouragement that he would make at least 30 appearances this season with the view to eventually succeeding captain John Terry.

Chelsea have already displayed their faith in Stones by making him their one big transfer target of the summer and believe he could be a key player for the next decade.

[Pizy 18,897]

Just get it fucking done and let's get excited for the new season.