Rumoured John Stones

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

It'll be interesting to see what are we gonna do now. Not having any other player coming to us, until the transfer window closes, would be quite a bit discouraging. I do hope we have a plan b, the defender from monaco, that i can't spell correctly would be interesting, many on here are suggesting Laporte, that would be a dream, however a question comes to my mind: why didn't we go for him from the beginning if we were ready to offer 37m for Stones? Surely Laporte has more quality in him right now than Stones.
It'll be also interesting to see what we are gonna do for the midfield, as things stand right now, i'm quite worried for our form. I hope the lads will wake up soon and will start performing like last season.

[RhesusReus 219]

It's either Stones or Garay by the look of things. We will definitely be adding another CB to our ranks before next Tuesday.

Doesn't matter so long as Ivanovic is RB.

[Pizy 18,368]

No. You said: how likely are Athletic to sell if we truggered the clause.

Athletic have no say. If we trigger the clause they must sell.

Your're still missing my point here. If we triggered Messi's release clause that doesn't automatically mean he'll be a Chelsea player. He'd have to WANT to come here.

If we go to Athletic tomorrow and trigger the clause he's not suddenly a Chelsea player.

[RhesusReus 219]

It's me or you not understand my point?

What? You claim Athletic wont sell players they dont want to. I am telling you they have no power in release clauses.

[Special Juan 27,429]

So, this guy isn't bothered at all by the fact he could make double per week what he's making now? Or play in the advanced stages of the Champions League instead of Europa? Train under Jose and JT, not Martinez and Jakigelka? Also, Everton just want to fuck with CFC, they're lucky to get an offer in excess of 35m, if United offered that they'd insisit he go for cheaper, yet they refuse the offer, why? Cause of their bitchy manager. Oh well, let Stones rot and a declining club.

I'm sure Stones is bothered by the fact he could earn more and win loads with us, it's not him, he's done everything he can to try and make this move possible. In the same sentence Martinez, Kenwright and the whole Everton board have made a stance now, it's egg on their face time if they back track now.

[Stats 7,056]

The top comment in the Daily Mail article is bang on...

Also, Everton are basically valuing him as a 150k a week player, but probably pay him only 30-60k a week. How does that work then?

Yeah, well he is only on £30k p/w. If he does indeed stay there over the transfer window, don't be surprised to see him offered a new contract. Not because it shows a sign of intention but more because he will demand a much biggwe wage packet despite his contract expriring in 4 years time.

So, this guy isn't bothered at all by the fact he could make double per week what he's making now? Or play in the advanced stages of the Champions League instead of Europa? Train under Jose and JT, not Martinez and Jakigelka? Also, Everton just want to fuck with CFC, they're lucky to get an offer in excess of 35m, if United offered that they'd insisit he go for cheaper, yet they refuse the offer, why? Cause of their bitchy manager. Oh well, let Stones rot and a declining club.

Everton aren't in Europa League at all.

[supporter 3,088]

About Laporte: his buyout clause is 50 million euros (36.52 million pounds). This is for Spanish teams and also for foreign teams because, in legal terms, it is the player himself (Laporte, in this case) who pays those 50 million euros.

It is a legal question. Laporte go to the official Seat of La Liga and he deposited those 50 million euros. And he (Laporte) and the club which receives money (Athletic de Bilbao) have to pay 45% more to the Spanish services tax of taxes added.

But this never happens. At the end all the teams reach an agreement on the price set at the buyout clause because the final% is lower in this type of agreement.

Laporte would cost 50 million euros (36.52 million pounds). And it is a good option, but perhaps Stones is better for being English and being adapted to Premier League football.

By the way, sorry for my English, I hope I explained well.

[iseah100 5,612]

Everton aren't in Europa League at all.

Last year i mean.

I'm sure Stones is bothered by the fact he could earn more and win loads with us, it's not him, he's done everything he can to try and make this move possible. In the same sentence Martinez, Kenwright and the whole Everton board have made a stance now, it's egg on their face time if they back track now.

He's not done enough. If he really wanted to move he could do what Modric did and refuse to report to training.

[RhesusReus 219]

Your're still missing my point here. If we triggered Messi's release clause that doesn't automatically mean he'll be a Chelsea player. He'd have to WANT to come here.

If we go to Athletic tomorrow and trigger the clause he's not suddenly a Chelsea player.

Which is why I told you that Laporte would probably come.

You should have said: "how likely is Laporte to agree to come if we triggered his clause." And not: "how likely is Athletic to sell if we triggered the clause."

