Strike 7,489 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I don't know what you look for in a captain but I look for passion. Yes, laying into the referee isn't necessary but his passion rubbed off on the players and alas we started playing with a little more fire. Luiz had every right to lay into Webb because he was giving a lot of nonsense decisions to United. Obviously he needs to calm down a tad little but that's why I said "future". Thats what a captain should do. I'm sorry. How can you condone laying into the referee? I mean, it's the captain's job to speak to the ref on behalf of the team and it won't do us any favours if Luiz is badmouthing the refPassion-wise, he's a proper captaincy candidate and I'll admit, I felt a tinge of happiness seeing him go after Webb like that but I wouldn't want to see a club captain doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 He was so missed, so so missed. Fingers crossed he will be ready for Spurs!BTW, Azpi's jacket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 She has been the best this season.Almost all her calls has been spot on. I hope she continues the good work and looking for her next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Man. United's loss to Chelsea means they can't break our record of 29 wins in a PL season!Yay!Our record for points is safe thanks to last week.I can understand why but their fans did get a bit big headed this season..we can win the treble...oh wait...meh the double then we've pretty much won it...oh wait maybe not....we'll just get mega points and wins...or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I don't understand people's problem with Luiz laughing, Is there a rule that you have to make a sad face after being fouled? He was laughing while lying totally opposite to the Ref. Webb didn't even see him laughing. As Kojo said, he was laughing at Rafael's stupidity and rightly so!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What a huge win. The players stood up. Well done Rafa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Rafael fouled Luiz. He got the red card he deserved for what he did. You don't give out red cards based on how much pain, if any, the other player is in; which is why so many red cards are given for small things like pulling the opposition's clothing or giving them a slight nudge when you're the last defender. You give/get a red card simply down to what was committed or intended by a player.People say it was unsporting of Luiz to smile - so should he have faked serious pain, put on a crying face and lied to us all? No. He wasn't in pain (from what we can see) and thus didn't express any fake pain like so many players would have done which gets them a bad reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Fair enough but if it happened the other way around I would be hounding Luiz for being stupid enough to kick out at a player.surely... and i am sure that united fans would be laying into rafael too... but every1 of us would be ridiculing the player who was grinning after the tackle.. that is almost busquet-like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 That is just simply one massive and priceless win. The overall performance was average (and so was United really) and we looked clueless in the final third, again. Having said that, the win is all that matters now. Another 3 points against Spurs on Wednesday will seal our place in the Top 4 though avoiding defeat is very important! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 We also had a run of games where Mikel started where we won games. You're daft if you think it's solely Mikel's fault that we were dropping points.It's not quite as black and white as that. You know fine well that there's an always ongoing discussion in the Mikel thread. You also know there's people on here who always preach that he 'helps the defence' and 'does his role well'. Well I'm just reminding everyone that since he's been dropped, injured, whatever - Since he's been out of the team, we've gone on a consistent run of beating teams. We're consistently average with him playing. We're consistently above-average when he's where he belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Isn't this the first PL home game for Manchester United in many, many years where they've failed to score at home? Or was that record broken already and I missed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm sorry. How can you condone laying into the referee? I mean, it's the captain's job to speak to the ref on behalf of the team and it won't do us any favours if Luiz is badmouthing the refPassion-wise, he's a proper captaincy candidate and I'll admit, I felt a tinge of happiness seeing him go after Webb like that but I wouldn't want to see a club captain doing thatGiggs was doing the same damn thing just today Puyol does it.Beckenbauer did it.Gattuso/Ambrosini did it.The list goes on.These are successful leaders.No need to act like Luiz punched Webb in the face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Were Manure plain shite or just didn't want Twattenham to qualify for CL in order to make it easier to buy Gareth Bale?Anyway, this was the least we could get after the infamous October game.KTBFFH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Well from what I've gathered Arsenal fans are shitting bricks, don't know about Spurs. However if we win against Spurs on wednesday then we are in top 4 no doubt, even if we lost our last two games after that we would still just edge Spurs in goal difference come the end of the season.But with Gareth Super Fucking Bale it's going to be difficult, theirs not one doubt in my mind that he will at least get a goal or an assist, no doubt about it, so I think it's a game where we will have to score more goals, I sense a goal fest, but only if we are up for it.Lets just hope we have Hazard, because I think he's going to be vital for that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMMrgqSJNAEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmPXhxqiBuYFair play to Benitez for batting away the last question about rumours linking with him Schalke.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9MKdPGJMXEWas thinking "Fair play to Fergie" when he said we deserved the win...until he starts talking about the referee saying United never got any decisions going their way and we surrounded the ref all day! That is so typical of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 It's not quite as black and white as that. You know fine well that there's an always ongoing discussion in the Mikel thread. You also know there's people on here who always preach that he 'helps the defence' and 'does his roll well'. Well I'm just reminding everyone that since he's been dropped, injured, whatever - Since he's been out of the team, we've gone on a consistent run of beating teams. We're consistently average with him playing. We're consistently above-average when he's where he belongs.Well, your own comment seemed black and white to me as well so I felt that I should say something about it. I don't think you can say for definite after Mikel hasn't played for 4 games that we play better without him. It isn't as black and white as that. We really aren't consistently above average whenever he doesn't play - we've played bad in games where Mikel hasn't played, and we've played bad in games he has. That's why I thought your comment was inappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Giggs was doing the same damn thing just today Puyol does it.Beckenbauer did it.Gattuso/Ambrosini did it.The list goes on.These are successful leaders.No need to act like Luiz punched Webb in the faceThat's no argument to support his leadership. As a captain, he'll have to speak to the ref constantly. Not gonna work if he keeps blowing his lid off. However frustrating it gets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Massive three points, win on Wednesday and it's over and even a draw would almost seal the Champions League qualification. Tottenham fans whining about United playing their second team is almost as hilarious as them last season after Munich. Luiz and Mata obviously deserve massive credit for the win but I'll go with Azpilicueta for Man of the Match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Rafael fouled Luiz. He got the red card he deserved for what he did. You don't give out red cards based on how much pain, if any, the other player is in; which is why so many red cards are given for small things like pulling the opposition's clothing or giving them a slight nudge when you're the last defender. You give/get a red card simply down to what was committed or intended by a player.People say it was unsporting of Luiz to smile - so should he have faked serious pain, put on a crying face and lied to us all? No. He wasn't in pain (from what we can see) and thus didn't express any fake pain like so many players would have done which gets them a bad reputation.so lying on the ground holding your ankle and secretly smiling gets him a good rep?? interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I don't understand people's problem with Luiz laughing, Is there a rule that you have to make a sad face after being fouled? He was laughing while lying totally opposite to the Ref. Webb didn't even see him laughing. As Kojo said, he was laughing at Rafael's stupidity and rightly so!! Exactly, maybe David Luiz enjoys pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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