Rumoured John Stones

[supporter 3,088]

It's sad but there are only 3 videos in youtube with all the plays in the match of John Stones. Most of us know him, but if someone wants to know something more, these videos can be good.

1. John Stones vs Fulham.

2. John Stones vs Cardiff City 13-14 HD 720p.

3. John Stones vs Juventus.

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1. John Stones - Everton - Skills & Tackles | HD 2013/2014 Defending skills.

2. John Stones - Goals, Skills, Tackles - Ultimate Skills Show 2015 HD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULu0FFZOn18

3. John Stones | Defensive Skills | Everton FC 2015 HD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doxR2RhFnQE

Regards to ALL.

[Strike 7,295]

It is a slight overpayment but Everton doesn't have to sell him. We have to make them a compelling offer. In the end the money doesn't really matter to us anyway, its about getting the right player. If you can see why everyone likes him then you can also see why no one is all that fussed over a slight overpayment.

It is a significant overpayment

[cfcs most wanted 657]

Mourinho confirms he will get stones whatever it may cost

[11Drogba 2,000]

Everton is worse than Napoli unless you want to overpay like the manure.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Agreed. He has potential but still very raw. Stones as of now is far ahead in his developmental curve. As I've already said in this thread, he should be loaned out if Stones signs. A season as an undisputed starter in the Premier League should do him the world of good. Stones & Zouma 2/3 years down the line could potentially be as good as Carvalho & Terry years back.

Really not sure about that. Ricardo Carvalho is the only defender I've seen who I'd say is a better all-round centre-back than Terry, so I would say that sort of comparison is slightly above what Stones-Zouma could achieve. But, they're young, and as long as they're given opportunities, but at the same time not thrown in at the deep end, and they're surrounded by experience (JT, Ivanovic, Azpi, etc.), then they could at least blossom into a fruitful partnership that equals the current Cahill-Terry pairing.

And do we really try and sign every player that JT or Branna get in a fight with?

[Madmax 9,219]

Always thought Martinez was a pretentious twat so good to see Mourinho put him in his place.

[Unionjack 7,531]

I think its a no brainer and we should just get him. And if he can get in Banes face hes made of Chelsea stuff. This write up says it all for me http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2015/7/19/8999249/chelsea-fc-transfer-target-john-stones-rio-ferdinand-fee

[Chelsea4 1,521]

You are fine with paying 30m for a 20 year old?

Azpi: 7m

Cahill: 7m

Ivanovic: 9.7m

Zouma: 12m

Luis: 15m

That's what a a proper defender goes for.

United just signed Darmian for 12.7m.

English teams sell young players at a ridiculous price.

I'd buy young European prospects at the 10-20m price range, and buy established English players for homegrown quota after they've had their 15m fee for potential future ability tax taken off.

30m is ridiculous. we laughed at PSG paying 40m for Luiz, who was a Brazil International, Champions League winner, and a big part of our team already, both as a CDM and as CB.

This is a joke.

Stones is a awesome player and Man utd bought shit for 12.7 we need Stones there are not many good defenders right now.

[Unionjack 7,531]

Really not sure about that. Ricardo Carvalho is the only defender I've seen who I'd say is a better all-round centre-back than Terry, so I would say that sort of comparison is slightly above what Stones-Zouma could achieve. But, they're young, and as long as they're given opportunities, but at the same time not thrown in at the deep end, and they're surrounded by experience (JT, Ivanovic, Azpi, etc.), then they could at least blossom into a fruitful partnership that equals the current Cahill-Terry pairing.

And do we really try and sign every player that JT or Branna get in a fight with?

You only get into scraps with guys who think they are hard enough to get under your skin and push you that far.

The way I see it is if a 20 year old kid has balls big enough to have a go at 2 of our toughest lads and get in their faces then we sign the bugga up quick smart!

[CHOULO19 24,332]

And do we really try and sign every player that JT or Branna get in a fight with?

Tbf, that looks less like a fight and more like they're about to start ball room dancing...

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

If Jose said that we're interested and Martinez not ruled it out immediately, it means he is afraid of making Stones unhappy. If the player want the move, they will let him go in the end.

[Essien19 1,415]

Stones will do what is best for his family. He smart and knows that he is a fan favorite at Goodison Park and already earning good money.
He is only 21 years old and his career is ahead of him, he doesn't have to rush making a decision...
I think one of his goals is playing in the Euros 2016, therefore he needs to be a starter for a Premier-League Club, i don't know if Jose can guarantee him that. Same goes for Zouma, but John Terry's place is out of question in the Chelsea Team. One of the guys will fall by the wayside...

I would love having John Stones at Chelsea, no harm meant!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

If we are going to pay 30m+ on Stones and get rid of Zouma, fuck off.

Im more surprised people here are so happy and exciting despite knowing Stones will cost 30m fucking pounds, yet are laughing at Sterling in another thread for same reasons.

A world class CB costs between 30-40m, even if Stones has huge potential, thats a big rip off, considering we already have same if not better young CB in Zouma.

Only good is that he is English but as far I know 90% people didnt give fuck if Sterling is english, so didnt want him here, but now, same people are suddenly excited we will have english prospect.

30m pounds for Stones who plays for everton. He is promising but not that promising.

And how the f are we going to give two young CBs regular playtime? Under Mou? Sure Zouma or Stones will go on loan or wont play at all unless Terry gets injured, god forbid.

[RhesusReus 219]

If we are going to pay 30m+ on Stones and get rid of Zouma, fuck off.

Im more surprised people here are so happy and exciting despite knowing Stones will cost 30m fucking pounds, yet are laughing at Sterling in another thread for same reasons.

A world class CB costs between 30-40m, even if Stones has huge potential, thats a big rip off, considering we already have same if not better young CB in Zouma.

