Oscar

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

First of all, the problem is that we spent 125M and it isn't a world-class forward line.

Still, here goes...

Chelsea-Torres, Hazard, Oscar, Mata-120-125M

Bayern- Robben, Ribery, Gomez, Mueller-80-85M

City- Silva, Nasri, Milner, Aguero-110M

ManU- Rooney, Nani, Kagawa, Valencia-90M

Juventus-Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio, Pepe, Vucinic, Matri-40-45M (I made it the front 6)

Real Madrid-Ronaldo, Ozil, Di Maria, Benzema-130-135M

They don't even have the chance to play together yet and you already reckon they are not world-class?

and why you put Milner there instead of Balotelli or Dzeko or Tevez?

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Oscar's a risk though, for that price. Okay he might not have the big glamours name that Neymar, Lucas & co have but that will probably work to his advantage. He'll still have to justify that price-tag but the pressure will be less. The only problem I see is that the rotation of Hazard, Mata, Marin & Oscar might have a negative effect instead of the desired one (to keep everyone fresh). All those players, bar Marin, prefer to play central behind the striker but they'll have to rotate among wings.

At least we know that Oscar only has the one position, so it's highly unlikely that RdM will use him out-wide. But that could cause problems for Hazard especially.

Oscar isn't a #10, he might be able to play it, but I don't think his future is there. Even for Brazil he wore the #10 jersey but played nothing like a #10 but more like a centre-mid, which is where his future is so he wont be rotating with Mata & Hazard. And, Marin's best position is LW not in the hole. He also can play in the hole but it's not his best position either.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Oscar isn't a #10, he might be able to play it, but I don't think his future is there. Even for Brazil he wore the #10 jersey but played nothing like a #10 but more like a centre-mid, which is where his future is so he wont be rotating with Mata & Hazard. And, Marin's best position is LW not in the hole. He also can play in the hole but it's not his best position either.

Ah okay. Thanks for clarifying

[bababoom 4,478]

It's highly possible we could change him into a deep lying play maker, as i stated earlier lucas used to be a CAM, but now he's a DM. Anderson used to be a CAM, RW but now he's a CM.

I don't want to jump to conclusion because we haven't even signed him yet, but it's a possibility.

[Kojo 4,676]

Spurs are going uphill somehow...

[BlueSanti 290]

First of all, the problem is that we spent 125M and it isn't a world-class forward line.

Still, here goes...

Chelsea-Torres, Hazard, Oscar, Mata-120-125M

Bayern- Robben, Ribery, Gomez, Mueller-80-85M

City- Silva, Nasri, Milner, Aguero-110M

ManU- Rooney, Nani, Kagawa, Valencia-90M

Juventus-Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio, Pepe, Vucinic, Matri-40-45M (I made it the front 6)

Real Madrid-Ronaldo, Ozil, Di Maria, Benzema-130-135M

Only Real Madrid have a truly world-class forward line and only Bayern can competet with us. Gomez is just a proper forward, nothing extraordinary. Nasri is wanker that is useless when things are not going in good way, Milner is just a bullshit to be mentioned in world-class attack, not to mentioning that he wont ever play with Nasri together in longer time periods. Nani is overvalued and Kagawa hasn't yet proven anything in PL. Juventus player aren't really world-class, apart from Pirlo and Marchisio, they just really fit together.

And us? Well Torres is huge doubt I agree in that and we all know he has been huge flop, but that can and we should belive turn out. Mata allready proven he is extraordinary player, well he is beast, maybe best PL player next year. Hazard? OK he is unproven bud he was really asthonishing in Ligue 1 and is highly rated in the football world. Oscar unproven in Englang, though small players like Mata, Zola and Ramires were unproven and yet they are (were) world-class.

I would just be gratefull if you gave us some time. Youngest most competitive attack in the world that would be and yet you dare to say they do not and won't achieve world-class level.

Not to mention that Oscar's positioning in that attack of yours is just riddiculous.

[Sheva. 5,373]

First of all, the problem is that we spent 125M and it isn't a world-class forward line.

Still, here goes...

Chelsea-Torres, Hazard, Oscar, Mata-120-125M

Bayern- Robben, Ribery, Gomez, Mueller-80-85M

City- Silva, Nasri, Milner, Aguero-110M

ManU- Rooney, Nani, Kagawa, Valencia-90M

Juventus-Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio, Pepe, Vucinic, Matri-40-45M (I made it the front 6)

Real Madrid-Ronaldo, Ozil, Di Maria, Benzema-130-135M

For city, add Tevez, Dzeko and Balotelli. And you think Juve's front 6 is world class?!

And for us, we have 3 very young and talented players in there, players that will only keep improving.

[Shane 2,275]

First of all, the problem is that we spent 125M and it isn't a world-class forward line.

Still, here goes...

Chelsea-Torres, Hazard, Oscar, Mata-120-125M

Bayern- Robben, Ribery, Gomez, Mueller-80-85M

City- Silva, Nasri, Milner, Aguero-110M

ManU- Rooney, Nani, Kagawa, Valencia-90M

Juventus-Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio, Pepe, Vucinic, Matri-40-45M (I made it the front 6)

Real Madrid-Ronaldo, Ozil, Di Maria, Benzema-130-135M

Milner never plays on the wing for city. Also, 3 of the 4 you stated for us are under the age of 22, a huge plus.

