different level 1,056 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I don't think I've insulted anyone, but if I did, then I apologize. This discussion is over as far as I'm concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I don't think I've insulted anyone, but if I did, then I apologize. This discussion is over as far as I'm concerned It was a joke but you did call him a moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Sturridge has certainly made star status now ,,, he withdraws from the England squad with a "thigh strain" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 He was our top scorer in the League in the season he played regularly and had the most goals from open play - playing out of position as a 22 year old. Please find me a 22 year old striker in an Elite Club(Real; Barca; United; Juve; Milan; Inter; Bayern; PSG) who is the top scorer in the League for them. Go back to supporting the biggest flop in English football who has held the club back for 2 and half years and made us loan/sell young talents like Sturridge and Lukaku who could be leading our attack for ther next decade. A flop who can't even score double digits in the League despite having some of the best assist makers in Europe Behind him. You seem to be the one that keeps mentioning Liverpool FC, I'm talking about a player who was not given a fare chance at CFC and was booed by idiots like you who want to punch Chelsea FC players in the face while defending the imposter. Lampard was top scorer in the league for us that season... People like myself who don't particularly think Sturridge is that good don't go around supporting Torres saying hes amazing etc etc, we just don't think Sturridge in particular is the player we need to lead our attack. I'm not saying Torres is but still. It's not a matter of opinion, Sturridge has been one of the best strikers in the EPL for 2013, this cannot be debated - it's a matter of opinion whether he would be able to replicate this at CFC but that can also be said for any other striker whether it's Rooney/Falcao/Cavani/Zlatan/Eto'o etc What has Sturridge done that Rooney, Falcao, Cavani, Zlatan or Eto'o have?Sure he won the Champions League here (not featuring much after the group stages and that Napoli game) and the FA cup but players like Rooney, Falcao, Cavani, Eto'o and Zlatan have won a shitload of titles domestically and in Europe. Players like Rooney, Falcao, Cavani, Eto'o and Zlatan have also scored a shit load of goals where ever they have gone, they have established themselves where as Danny is still in the process of doing that.There is more chance of a well known goal scorer like Zlatan, Rooney, Falcao, Cavani coming to Chelsea leading the line scoring 20-30 goals as opposed to a 22 year old English man who had a good half a season loan spell at Bolton, a decent half a season at Chelsea and a good 15 games at Liverpool. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Lampard was top scorer in the league for us that season... People like myself who don't particularly think Sturridge is that good don't go around supporting Torres saying hes amazing etc etc, we just don't think Sturridge in particular is the player we need to lead our attack. I'm not saying Torres is but still. What has Sturridge done that Rooney, Falcao, Cavani, Zlatan or Eto'o have?Sure he won the Champions League here (not featuring much after the group stages and that Napoli game) and the FA cup but players like Rooney, Falcao, Cavani, Eto'o and Zlatan have won a shitload of titles domestically and in Europe. Players like Rooney, Falcao, Cavani, Eto'o and Zlatan have also scored a shit load of goals where ever they have gone, they have established themselves where as Danny is still in the process of doing that.There is more chance of a well known goal scorer like Zlatan, Rooney, Falcao, Cavani coming to Chelsea leading the line scoring 20-30 goals as opposed to a 22 year old English man who had a good half a season loan spell at Bolton, a decent half a season at Chelsea and a good 15 games at Liverpool. 1) Lampard and Sturridge had 11 goals each (http://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter/eng-premier-league-2011-2012/)2) Until we have a striker that scores regularly we cannot be picky, Torres is awful and Ba isn't much better; who knows how Eto'o would do. Beggars can't be choosers as they say3) Do tell me what Falcao and Cavani were doing at Sturridge's age?- Falcao had just arrived in Europe from River Plate- Cavani was playing for Palermo(which is about Boltons level in Italy)What had Torres won at club level before joining us - I'd tell you but you'd probably laugh, so counting trophies for young strikers is a pretty moot point if they are playing at smaller club. Welbeck's club wins lots of trophies does that make him a better striker than Sturridge - hell no. 4) Nothing is certain, as much as we can hope that a big striker comes and scores 20-30 goals there is as much guarantee for a striker like Lukaku/Sturridge doing the same. The difference is that when you sign a high profile striker you play him till he find form whether it's Torres/Berbatov/Andy Carroll when you spend a lot of money it guarantees the player more chances - than it's a matter of the striker in question finding form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 That's quite harsh. Rarely seen Torres not showing a good attitude. Despite all the stick he's getting from home and away fans he's been a tremendous professional. What you mean the Torres that walked down the tunnel after being subbed off? The Torres that still had a face like a slapped ass when we scored the goals when we beat Southampton 5-1? The same Torres that sulked to the media a day after we won the CL? The same Torres that came out and said he didn't care about results? The same Torres who often sulks and hides when he doesn't get a pass or slips over?Torres having a good attitude is the biggest myth around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I did say rarely . If it was Sturridge who was facing such a crisis we would have seen a completely different person. But that will remain a conspiracy until it actually happens so I won't dwell on it. As far as I'm concerned he's a tremendous professional despite the odd few incidents . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrayzayBarnet 126 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 1) Lampard and Sturridge had 11 goals each (http://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter/eng-premier-league-2011-2012/)2) Until we have a striker that scores regularly we cannot be picky, Torres is awful and Ba isn't much better; who knows how Eto'o would do. Beggars can't be choosers as they say3) Do tell me what Falcao and Cavani were doing at Sturridge's age?