Ryan Bertrand

[Thendo 1,088]

Saw some quotes from Mourinho that Ake will be part of the first team as reserve defender now that Bertrand is on loan. Anyone know if he can play LB or is he mainly CB/CDM?

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fair??? Yes it is fair. A playrr like bertrand, ba, essien know the risk of being a squad player in a big team like chelsea, being the 4th choice full back, 3rd choice striker or the 5/6th choice midfiders. Every squad has those players and more than that every squad needs players like these who can fill in the hole once in a whilr, put in a good to average performance and simply do their job. Bertrand was such a playrr.

Oh, so Jose was being fair to Ryan since Ryan understood that he was only ever a squad player who would appear if 3 other players got injured?

Honestly the type of player you're describing doesn't sound like a specialist left-back but more like a John O'Shea who can fill in a multitude of positions if required. I actually think Luiz can fill that role for us as an emergency left or right-back.

Saw some quotes from Mourinho that Ake will be part of the first team as reserve defender now that Bertrand is on loan. Anyone know if he can play LB or is he mainly CB/CDM?

Perfect. Can play full-back in a pinch plus CB and in midfield. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Dutch John O'Shea.

Nathan O'Ake.

[didierforever 7,349]

Oh, so Jose was being fair to Ryan since Ryan understood that he was only ever a squad player who would appear if 3 other players got injured?

Honestly the type of player you're describing doesn't sound like a specialist left-back but more like a John O'Shea who can fill in a multitude of positions if required. I actually think Luiz can fill that role for us as an emergency left or right-back.

Perfect. Can play full-back in a pinch plus CB and in midfield. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Dutch John O'Shea.

Nathan O'Ake.

are we really going to talk semantixs here? While u conviniently left off my main point of squad strength and making up for our lack of strikers thru quality in other areas. But somehow " tha fair" point took precendence. As far as we are on the subject, I expected bertrand to probably start the 3 Coc matcjes, fa cup match, and a couple of league and CL matcjes here or there, specially since cole dint set the league on fire with his performances. So in that ways he was underused. But it would still mean bertrand sitting on the bench for a major part of the season and that is " fair".

And its so weird that u don't have a problem with an 18 year old ask and 20 year old kalas being underused ( or rather not used at all), rather than bertrand. Strange since I would be worried more about their "development" rather than bertrand's who one can say has done all the "developing" he could.

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And its so weird that u don't have a problem with an 18 year old ask and 20 year old kalas being underused ( or rather not used at all), rather than bertrand. Strange since I would be worried more about their "development" rather than bertrand's who one can say has done all the "developing" he could.

I did have a problem with Ake not being used and Kalas's injury came at the wrong time. Now they both look like they're part of the squad and that gives us decent cover.

I get that you liked Bertrand (or maybe the idea of him). You put him in your predicted team each week and each week he'd be overlooked. He wasn't being used in the team so now he's gone somewhere we he can get regular first-team football. That's great for him and we've lost a third-choice left-back who wasn't playing and replaced him with Ake. That's good for young Nathan too.

Honestly I can't be bothered talking about this further because it simply doesn't warrant it.

[didierforever 7,349]

I did have a problem with Ake not being used and Kalas's injury came at the wrong time. Now they both look like they're part of the squad and that gives us decent cover.

I get that you liked Bertrand (or maybe the idea of him). You put him in your predicted team each week and each week he'd be overlooked. He wasn't being used in the team so now he's gone somewhere we he can get regular first-team football. That's great for him and we've lost a third-choice left-back who wasn't playing and replaced him with Ake. That's good for young Nathan too.

Honestly I can't be bothered talking about this further because it simply doesn't warrant it.

after all we have debated, u go on and say that kalas and ake are "decent cover". If bertrand was not played what's the expectations of either of them one game (combined).

I did like bertrand as a playrr. Plus in all honesty I expected him to have a break thru season with mou but its gone totally the opposite way. Seems like a hard worker, has a great workrate, is solid defensively... seened so much like a mourinho playr. For some reason it simply dint work out.

