bushman 2,043 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 What do you mean?Rafa gone would mean:a) we don't have an idiot in chargeb ) we do have a bench, he just doesn't use it, (why not put on Azpi for a tired ivan, why not put marin on, fresh legs and couldn't have been worse than bertrand or oscar)c) Everyone would concentrate on the team, which isn't happenningd) Rafa gone would give everyone new motivation.e) There is no way our results could get worsef) I didn't know you were in touch with roman and ray wilkins.The same shit over & over. It will not solve anything at this time.My last post in this thread.Unused substitutes on Chelsea´s bench:Turnbull, Ferreira, Marin, Azpi, Benayoun, Ake, says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 JT player-manager till the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Mate, you still just don't get it do you?It doesn't fucking matter who they are or what their individual preferences & methods may be - so long as it's not Rafa, that will be more than enough to deliver some form of success - no other professional manager could possibly fall victim to the same blatant insolence that he seems to perpetually wallow in.I'm confident that even without a designated manager, with Holland as a fill-in or even JT & Lamps leading the pack themselves, we could make the top 4; & that is more than we could possibly hope for given the current situation. With Rafa remaining at the helm however, that is looking increasingly more unlikely as every week he seems to provide a tiny spark & sense of false hope for salvation - & yet ultimately just continues to lead us further & further into the unknown abyss as any kind of consistency or form eludes us entirely.If we had started the season with him, we would be lounging around amidst the mid-table scrap heap along with the likes of Livershit, Swansea, West Brom & Stoke - dare I say an even more dire position that due to our peplexing reluctance to make him redundant - despite him already being the essential definition of that in all reality...So what you're saying is that sacking Rafa will solve our problems. He is the only one dribing us down, not the lack of players in our disposal. A new manager can come in, somehow breed Mata and have more options and come out with results? Im not saying Rafa should stay but why can't you see a bigger picture here? He is not the real problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Funnily enough I saw people making fun before the game that his subs will surely be Azpi vs Ivan and so on. And didnt he get murdered on this forum for subbing a defensive minded Ivanovic and putting on attacking minded Luiz, who started to offer threat as soon as he got on with his low driven powerful passes from the deep. Other than that I agree with you post, excluding the sarcastic point.No they were joking about how he would do that in the 87th min, with the time being the main factor. At 2-2 we needed fresh impetus in defence and attack. Azpi would give us fresh legs and someone to help on the overlap and marin, because if he cant even come on as a sub when we are playing a left back at left winger with no other options what was the point of his purchase. Even benayoun could come on just to have someone fresh who can chase back then run forward for 10 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Di Canio could become available btwTHEN GET HIM ASAP ...a footballing brain and PASSION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The same shit over & over. It will not solve anything at this time.My last post in this thread.Unused substitutes on Chelsea´s bench:Turnbull, Ferreira, Marin, Azpi, Benayoun, Ake, says it all. Yeah, its crap, but we can't do anything about that. But fresh legs are fresh legs and Azpi and Marin are better than a very tired bertrand and ivan.It will solve the endless protests from fans etc, and mean we can concentrate on the game, it wouldn't solve all our problems but our team is more than good enough for top 4 with anyone other than rafa there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different level 1,056 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Well after I am over (sort of) my meltdown I will try to look at the positives here. The players will finally have a week rest after 2 months of playing twice a week, Hazard will be back, rested and recharched and Moses and Mikel will be available unless Nigeria reach the Acon final. I don't want to talk about the game because I will fall into a deep depression if I start recalling the events of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 So what you're saying is that sacking Rafa will solve our problems. He is the only one dribing us down, not the lack of players in our disposal. A new manager can come in, somehow breed Mata and have more options and come out with results? Im not saying Rafa should stay but why can't you see a bigger picture here? He is not the real problem here.sorry but HE IS the big problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 No they were joking about how he would do that in the 87th min, with the time being the main factor. At 2-2 we needed fresh impetus in defence and attack. Azpi would give us fresh legs and someone to help on the overlap and marin, because if he cant even come on as a sub when we are playing a left back at left winger with no other options what was the point of his purchase. Even benayoun could come on just to have someone fresh who can chase back then run forward for 10 mins.Azpi has been one of the most overused players this season. Thing I can't see is why Rafa/RdM didn't use Marin instead of Bertrand? Marin has been better than him everytime he comes on the pitch. Does Ryan transform into somekind of Ronaldo hybrid