Tomo 21,751 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 9 hours ago, Robguima said: never did, but like his attitude and the fact he *has been* proving me wrong makes this all the sweeter. I was another who doubted Moses, but if we look at in the sense of his positioning we haven't really been proved wrong, i don't rate him as a winger and likely never will, however wingback is a total different role required tactically and he seems tailor made for it. Winger makes all his weaknesses stand out like a sore thumb where-as wing back bring's his strengths out (mainly pace, power and stamina) to the fore, and he's surprisingly quite good at defending too. His average decision making, technical skills and final ball is still visible on occasion, but he isn't in such an advanced position so regularly these days for it to be that big an issue and unlike on the wing doesn't hold back the team at wingback. Would be like someone not rating Thierry Henry as a winger but loving him as a striker, or Danny Rose as a winger but love him as a left back, players just simply average/not great in one position but very good (Moses and Rose) or world class (Henry) in another. robsblubot and Peace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 9 hours ago, Robguima said: never did, but like his attitude and the fact he *has been* proving me wrong makes this all the sweeter. I was just joking. People always comment "always rated him" for a player they never rated or had no opinion on. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! the wes 7,212 Posted October 30, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted October 30, 2016 Jamie Redknapp on Victor Moses: "It's nice to see a young English talent getting a chance". Moses has 24 caps for Nigeria and is nearly 26 lol Cosmin, Henrique, Ledg and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I will keep my opinion on Moses: he is ultra limited player, and he offer less than Alonso offers in the left back wing. He is usually stucked in the same area of the pitch the whole game and barely goes forward. Not a surprised the team almost never create attacking chances in the right side of the pitch. He basically doesn't fuck the game, but thats not enough to praise him as a great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MefiX19 1,092 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, Henrique said: I will keep my opinion on Moses: he is ultra limited player, and he offer less than Alonso offers in the left back wing. He is usually stucked in the same area of the pitch the whole game and barely goes forward. Not a surprised the team almost never create attacking chances in the right side of the pitch. He basically doesn't fuck the game, but thats not enough to praise him as a great player. You are probaly watching different player. He is playing perfectly, he does his job defensively with help of Azpi and also bombs forward and links up with our wingers, he also can beat his man and not just stands around for 10 seconds like Willian. He has been one of the best if bot the best player so far this season. !Hazard! and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Melanicus 5,208 Posted October 30, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted October 30, 2016 Great young English talent. MefiX19, Despiadado.Maleante, Igi26 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 24 minutes ago, Henrique said: I will keep my opinion on Moses: he is ultra limited player, and he offer less than Alonso offers in the left back wing. He is usually stucked in the same area of the pitch the whole game and barely goes forward. Not a surprised the team almost never create attacking chances in the right side of the pitch. He basically doesn't fuck the game, but thats not enough to praise him as a great player. Lol need anymore proof that this guy knows absolutely nothing about football??? He wanted Conte gone a few weeks ago, clueless! Supermonkey92 and Despiadado.Maleante 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 new cafu petre.ispirescu and the wes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Blue Armour 4,439 Posted October 30, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted October 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, Henrique said: I will keep my opinion on Moses: he is ultra limited player, and he offer less than Alonso offers in the left back wing. He is usually stucked in the same area of the pitch the whole game and barely goes forward. Not a surprised the team almost never create attacking chances in the right side of the pitch. He basically doesn't fuck the game, but thats not enough to praise him as a great player. Â I'm not sure how you think that's the case....he does have a lot of contribution going forward. Today he assisted Hazard, created another one for Hazard and Costa, and almost scored one himself. He also had a goal scored against Leicester two games ago. Supermonkey92, MefiX19, Abreu03 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 43 minutes ago, Henrique said: I will keep my opinion on Moses: he is ultra limited player, and he offer less than Alonso offers in the left back wing. He is usually stucked in the same area of the pitch the whole game and barely goes forward. Not a surprised the team almost never create attacking chances in the right side of the pitch. He basically doesn't fuck the game, but thats not enough to praise him as a great player. For a change I like we have somenone on right side who is 1.) direct 2.) no nonsense 3.) physical beast 4.) keeps the ball well 5.) knows when to pass and when to run By no mean is he world class, but he is strong, intelligent player who can improve further in that wingback role under Conte. At least he doesnt get pushed off the ball like Oscar or wastes time by dribbling air like Willian. I have seen you dislike Azpi many times, now Moses. Perhaps you dont see quality in players unless they do zidane turns and golasos in every game. Btw how can you describe him as ultra limited if he has almost everything in locker? Speed, strenght, can pass or shoot, can dribble, can defend. Maybe he is jack off all trades, master of none, but fuck me, we play much much better and he is one of main reasons for that.   