Oscar

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Our main problem the last season was that we missed a "boss" in the midfield who dictates our tempo etc. I don't see how we have solved this problem so far. Hazard and Marin will be playing on the wings, Mata isn't defensive enough to be Mikel's partner next to him and Oscar hasn't shown yet that he's competitive in a European league. We rather should go after the likes of Moutinho who are experienced enough to be the missing part in our team.

If Oscar comes, please we wont sign another midfielder of any kind. It will be death to all our youngesters including likes of Oscar,...

We dont need Moutinho, Lampard is doing just fine and when he will not be on top level anymore, I hope among our youngsters, there will be at least one who will take his job in full responsibility and replace him good enough. Either Mata, Kdb, Oscar, Josh or Hazard.

Cech

Iva-Luiz-Terry-Cole

Mikel-Lampard

Ramires-Mata-Hazard

Torres

Oscar, Cahill, Bertrand, Ferreira, Malouda, Meireles, Marin, Danny, Kdb, Josh, Hutch, Turnbull, Essien, Romeu, Kakuta

Probably, we will add at least another winger; Moses, Hulk,... and RB. Get rid of Malouda, Essien, Meireles and Ferreira and we get team of 24 players. Looks just right amount for me.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Haha you really want people to post their Fifa fantasy starting line up?

Ok, i'll give it a go...

Mikel-Lampard

(Oscar------------------Mata--------------Hazard

Hazard-----------------Oscar---------------Mata ) ----------------> any of them could change position e.g Mata in the middle, oscar on the right etc

Torres

We may try and change Oscar into a deep lying playmaker, it's not that odd to see a Brazilian change positions in the EPL for example Lucas at liverpool, he used to be a CAM now he's a DM, Anderson at Man united, used to be a CAM, RW now a CM... so who actually knows.

Also i promise not to do a fantasy starting eleven again.

I just created a new thread where people can post all sorts of fantasy formations etc. Because i heard people were getting annoyed with all the lineup posts....

[fAnta 107]

--------------Cech---------------

Iva---------Terry---------Luiz-------Cole

---------------Mikel/Ramires--------------

---------Oscar/Piazon--------Mata------

Hulk--------------------------------Hazard

------------------Torres-----------------

Sub options: Hilario, Marin,Kakuta, Romeu, Cahill,De Bruyne,Sturridge, Bertrand, Hutch

Josh,Lukaku = loan

Malouda, Meireles, Ferreira and even Essien and Lampard could all leave

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Our main problem the last season was that we missed a "boss" in the midfield who dictates our tempo etc. I don't see how we have solved this problem so far. Hazard and Marin will be playing on the wings, Mata isn't defensive enough to be Mikel's partner next to him and Oscar hasn't shown yet that he's competitive in a European league. We rather should go after the likes of Moutinho who are experienced enough to be the missing part in our team.

Our main problem last year is that our strikers scored a combined 11 goals in the league. It's about a third of what they should be scoring. Some of that was due to having only two creative midfielders in Lampard and Mata but most of it was due to the poor form of our strikers. We got Hazard to fill the creative role, but losing Drogba makes our strikers even worse. Going into the transfer period, we needed a creative midfielder, a striker who can score regularly, and a backup RB. The Oscar signing, if it happens, really makes little sense. That's probably the position where we have the most depth as well as our best youth players and the price seems insane for a player who hasn't played in Europe yet.

[Hutcho 8,443]

--------------Cech---------------

Iva------Terry------Luiz-----Cole

-----------Mikel/Ramires---------

---------Oscar--------Mata--------

Hulk------------------------Hazard

--------------Torres-----------------

Sub options: Hilario, Marin,Kakuta, Romeu, Cahill,De Bruyne,Sturridge, Bertrand, Hutch

Josh = loan

Malouda, Meireles, Ferreira and even Essien could all leave

There is no way, ramires would play there instead of Mikel, If we play one man holding they have to be like makelele. And lampard could maybe play there. He would be our supersub.

[Strike 7,475]

--------------Cech---------------

Iva------Terry------Luiz-----Cole

-----------Mikel/Ramires---------

---------Oscar--------Mata--------

Hulk------------------------Hazard

--------------Torres-----------------

Sub options: Hilario, Marin,Kakuta, Romeu, Cahill,De Bruyne,Sturridge, Bertrand, Hutch

Josh,Lukaku = loan

Malouda, Meireles, Ferreira and even Essien and Lampard could all leave

Not gonna happen mate. Not gonna happen

[The Big Drog 1,110]

De Bruyne won't play a major role in the upcoming season, Marin was signed as a squad player, so let's not refer to him as if he's going to be the first name on the team sheet. Even under the assumption AVB won’t play with set wingers, we still need natural wide men, and then there’s the argument of physicality, having all these similar small technical players gives us little to no balance/dimension. With the Hulk deal in the balance it's somewhat of a mindfuck, that we're supposedly going to splash out on another number 10.