- Falcao had just arrived in Europe from River Plate- Cavani was playing for Palermo(which is about Boltons level in Italy)What had Torres won at club level before joining us - I'd tell you but you'd probably laugh, so counting trophies for young strikers is a pretty moot point if they are playing at smaller club. Welbeck's club wins lots of trophies does that make him a better striker than Sturridge - hell no. 4) Nothing is certain, as much as we can hope that a big striker comes and scores 20-30 goals there is as much guarantee for a striker like Lukaku/Sturridge doing the same. The difference is that when you sign a high profile striker you play him till he find form whether it's Torres/Berbatov/Andy Carroll when you spend a lot of money it guarantees the player more chances - than it's a matter of the striker in question finding form. I'd say Demba is 10 times the player Torres is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'd say Demba is 9.71 times the player Torres isFixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'd say Demba is 10 times the player Torres isOFF-TOPIC: I'm sorry, but this kind of statement is getting old and is just wrong. The current Demba-Ba is nothing like that...Even last season, Torres' performance at the start of the 2012 season was better than Ba's performance at the end of it..he even finished it better than he did, even if Rafa did give Torres more game time. And as far as this season goes, I would start Torres over Ba easily. Mourniho would also do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrayzayBarnet 126 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 OFF-TOPIC: I'm sorry, but this kind of statement is getting old and is just wrong. The current Demba-Ba is nothing like that...Even last season, Torres' performance at the start of the 2012 season was better than Ba's performance at the end of it..he even finished it better than he did, even if Rafa did give Torres more game time. And as far as this season goes, I would start Torres over Ba easily. Mourniho would also do the same.No I'll tell you what's wrong, When Lindsay Lohan doesn't even put in a performance to match the Championship standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Daniel Sturridge needs to play to become the best striker in the Premiership - it has nothing to do with attitude.He wasn't playing at CFC because a player who sulks and is invisible with a horrible attitude was playing ahead of him. No matter what attitude Daniel had it would not have changed the fact that, we was send out on loan; made to play out on the wing and spend a full year watching Torres from the side lines. He could have had the attitude of Joey Barton it would not have made a difference, he did all he could to get one of our managers to have some faith and play him centrally but they all wasted their precious time in the club trying to excavate the Titanic. His attitude was not questioned at Bolton and it was not questioned at Liverpool, it was only questioned at CFC where he was not playing regularly and had to watch the biggest flop in English football play ahead of him.I tottaly agree with this. It drove me bonkers wathing Torres being played ahead of Studge with the attitude he first brought with him to Chels. I see what you was getting at now. Make no mistake thought Sturride had a stinking attitude here when he didn't get his way and it showed by the way he played. That is why Torres was being played ahead of him becauee of the price tag. If Sturridge had kept his head down and just played wing effectively then maybe he would still be here and playing as the main striker now Jose is in charge! zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! JDY 1,290 Posted September 16, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted September 16, 2013 inb4praise4goalmadpeopleenterangryatthreadbump didierforever, Sidzeret, Ainsley Harriott and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Another good performance by him wish he was back here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Poor game this time around vs Southampton. Moses also had a few moments but certainly not enough tat this level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Match is over - Fulham players are all exhausted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 29, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted September 29, 2013 Selfish Sturridge scoring one and getting two assists today. The Skipper, Badboy, Rambo and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Even on the BBC page it says about how a year or so ago he'd had a go for himself instead of passing.Which is true.He's learnt and matured reallyHad we kept him he'd ended up spending his life on the bench.Move was best for him and we're no better off for it really.Annoying but thats how it goes.Could've gone the opposite way and he'd been crap for them but nope..hey ho what can we do..sod all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I think he also holds the ball up better now he's at Liverpool, uses his body better with his back to goal. At Chelsea he sometimes shied away from physical battles. He always just needed chances, managerial backing, potential was obvious but some fans weren't willing to give him time, while Torres and his price tag prevented him getting a real chance. Oh well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Selfish Sturridge scoring one and getting two assists today.Oh come on, you and I both know he didn't play like that at Chelsea. Maybe he really has matured and become more of a team player in less than a year but more likely it's because there isn't any competition for his place at Liverpool like there was at Chelsea. He can now play shit for one game and it won't hurt his chances of starting the next one but at Chelsea he might not have even made the bench if he didn't perform and because of that he probably felt he needed to produce something spectacular all the time and ended up being a selfish cunt, which ironically was the reason he got frozen out of the first team. Sure, the club could have given him a proper chance as the number one striker and even play him when he's shit but that's hardly what a club willing to challenge for multiple trophies should be willing to descend to and who's to say it would have worked out anyway? Maybe Danny would still have been utter shit and the club would have missed out on top4 and therefore Mourinho. I suppose you'd have been fine with that, as long as Daniel Sturridge was given his chance?Just fucking move on, people. zolayes and SinineUltra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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