Anyways by this point, I am out of points. Its safe to say u agree with the deal. I really don't.

[Tomo 21,733]

I rate Bertrand highly, he always plays well when called upon and would have happily seen him start for us this season - or start more anyway. Although obviously if you don't rate him as highly then I can see why you may not be as bothered but I do think people who pass him off as just a 'dependable squad player, and nothing more' underestimate his ability.

I have family in Reading and i was up there a lot when Ryan was at the club on loan and from that time i said what im saying now, he's decent at everything but isnt outstanding at anything, that formula makes for a good squad player.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Ake takes his place. Effectively covers the CB and LB positions.

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I did have a problem with Ake not being used and Kalas's injury came at the wrong time. Now they both look like they're part of the squad and that gives us decent cover.

I get that you liked Bertrand (or maybe the idea of him). You put him in your predicted team each week and each week he'd be overlooked. He wasn't being used in the team so now he's gone somewhere we he can get regular first-team football. That's great for him and we've lost a third-choice left-back who wasn't playing and replaced him with Ake. That's good for young Nathan too.

Honestly I can't be bothered talking about this further because it simply doesn't warrant it.

Even Bertrand's injury came at the wrong time. He was out injured until January. I think between Kalas, Bertrand and Ake, Bertrand is clearly my pick for squad player since there's only one other recognised left-back at the club and he isn't really playing extremely well this season either. Azpilicueta at left-back has been decent defensively but he had his best game at Right back vs Liverpool.

[lionsden 4,689]

Even Bertrand's injury came at the wrong time. He was out injured until January. I think between Kalas, Bertrand and Ake, Bertrand is clearly my pick for squad player since there's only one other recognised left-back at the club and he isn't really playing extremely well this season either. Azpilicueta at left-back has been decent defensively but he had his best game at Right back vs Liverpool.

So every time one of our players get injured, we send them out on loan? someone should have sent jose the memo regarding others who came back from injury as well like Luiz, torres et al

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So every time one of our players get injured, we send them out on loan? someone should have sent jose the memo regarding others who came back from injury as well like Luiz, torres et al

Football careers are about momentum. Bertrand's career was stalled by injuries a bit like Romeu's. He now gets a chance to start moving forward again in his career, maybe playing his way back into our first-team or more likely putting himself in the shop window for a move in the summer.

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Lets just hope he can get that Villa LB spot for the rest of the season. He has the next few months to impress people.

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So every time one of our players get injured, we send them out on loan? someone should have sent jose the memo regarding others who came back from injury as well like Luiz, torres et al

No. if he was fit when Cole was dropped from the first team i think he would make more than 3 appearances.

bertrand is 24 now and was a squad player here. a player who will be needed in February/March when there are a cluster of games in the space of few days. if one of Ashley or azpilicueta are injured/suspended then the other one will have to play every game at left back. Ake, Luiz etc simply won't work

[ZanSnake 1,211]

No. if he was fit when Cole was dropped from the first team i think he would make more than 3 appearances.

bertrand is 24 now and was a squad player here. a player who will be needed in February/March when there are a cluster of games in the space of few days. if one of Ashley or azpilicueta are injured/suspended then the other one will have to play every game at left back. Ake, Luiz etc simply won't work

I am sure if anything else not fails Jose wouldn't be afraid to go with a 3-5-2 or something to battle against it. Jose's opinion always will have back-ups, one advantage to his mastery

[Stats 7,059]

Always rated him. Think he deserved more opportunities here but at least he will be getting 90 mins at Villa and hopefully can prove a point to Mourinho. Starts for Villa in the evening game against Liverpool. Quite a tough task he has ahead of him tough. Good luck Ryan!

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he's starting today vs Liverpool. straight away

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Bertrand vs sterling

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Bertrand won 2 tackles, 2 clearances, 2 duels (100%) , completed 75% passes. Good work

[Special Juan 27,439]

Did really well, kudos Berts.