Isco

[haranr 485]

You're talking about two players who bring different things to their respective games. Saying one is better because he's more 'talented' when their talents are different is a little bit broad.

No. If you are saying I cant compare those 2 yo uare wrong. They are both attacking midefliders. I don't know how to explain the fact that Isco is better. It's just a fact you can see that. He can do more than Mata. Lets say that Isco at his best is better than Mata at his best that's for sure.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Mata has achived more than Hazard but everyone can see that Hazard is a better player, much more skill.

Mata reads the game far better than Eden, but Eden is far more dynamic on the ball. Again, you're somewhat comparing apples and oranges.

[haranr 485]

Mata reads the game far better than Eden, but Eden is far more dynamic on the ball. Again, you're somewhat comparing apples and oranges.

I was acutally comparing Mata to Isco. But about Hazard is clear. Mata might "read the game better" but Hazard is a better player. I am not trying to compare but If I must Hazard is better no dought.

Hazard is a better dribbler, shooter, weak footed,strength, balace, pace, skill.

Mata is a better crosser, passer

The players who got what Hazard has over Mata will always be named as the best.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Mata is amazing, but Hazard will be at a different level to Mata in a year or two, Hazard will reach a level that none of Mata, Isco, Oscar or De Bruyne will reach imo, They all are or will become world class players but imo Hazard has more potential than any of them to be a future Ballon D'or winner and one of the all time greats.

[haranr 485]

Mata is amazing, but Hazard will be at a different level to Mata in a year or two, Hazard will reach a level that none of Mata, Isco, Oscar or De Bruyne will reach imo, They all are or will become world class players but imo Hazard has more potential than any of them to be a future Ballon D'or winner and one of the all time greats.

I am not sure Isco can't reach Hazard's level. I don't like that but he has really really improved. He is something special like Hazard was in Lille we must wathc out.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

I am not sure Isco can't reach Hazard's level. I don't like that but he has really really improved. He is something special like Hazard was in Lille we must wathc out.

One thing Isco can't and probably never be able to beat Hazard is pace though The guy is one of the fastest player in the world

[haranr 485]

One thing Isco can't and probably never be able to beat Hazard is pace though The guy is one of the fastest player in the world

Sure but Inestia which is known to be the 3rd best player in the world also hasn't got the ability to beat Hazard's pace.

[The Skipper 20,593]

So am I right in thinking that some of you say that Isco is already on Mata's level?

[yuvala 2,167]

So am I right in thinking that some of you say that Isco is already on Mata's level?

Actually I dont think I've seen anyone here actually saying that.

Just that IN A FEW YEARS he might be better.

[magic weeds 446]

While at it, we should maybe look at Bernard Anício Caldeira Duarte.

[yuvala 2,167]

Isco thread or Mata&Hazard thread ???

Isco&Mata thread.

Masco (?)

[The Skipper 20,593]

Actually I dont think I've seen anyone here actually saying that.

Just that IN A FEW YEARS he might be better.

Thor is pretty much saying that Isco's already on Mata's level.

[haranr 485]

Thor is pretty much saying that Isco's already on Mata's level.

How?!! He clearly says that nobody thinks Isco is already on Mata's level. Read.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

While at it, we should maybe look at Bernard Anício Caldeira Duarte.

I agree get rid or Moses and/or Marin and sign Bernard! the kid has alot of potential much more than those two!

[The Skipper 20,593]

How?!! He clearly says that nobody thinks Isco is already on Mata's level. Read.

YOU READ.

And yes, I'm saying that ISCO is in fact level with Mata.

[BOSS 372]

The Spanish team as a whole is successful exactly due to the way they nurture and bring up their youth players. There is a reason he is in the U21 squad and not straight into the top team. Its the way they do it with all their players.

Look at how the English team tries to pluck from the youth ranks which results in nothing but trouble and talents falling off. Spain have a great mentoring system, that clearly is working since they have been the dominant nation in football for more than half this decade.

And yes, I'm saying that ISCO is in fact level with Mata. Plenty laughed and berated me on here when I stated that Hazard was a better player than Mata prior to coming to Chelsea. Look how that one turned out... Isco isn't as good as Hazard, nor will he ever be IMO, but he certainly is as good as Mata, and hes most definitely a better player than Oscar.

[haranr 485]

YOU READ.

My bad man I thought you were saying Yuvalal thinks that, Sorry

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Isco fits Spain's tiki-taka better than Mata imo. I am a little surprised Barca isn't in for him, but I think City is also a very good choice for him because their play style will suit him more than ours or Real Madrid.

And, I also agree that Hazard would turn out to be a better player than Mata, he was arguably already ahead by last season's end but DEM STATS by Mata are just impossible to ignore. I mean other than Messi and Ronaldo those stats he put up last year were unreal!!

At the end of the day, goals and assists make the difference and there isn't any attacking mid better than Mata imo.