The Rising Sun and the wes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 55 minutes ago, Henrique said: I will keep my opinion on Moses: he is ultra limited player, and he offer less than Alonso offers in the left back wing. He is usually stucked in the same area of the pitch the whole game and barely goes forward. Not a surprised the team almost never create attacking chances in the right side of the pitch. He basically doesn't fuck the game, but thats not enough to praise him as a great player. How many games have you watched recently pal? Also, 2nd half today. Moses got forward lots of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Great performance today moses is making that right -wing back position his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Playing out of his skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Ahmed 528 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 |Enjoying my football back at the Bridge| Quote Since Victor Moses came in to the starting XI the Blues have won three league games out of three. The official Chelsea website spoke to him this week and discussed his new position, his rapport with the fans and his teammates, and what it’s like playing in such close proximity to the boss during matches…On the pitch, Victor Moses has emerged as a vital cog under Antonio Conte; off it, the Chelsea supporters are singing his name as often as anyone’s. It is testament to the impact the Nigerian has made this season.Moses is by no means a new signing, but having spent the past three years out on loan, elsewhere in the Premier League, he does feel like one. Many of his teammates from that epic, 69-game 2012/13 campaign have moved on. Some are still here and others, like David Luiz, have also returned, but nonetheless much has changed since the Nigerian was last playing regular competitive football at the Bridge. The manner in which Moses has slotted back in to life at Chelsea suggests he has quickly felt at home again, and that’s a sentiment he agrees with as we catch up with him at Cobham. ‘I’m feeling happy, I’m feeling excited and right now I’m looking forward to every game,’ he says.‘The most important thing is getting out on the pitch and enjoying your football, and that’s what I am doing at the moment. It’s also good to have a team that believes in your ability and encourages you to keep driving on and playing well.‘I really appreciate the support of the fans as well,’ Moses adds.‘From the very first day I came here they have been great with me. I can tell the love they have for me and at the same time I have got a huge amount of respect and love for them as well.‘I will keep doing my best for them to make sure we win as many games as we can. The whole team wants to do well for the fans and make them happy, and we are going to do that this season.’  Moses speaks with confidence and clarity, reflecting his performances on the pitch. August goals against Bristol Rovers and Burnley well and truly announced his return, and then came a first league start against Hull, at right wing-back, in Conte’s new 3-4-3 system. Neither the team nor Moses have looked back. ‘I have not played there before,’ the 25-year-old reports of his new role. ‘I have just got to listen to what the manager asks me to do in that position, and the way he wants me to do it.'Every game we play I just want to keep on improving. The more games you play, the more experience you get in that position. I’m really relishing it at the moment and enjoying it.‘It’s very important to understand your teammates. I have got Azpilicueta there, the spare right-back, who is behind me, and he communicates with me and really helps me out to make sure I am in the right position. ‘It’s very good to link up with Pedro or Willian, too. They know when it’s time for me to go or when not to go. We speak to each other and we look at each other’s movement to make sure we are doing the right thing on the pitch.‘Defensively we all work as a unit in training,’ Moses continues. ‘We want to make sure we don’t get caught sleeping in a game. Every day in training the manager is on top of us to make sure we are solid at the back.‘It’s looking good for us at the moment, but we have to keep our feet firmly on the floor, try and keep the momentum going and hopefully win as many games as we can without conceding goals.’ What has been so impressive about Moses’s renaissance is the effect he is having on the team at both ends: a more-than-capable extra defender when we are on the back foot, robust, tough-tackling and alert; and a dangerous weapon in attack, offering width, crossing ability and, three times already this season, goals.The Leicester one stands out, coming as it did with a spectacular backflip celebration and a kiss of the badge in front of the jubilant Matthew Harding Stand. He smiles at the recent memory and is quick to credit the provider, Nathaniel Chalobah, whose delicate flick set him clear. Moses also has plenty of words of praise for Conte, with whom he has enjoyed a fantastic relationship since the very beginning of pre-season and who has given him a chance to shine again. ‘He’s a top manager. He’s making everyone feel happy. He’s played the game, he’s got the experience and he knows how to talk to players. You can tell he is very passionate about the game and we players love that as well.‘He’s also very helpful on the touchline. He talks to you to make sure you’re in the right position, and then when you do the right thing he gives you a pat on the back to encourage you, which gives you more energy.’ We’ll need plenty of vigour and verve at Southampton today, and Moses says beating the in-form Saints would send ‘another big statement’ out, following on from the thrilling toppling of Manchester United.If he is as impressive as he was last weekend, then we stand every chance of doing just that. chelseafc.com  kellzfresh and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Hes surprisingly top notch defensively. High up in the final third he still can make some poor decisions that remind me why i never liked him as a winger. Wingback is almost made for him and it makes me wonder why no one has tried it before with him. The Skipper and Supermonkey92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, Tomo said: Hes surprisingly top notch defensively. High up in the final third he still can make some poor decisions that remind me why i never liked him as a winger. Wingback is almost made for him and it makes me wonder why no one has tried it before with him. Didn't Martinez play him there when he was still at Wigan? I'm probably wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Polo7 said: Lol need anymore proof that this guy knows absolutely nothing about football??? He wanted Conte gone a few weeks ago, clueless! This Forum probably have the greatest retard ever in Polo7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Blue Armour said:  I'm not sure how you think that's the case....he does have a lot of contribution going forward. Today he assisted Hazard, created another one for Hazard and Costa, and almost scored one himself. He also had a goal scored against Leicester two games ago. "He assisted Hazard" Not sure if that was an "assist", if you now what I mean. Anyway, the new circle jerk in Talk Chelsea is praise Moses for doing small things. A very limited player with great tactical discipline. No more than that.  Good Things is soon or late people see the light. Years ago Matic and Cahill were called world class players, and we had the best back 4 of the world in Azp, Cahill, Terry and Ivanovic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 One of the most underrated players I have ever seen. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Amblève. said: Didn't Martinez play him there when he was still at Wigan? I'm probably wrong though. My main memory of Wigan's 3-4-3 was the win away at Arsenal in 2012 and if I recall correctly it was Boyce at wing back and Moses on the wjng. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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