Only good is that he is English but as far I know 90% people didnt give fuck if Sterling is english, so didnt want him here, but now, same people are suddenly excited we will have english prospect.

30m pounds for Stones who plays for everton. He is promising but not that promising.

And how the f are we going to give two young CBs regular playtime? Under Mou? Sure Zouma or Stones will go on loan or wont play at all unless Terry gets injured, god forbid.

They think they are buying Terry 2.0. That's the problem. Not every good, young Spanish defender is the next Puyol. Not every good, young Italian defender is the next Maldini.

This idea that we are going to replace Terry with another English player, who will simply carry on the tradition, is just stupid. There isn't going to be another Terry at the club. Nothing about John Stones says he'll be anything like a John Terry type of player.

They are willing to pay 18m extra for the idea that Stones will bring with him the intangibles Terry possess. Rubbish. The next Chelsea leader will be in a different mold. We've evolved as a club from the time Terry came through. There are plenty of players already at the club that embody the new Chelsea. We don't need to have an English CB leading the team to be Chelsea.

Once they remove this idea from their heads, John Stones becomes just another young prospect. We paid 12 million for Zouma. Now, we are suddenly willing to pay 30m+ for Stones. Ridiculous.

[Tomo 21,736]

They think they are buying Terry 2.0. That's the problem. Not every good, young Spanish defender is the next Puyol. Not every good, young Italian defender is the next Maldini.

This idea that we are going to replace Terry with another English player, who will simply carry on the tradition is just stupid. There isn't going to be another Terry at the club. Nothing about John Stones says he'll be anything like a John Terry type of player.

They are willing to pay 18m extra for the idea that Stones will bring with him the intangibles Terry possess. Rubbish. The next Chelsea leader will be in a different mold. We've evolved as a club from the time Terry came through. There are plenty of players that embody the new Chelsea. We don't need to have a English CB leading the team to be Chelsea.

Once they remove this idea from their heads, John Stones because just another young prospect. We paid 12 million for Zouma. Now, we are suddenly willing to pay 30m+ for Stones. Ridiculous.

How do you know that? This "long term replacement for this and that" are media riddled cliches.

The brutal reality is we lack a HG spine, and for any club in world football that is crucial for the identity and culture, when people though of Chelsea in the 00's they though of Lampard, J.Cole, Terry, A.Cole, when people thought of Milan in the same period it was Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Gattuso.

Now we are running short off that and its crucial to rebuild that identity, RLC and Stones is a very good start, now Stones seems to be a victim of the tendency to assume all young English players are overhyped, at one point they were but now its gone too far the other way, Stones is a very good young centre back who is only going to get better, even ignoring the fact the HG core needs boosting and he is probably the best available option, he is a very good potentially top class player for the next decade.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

They think they are buying Terry 2.0. That's the problem. Not every good, young Spanish defender is the next Puyol. Not every good, young Italian defender is the next Maldini.

This idea that we are going to replace Terry with another English player, who will simply carry on the tradition, is just stupid. There isn't going to be another Terry at the club. Nothing about John Stones says he'll be anything like a John Terry type of player.

They are willing to pay 18m extra for the idea that Stones will bring with him the intangibles Terry possess. Rubbish. The next Chelsea leader will be in a different mold. We've evolved as a club from the time Terry came through. There are plenty of players already at the club that embody the new Chelsea. We don't need to have an English CB leading the team to be Chelsea.

Once they remove this idea from their heads, John Stones becomes just another young prospect. We paid 12 million for Zouma. Now, we are suddenly willing to pay 30m+ for Stones. Ridiculous.

Not that I have something against Stones signing, its not my money and could turn into next Terry if miracle happens, but the board wasnt ready to pay 50 for Sterling, yet they want 30 on Stones. And Sterling is attacker, more proven and better player now than Stones.

Worse is that same people who ridiculed City and Sterling for that fee are now for Stones signing even if it costs 40m in the end. Thats just funny and sad at same time.

If we are ready to throw 30/40m for Stones ok, but why are we not prepared to do so for Vidal or whoever similar is beyond me.

[Spike 12,049]

Stones is a awesome player and Man utd bought shit for 12.7 we need Stones there are not many good defenders right now.

Darmian is shit; i.e. "I haven't seen him play". If otherwise, explain why the player claimed as 'Italy's best fullback' is a shit.

Of course there are good defenders out there. Many of them; not every player is or has to be Franz Beckenbauer or Franco Baresi to be considered good.

[RhesusReus 219]

How do you know that? This "long term replacement for this and that" are media riddled cliches.

The brutal reality is we lack a HG spine, and for any club in world football that is crucial for the identity and culture, when people though of Chelsea in the 00's they though of Lampard, J.Cole, Terry, A.Cole, when people thought of Milan in the same period it was Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Gattuso.

Now we are running short off that and its crucial to rebuild that identity, RLC and Stones is a very good start, now Stones seems to be a victim of the tendency to assume all young English players are overhyped, at one point they were but now its gone too far the other way, Stones is a very good young centre back who is only going to get better, even ignoring the fact the HG core needs boosting and he is probably the best available option, he is a very good potentially top class player for the next decade

That's all fine. But it doesn't mean we have to pay 30m+ to get an English CB. 00s was the Golden Generation of English football. If you look now, where are the Lampard, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole, Gerrard, Scholes, and Rooney?

English football is at a low point. We already have a strong core in Hazard, Matic, Courtois, Costa, Cesc, and Azpi. That's the new core. We can get English players tat are valued at their true valuation rather than over-paying to get an English core.

Barca in 2006 had 2 Spanish outfield players start their UCL final.

Madrid in 2014 also had 2.

Barca again in 2015 had 3.

This idea that we have to have an English core is out-dated. Players move around Europe at a young age now.