[Henrique 9,133]

Spurs are going uphill somehow...

Who the fuck is Kojo?

[Spike 12,049]

Who the fuck is Kojo?

Sloth.

[bababoom 4,478]

Who the fuck is Kojo?

Look under his avatar.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Only Real Madrid have a truly world-class forward line and only Bayern can competet with us. Gomez is just a proper forward, nothing extraordinary. Nasri is wanker that is useless when things are not going in good way, Milner is just a bullshit to be mentioned in world-class attack, not to mentioning that he wont ever play with Nasri together in longer time periods. Nani is overvalued and Kagawa hasn't yet proven anything in PL. Juventus player aren't really world-class, apart from Pirlo and Marchisio, they just really fit together.

And us? Well Torres is huge doubt I agree in that and we all know he has been huge flop, but that can and we should belive turn out. Mata allready proven he is extraordinary player, well he is beast, maybe best PL player next year. Hazard? OK he is unproven bud he was really asthonishing in Ligue 1 and is highly rated in the football world. Oscar unproven in Englang, though small players like Mata, Zola and Ramires were unproven and yet they are (were) world-class.

I would just be gratefull if you gave us some time. Youngest most competitive attack in the world that would be and yet you dare to say they do not and won't achieve world-class level.

Jesus...where did I ever say that "they won't be world- class in the future"? I said they aren't right now and nobody can seriously argue that. In the future, they could all develop splendidly . The problem is, the less proven players are, the more likely they are to flop. You talk about Kagawa as not proven in the PL. It's true, but of the 4 Chelsea players, how many had good seasons in the PL last year? One. And what does "most competitive attack" mean? You think Chelsea have the best attack? I don't get this obsession with youth. Youth, in itself, is not a virtue. Clubs don't win because they're young. Players that are young don't necessarily become great. In fact, the vast majority of them won't. People have this absurd notion that if you buy all young players, they will all become amazing.

I'm not worried about Oscar's size. I don't think players need to be big to succeed. I think he's a fine prospect and could very well have a great career (and I certainly hope he does). It's just that we are constantly overpaying for players. There are lots of promising young players. But you know what? Other teams buy these types of players for much much less. Seriously, go and look at any South American player and how much they were bought for to come to Europe, very few of them will be over 6-7M Euros. Hell, even players from other European leagues are cheaper. Liverpool are going after Borini who is a striker in Itali for around 8M pounds. City bought Balotelli, who was a regular striker for the top team in Italy at 19, for 22M Euros. Oscar is very different than Hazard. Hazard was the French player of the year in back to back years. The French League is not the greatest, but it's competitive and winning player of the year at 20 and 21 is incredibly impressive. You have to pay big for someone like Hazard because he is one of the brightest stars in world football.

(Also, for those of you who want to replace Milner with Balotelli, the total for Man City goes gets cheaper and gets much more talented.)

[Henrique 9,133]

Oscar is a number 10. Period.

Its funny how suddenly we have many experts in Oscar and brazilian football.

[Sheva. 5,373]

(Also, for those of you who want to replace Milner with Balotelli, the total for Man City goes gets cheaper and gets much more talented.)

Not if you also add Dzeko (27m) and Tevez (not sure the exact amount, but close to 30m i think)

There are lots of promising young players. But you know what? Other teams buy these types of players for much much less.

Nothing new, as soon as Chelsea get involved the transfer fee is always bumped up.

[Spike 12,049]

Make it happen.

[mnmontero 78]

Not if you also add Dzeko (27m) and Tevez (not sure the exact amount, but close to 30m i think)

Nothing new, as soon as Chelsea get involved the transfer fee is always bumped up.

Oh and what about 35m Robinho that was a flop? oh yeah let's not forget about that... oh and 14m on Roque Santa Cruz? Sure they know what to buy... just this 2 makes a total of 49m which is 1m less from what we spent in Torres and well would you look at that he didn't make us won the UCL by himself but he helped get there... I have seen the Torres saga like a lucky charm, a lucky 50m charm...

On topic: Oscar seems like a good buy we will have good rotations this season

[themightyblue 443]

Modric isnt exactly good tackler or marker, yet he play double pivot in Tottenham. Oscar would be deep playmaker along Mikel. I guess he would be lined just a bit more forward than Mikel. I dont see him as regista, but some videos show he does lot of work in central midfield. But dont expect some heavy tackling from this guy. He is something between Mata and Lucas from

Lpool type of player.

Modric is actually a good tackler, very underrated side of his game probably because he is short. Whenever Oscar has played for Brazil its either been as a number 10 close to the striker (where people say he is best), a wide forward or as the most advanced midfielder in a 433. Dropping deep doesn't exactly mean he can play as a CM, its exactly what Rooney does for United. Drops deep and spreads the player. I would reckon he's coming here to play in a band of 3, best for him and the club

[Cosmin 2,484]

Sorry to interrupt your endless discussion about how Oscar is or is not a #10, but I'd like to know if there's any RELIABLE source saying that we signed him. Thank you!