in the training to make them select him week in week out regardless of being so dependent on his left foot, lacking trickery and experience on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The same shit over & over. It will not solve anything at this time.My last post in this thread.Unused substitutes on Chelsea´s bench:Turnbull, Ferreira, Marin, Azpi, Benayoun, Ake, says it all. newcastle scored their 2nd goal on 68th minute. just tells u how defensive and negative the manager is when he keeps bertrand on and does not put a natural winger/midfielder in marin/benayoun on... he fuckibg dint even go for the win.. our bench might not have messi and ronaldo but i dont see the problem in using who ever we do? or do u actually believe bertrand is a better winger than marin/benayoun... FSW lacks balls, all he thinks about is his record and not what is right for the club and he has no footballing brain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Y. 2 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Benitez must run as far as he can away from Chelsea. In any case it will not be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 newcastle scored their 2nd goal on 68th minute. just tells u how defensive and negative the manager is when he keeps bertrand on and does not put a natural winger/midfielder in marin/benayoun on... he fuckibg dint even go for the win.. our bench might not have messi and ronaldo but i dont see the problem in using who ever we do? or do u actually believe bertrand is a better winger than marin/benayoun... FSW lacks balls, all he thinks about is his record and not what is right for the club and he has no footballing brain...Di Matteo picked Bertrand to play his debut CL match in the final, on the wing. Regardless of having Malouda, Sturridge on the bench. Do you believe Bertrand is a better winger than Malouda / Sturridge? Or did RDM lack a footballing brain? Your hate for Rafa is blind, please try to see a bigger picture here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellaw 37 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Rafa out we line up 4511 Lets build stability get results in the bag (defence) cole,terry, Cahill ivan ,(midfield) lampard , luiz ,michel ramirez,asprilla Mata supporting BA upfront on his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Di Matteo picked Bertrand to play his debut CL match in the final, on the wing. Regardless of having Malouda, Sturridge on the bench. Do you believe Bertrand is a better winger than Malouda / Sturridge? Or did RDM lack a footballing brain? Your hate for Rafa is blind, please try to see a bigger picture here.are u fucking kidding me? rdm made a tactical decision to stop lahm... we were gonna park the bus, had no other option. today bertrand started , fine, no problem with it. but y keep him wen we conceded in the 68th minute... sub him and get a winger on against tired wingbacks. thats what i said. try reading and understanding comment. also read bushman's comment about what subs it had and then try to add 1+1 on why i would write that comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Rafa out we line up 4511 Lets build stability get results in the bag (defence) cole,terry, Cahill ivan ,(midfield) lampard , luiz ,michel ramirez,asprilla Mata supporting BA upfront on his ownThat's called cheating, but Manu have always got 12 on the field so why cant we, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount 146 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 ---------------------------------Cech--------------------------------------------Api/ivan----Cahill/ivan------Terry/Cahill-----Cole/bertrand-----------------------------Mikel/lampard------Luiz----------------------------------moses/hazard------Lampard/felliani(if only)-----Mata/oscar-------------------------------------------Ba-------------------------------------More then enough quality there if played right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 We were shit again and we lost again but no need to panic! Roman knows better! and let's face it, he is always right and makes good decisions for us which eventually benefits our club just look at how many trophies we won in the past couple of years. We must give Rafa a full season then we can judge if he is capable of doing it or not.and by the way i'm glad i didn't see the game.Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 3 players- jt, cech and lampard came over to applaud the fans who have travelled the length of the country to be at st James park. Is it really too much to ask for the rest of the cunts to walk a few yards over? Worthless twats.Exactly, no passion from the players anymore. They are playing like they want the manager to be sacked. Benitez is a cancer, no one likes him and he will never work in chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 ---------------------------------Cech--------------------------------------------Api/ivan----Cahill/ivan------Terry/Cahill-----Cole/bertrand-----------------------------Mikel/lampard------Luiz----------------------------------moses/hazard------Lampard/felliani(if only)-----Mata/oscar-------------------------------------------Ba-------------------------------------More then enough quality there if played right.Enough quality but fragile as a house built from cards. Scratch out Moses,Mikel, Luiz and possible injury to any of our defense player - we are fucked beyond belief with having to play same XI week in week out till some of them return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Thats the thing may not show passion for the manager...but nice to show passion for the fans!Make the effort for them at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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