[LAM09 6,751]

Doesn't matter so long as Ivanovic is RB.

I hope that's a joke. He should be either playing as a CB or on the bench. Azpi and Baba should be our regular fullbacks this season.

[Mechromancer 262]

What? You claim Athletic wont sell players they dont want to. I am telling you they have no power in release clauses.

Yeah, i mean, does not exist a negotiation with another club. The club doesn't have an initiative to sell. They don't want to.

[Special Juan 27,429]

Last year i mean.

He's not done enough. If he really wanted to move he could do what Modric did and refuse to report to training.

A level of professionalism has to remain. Only a few days a go he handed in a transfer request which is a signal of intent and he makes this clear by doing this. He starts in a game against his old team and gets fucking pelters from his own fans. He's doing everything correct here....Playing, appreciating the fans and playing football. The club are treating him unfairly and he's doing quite the opposite.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Chelsea have had an astonishing fourth bid of £37m for John Stones rejected — and could now walk away. #CFC #EFC (Mirror)

Chelsea may now want to give themselves time to pursue one of those alternatives ahead of Tuesday's transfer deadline. #CFC (Mirror)

Stamford Bridge chiefs are understood to be adamant they have done all they can to try to land the centre-back. #CFC (Mirror) overdone it.

Chelsea also do not want the bidding [for John Stones] to reach unrealistic levels. (Mirror) #CFC £37m? Already did.

Chelsea made one last £38m offer to #EFC for John Stones this week, but understood to have dropped interest for now (Independent) #CFC

[iseah100 5,612]

A level of professionalism has to remain. Only a few days a go he handed in a transfer request which is a signal of intent and he makes this clear by doing this. He starts in a game against his old team and gets fucking pelters from his own fans. He's doing everything correct here....Playing, appreciating the fans and playing football. The club are treating him unfairly and he's doing quite the opposite.

While all that may be true, it doesn't mean, and doesn't look like, it'll get hom his move. Unfortunately for Chelsea and Stones. Professionalism should go both ways, it's obvious Everton are refusing to sell to spite Chelsea.

[Special Juan 27,429]

While all that may be true, it doesn't mean, and doesn't look like, it'll get hom his move. Unfortunately for Chelsea and Stones. Professionalism should go both ways, it's obvious Everton are refusing to sell to spite Chelsea.

But if it doesn't happen he can claim he did nothing wrong. He hasn't broken the law by requesting a transfer to better himself, he's continued by playing football and been the consummate pro.

[The Mak 4,459]

Yeah, well he is only on £30k p/w. If he does indeed stay there over the transfer window, don't be surprised to see him offered a new contract. Not because it shows a sign of intention but more because he will demand a much biggwe wage packet despite his contract expriring in 4 years time.

Giving Stones the type of money we would offer would only fuck over Everton's entire wage structure, not to mention piss off a lot of players at the club. Imagine how Jagelka or Baines would feel? Some kid earning more than them just because we were sniffing around him? I'm sure Barkley or Lukaku wouldn't like it either.

If they were to offer him any less, I'm not sure he would sign it. It also depends on his performance in the next few months. I can either see him playing worse and signing a contract as a safety net or playing good and not signing a contract to show he still wants to go to a higher level.

[Jase 43,479]

A level of professionalism has to remain. Only a few days a go he handed in a transfer request which is a signal of intent and he makes this clear by doing this. He starts in a game against his old team and gets fucking pelters from his own fans. He's doing everything correct here....Playing, appreciating the fans and playing football. The club are treating him unfairly and he's doing quite the opposite.

He doesn't need to go full-Sterling but he could/should at least try to force the issue a little more - like get his agent to cause some fuss in the media.

[Mechromancer 262]

About Laporte: his buyout clause is 50 million euros (36.52 million pounds). This is for Spanish teams and also for foreign teams because, in legal terms, it is the player himself (Laporte, in this case) who pays those 50 million euros.

It is a legal question. Laporte go to the official Seat of La Liga and he deposited those 50 million euros. And he (Laporte) and the club which receives money (Athletic de Bilbao) have to pay 45% more to the Spanish services tax of taxes added.

But this never happens. At the end all the teams reach an agreement on the price set at the buyout clause because the final% is lower in this type of agreement.

Laporte would cost 50 million euros (36.52 million pounds). And it is a good option, but perhaps Stones is better for being English and being adapted to Premier League football.

By the way, sorry for my English, I hope I explained well.

So, exist a type of a tacit agreement with the player? Other clubs just need pay the same amount of the release clause, but they never do that? Interesting, because, i remember read something different in RC about the Ander transfer.