MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Anything team will need that but the point still stands.Guess there isn't really any point arguing about this if you are just gonna judge Leverkusen based on paper. Oh well..Like I said it is a matter of opinions, it is just mine, you might think differently and that is fine too. We might not even draw either anyway, making this convo a bit useless I think if we play the right tactics and the right mindset we will beat any of those teams anyway including Juve or PSG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jas 43,082 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 Like I said it is a matter of opinions, it is just mine, you might think differently and that is fine too. We might not even draw either anyway, making this convo a bit useless Having different opinions is fine but when that opinion is based on things just like results, then it becomes questionable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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didierforever 7,349 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 very weird!! monaco top the group while conceding just 1 goal and they have none of their defenders in the team of the group stages!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LDN Blue 7,900 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Juventus are woeful in Europe, almost as bad as City. I think people are overstating their difficulty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kobematabryant 397 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Basel are the hardest team for us, they are our bogey side. But the easiest team probably would be Bayer, we should beat them with ease. PSG & Juve are hard too. I think Juve will be best to get, time for revenge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Juventus are woeful in Europe, almost as bad as City. I think people are overstating their difficulty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LondonsFinest 692 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 When's the draw? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tautvix 1,321 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Di Matteo's dying Chelsea... You cannot compare it with Mourinho's Chelsea. Two different things. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzchap 8,758 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 When's the draw?I believe on Monday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jas 43,082 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 Basel are the hardest team for us, they are our bogey side. But the easiest team probably would be Bayer, we should beat them with ease. PSG & Juve are hard too. I think Juve will be best to get, time for revenge. How on earth are Basel our bogey side? We have played them 4 times and each of us have 2 wins. People are overreacting to Basel just because they defeated us twice last season but seem to forget that we beat them twice two seasons ago. And just like I mentioned earlier, it's laughable people think Leverkusen are the easiest team of the lot. When's the draw? Next Monday, at 11am UK time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LDN Blue 7,900 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Had to be that guy, didn't you? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LondonsFinest 692 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 How on earth are Basel our bogey side? We have played them 4 times and each of us have 2 wins. People are overreacting to Basel just because they defeated us twice last season but seem to forget that we beat them twice two seasons ago. And just like I mentioned earlier, it's laughable people think Leverkusen are the easiest team of the lot.Next Monday, at 11am UK time.Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jas 43,082 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Notice a trend here?Luiz and PSG to come in last 16?? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kobematabryant 397 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 How on earth are Basel our bogey side? We have played them 4 times and each of us have 2 wins. People are overreacting to Basel just because they defeated us twice last season but seem to forget that we beat them twice two seasons ago. And just like I mentioned earlier, it's laughable people think Leverkusen are the easiest team of the lot.Next Monday, at 11am UK time.Umm....because they were the first team to beat Mourinho's Chelsea at the bridge and beat us twice, without letting us have a single shot on target that game. In fact, Basel are a bogey side for English teams in general, we saw what they are capable of doing against English teams and they did it to Liverpool. Basel will try to make a name for themselves and history for the club, if they manage to get to the Quarter finals. They will be a very hungry club in the 2nd round. Not saying we can't beat Basel but we all know for a FACT that they are capable of beating us HOME & AWAY. I think if we are drawn with Basel and if we manage to get past them, it'll be a very hard sweat inducing game for the boys and will probably be harder than the Quarters draw.Plus, Leverkusen are the easiest team that is possible for us to get. All I have to say,MOYES 9-2 Leverkusen or should I say PSG 6-1 Leverkusen, the same PSG we beat next round. As I said about German Clubs before, bar Munich & maybe Dortmund, teams like Schalke & Leverkusen are Europa league fodder, that are allowed to compete in the UCL because of the success of Munich & a freak season by Dortmund. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jas 43,082 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Umm....because they were the first team to beat Mourinho's Chelsea at the bridge and beat us twice, without letting us have a single shot on target that game.Guess when you said Basel were the first team to beat Mourinho at the Bridge, you meant the first home defeat last season, right?They beat us twice because (1) we weren't even in any kind of form when we played them at home and (2) the defeat at Basel was, partly, due to Mourinho's negative approach. Couldn't believe how insipid and negative we were that night - we had Ramires on the RW for goodness sake! Made Basel look like Barcelona. In fact, Basel are a bogey side for English teams in general, we saw what they are capable of doing against English teams and they did it to Liverpool. Basel will try to make a name for themselves and history for the club, if they manage to get to the Quarter finals. They will be a very hungry club in the 2nd round. Not saying we can't beat Basel but we all know for a FACT that they are capable of beating us HOME & AWAY. I think if we are drawn with Basel and if we manage to get past them, it'll be a very hard sweat inducing game for the boys and will probably be harder than the Quarters draw.Yes, I know Basel are a bogey side for English teams and they have a good squad but think people are being overly paranoid and overestimating them. Of the English teams to have played them in recent years, we have the best record against them. Plus, Leverkusen are the easiest team that is possible for us to get. All I have to say,MOYES 9-2 Leverkusen or should I say PSG 6-1 Leverkusen, the same PSG we beat next round. As I said about German Clubs before, bar Munich & maybe Dortmund, teams like Schalke & Leverkusen are Europa league fodder, that are allowed to compete in the UCL because of the success of Munich & a freak season by Dortmund. No offence but that's rather ignorant if you are just judging a team based on results. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lucio 4,432 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Question. If spurs , pool or Everton win europa. Do 4th place team lose their spot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jas 43,082 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Question. If spurs , pool or Everton win europa. Do 4th place team lose their spot? No. It just means England, in this case, will have 5 teams in the Champions League next season.http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=2137611.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2329601/Europa-League-winners-given-Champions-League-place-UEFA.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2778224/Boost-Tottenham-Everton-UEFA-confirm-FIVE-Premier-League-clubs-feature-Champions-League.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kobematabryant 397 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 OK, here is another question. What if, the final was between Roma vs Everton for example and Roma get top 2 in their league in the same season which is direct qualification for CL and if Roma win the EL, will Everton as runner ups be given the champions league spot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jas 43,082 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 OK, here is another question. What if, the final was between Roma vs Everton for example and Roma get top 2 in their league in the same season which is direct qualification for CL and if Roma win the EL, will Everton as runner ups be given the champions league spot?From my understanding, no. Instead, it will benefit another team from another association/country based on the UEFA country coefficients.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_UEFA_Champions_League#Distribution Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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