We dont know that yet. Im not saying Marin will be the first name on the team sheet, but he is a winger and a player who is capable of earning a permanent starting role at the club, however as I said earlier, lets not pretend that we are going to play with out and out wingers like Man Utd do. Why do we need natural widemen? I accept that width is important but Mata and Hazard are more than comfortable drifting into wide positions to stretch the opposition and the full backs will always provide width too. Why cant we win with small technically gifted players? Last season Man City won a league with a starting line up mainly containing Silva, Nasri, Aguero, Tevez and Balotelli. Only Balotelli could be described as a physical presence of those players. Hazard, Mata, Marin, Oscar, Torres. Only Torres could be described as a physical presence of those players. Mikel and Lampard are physically imposing players. Terry and Luiz/Cahill are physically imposing players, as are Ivanovic and Cech. No dimensions? Players like Hazard, Mata and Oscar will give us more dimensions than we have ever had before, genuine creativity and ingenuity. Ye Hulk would be great at the club, but if you were giving me the choice between Oscar and Hulk, I would take Oscar every single day of the week, Hulk is a wonderful player, Oscar is very special.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

--------------Cech---------------

Iva------Terry------Luiz-----Cole

-----------Mikel/Ramires---------

---------Oscar--------Mata--------

Hulk------------------------Hazard

--------------Torres-----------------

Sub options: Hilario, Marin,Kakuta, Romeu, Cahill,De Bruyne,Sturridge, Bertrand, Hutch

Josh,Lukaku = loan

Malouda, Meireles, Ferreira and even Essien and Lampard could all leave

Unless you can convince the other team to not attack, that won't work at all, the back four are too exposed.

And for the record, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that RDM will drop the 4-2-3-1

[fAnta 107]

Not gonna happen mate. Not gonna happen

Probably not but not impossible with the players we have. He is not the same player and i;ve heard MLS rumours. Its mainly because he will have to be benched next year and I don't know how he will react.

Unless you can convince the other team to not attack, that won't work at all, the back four are too exposed.

And for the record, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that RDM will drop the 4-2-3-1

Di Matteo worked with a squad which he had no say in. We don't know what he will do but when he's looking at these players these are always options.Could play double pivot too:

--------------Cech---------------

Iva------Terry------Luiz-----Cole

--------Mikel---Oscar----------

---------------Mata----------------

Hulk------------------------Hazard

--------------Torres-----------------

[Sheva. 5,373]

Our main problem last year is that our strikers scored a combined 11 goals in the league.

And this also goes back to lack of creativity. How many times did our strikers get free 1 v 1 or easy tap-ins like Rooney and RVP score every week?

[FormerRussianSpy 163]

I see him more as less of an attacking midfielder and more as a Lampard-esque CM playmaker with an eye for goal. The youtube videos are relatively misleading as they only 10s clips of him smacking in a goal, but they don't really tell the full story of his ability to read play, stretch the pitch, intercept balls etc.

And for those who are worried about the space in the team for him, I think a massive problem we faced last year was squad depth. If we add squad players who are proven (Oscar is a starter for Brazil) but not guaranteed starters, it adds flexibility and tactical strength to our team.

[Rahul Haque 57]

cech

ivanovic cahill terry cole

mikel lamps

oscar mata hazard

torres

cech

ivanovic luiz terry cole

mikel

oscar mata

ramires torres hazard

cech

new rb cahill terry cole

mikel

oscar lampard

mata

sturridge/hazard torres

[Hutcho 8,443]

Probably not but not impossible with the players we have. He is not the same player and i;ve heard MLS rumours. Its mainly because he will have to be benched next year and I don't know how he will react.

Di Matteo worked with a squad which he had no say in. We don't know what he will do but when he's looking at these players these are always options.

Lampard wont leave. He is too much of a God here.

[fAnta 107]

Lampard wont leave. He is too much of a God here.

Of the old guns Lampard isn't anywhere near as good as he used to be, we have to admit. I just think at this time, when we have better players, he should know his options will be limited. Don't play by name is what I say, but he will stay a season as other players still need to adapt.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Forget about the formations forget about whether we need him or not right now.

Now we have the chance to sign a 20 year old Brazil national team regular starter, future No.10, at the price of merely 20M pounds in current inflated market, we would be just stupid not to, let alone he is versatile enough to play in the double pivot and right midfield/wing.

I would like to make a bet that if he stays at Internacional this year, his price will be sky high in the near future and all the top clubs will love to secure his services.

Just my 2 cents.