Phil Driver 503 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Even if Emenalo was at the match, he was busy scouting on Football Manager looking at 17 year old attacking midfielders. Jose on Chelsea TV after the game saying" clubs are obsessed with small no 10's",Emenalo needs to get his finger out and stop playing football manager ,to many no 10s at our club inc the academy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Class act ,was Emenalo at the game? great going forward and very athletic ,Klyne was dreadful on the right side . Yeah agree. Shaw only gets better and better. Another good performance. What makes him such an exciting talent is that he has pace combined with brilliant upper body strength and his reading of the game is excellent.Regarding Cylne, he impressed me. Especially in the second half, was excellent. Second half a little more exposed but certainly was not poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,703 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 We definetly should get him and Clyne. Terry, Ash and Lampard are going to retire soon, we need some quality English players. I really like Ivanovic but he sucks as an RB. He is terrible at attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Dont think Mourinho would sign on for Shaw..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 guess we could throw in bertrand to lower the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Immence. Absolutely. I would love to see Azpi and him on the flanks. Would just bring so much potential. I love Berty, but Shaw is a class above, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Maybe we can swap one of many AM's for him? For example, I don't see a future for Moses in this team (or Marin, but I doubt anyone wants Marin), maybe business involving a good winger such as Moses would interest Southampton as it would improve their team. I don't know Moses' market value and I doubt Shaw will leave for 30m the next two transfer windows, but I do agree he must be valued by Soton when offloading him because of his quality, his age, being home grown, etc... so maybe giving them a player + money (or a couple of players) that summed is more than they would realistically get for him now, might close the deal for us. I really have no idea how much Moses is worth (after what RM paid for Bale I completely lost track of market value), but I'm positive we can involve him or another of our many loaned players inflating a bit Shaw's value without having to disburse a lot of money. Offloading a player for Soton is better than loaning him to rivals (such as Pool) or selling him to a potential opponent in Europe, it's quite clear we have AM's to last 15 generations, so we can turn them into valuable bargaining chip in ways we make money out of them, but having the competitive advantage of selling them for less money than they are worth, making the deal all more attractive to the club negotiating with us while still making money out of players. So for example if Moses is worth 18, in the negotiation we 'price' him 15 or 16 which means the club getting the deal is paying less for that player than they would in an isolated deal, we get profit from the player (supposing Moses didn't cost that much), their team is improved and we have this advantage over the competition.I do feel some of our AMs at this point are at most bargaining chip for us as they don't realistically have space in the team. It seems not even all the 6 that remained with us have, let alone the ones loaned and I believe both Schurrle and Willian are far superior to Moses or in André's case he can become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 We definetly should get him and Clyne. Terry, Ash and Lampard are going to retire soon, we need some quality English players. I really like Ivanovic but he sucks as an RB. He is terrible at attacks. we have Wallace as a future (almost ready now ) R B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Yeah we should definitely get Shaw now so he can join Bertrand in the stands while we play a RB in their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Unbelievable maturity for a young guy and impressive physically too. The comparisons with Rooney are apt because you don't see young guys slide so easily into first-teams and hold their own technically and tactically, because that system Pochettino is running is by no means conventional. He's yet another example of what can be gained from having faith in your youngsters, alongside Ward-Prowse and Clyne. I like the idea of throwing in players like Moses and Bertrand to lower the price too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Unbelievable maturity for a young guy and impressive physically too. The comparisons with Rooney are apt because you don't see young guys slide so easily into first-teams and hold their own technically and tactically, because that system Pochettino is running is by no means conventional. He's yet another example of what can be gained from having faith in your youngsters, alongside Ward-Prowse and Clyne. I like the idea of throwing in players like Moses and Bertrand to lower the price too.I agree with Moses, but i would like to keep Bertrand as he is a pretty reliable squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I agree with Moses, but i would like to keep Bertrand as he is a pretty reliable squad player.The problem is Jose doesn't seem to trust him, so if we've got Ivanovic, Azpi, Shaw and possibly even Kalas then you've probably got enough cover to last you a season.Bertrand probably needs to move on for his own sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,503 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The problem is Jose doesn't seem to trust him, so if we've got Ivanovic, Azpi, Shaw and possibly even Kalas then you've probably got enough cover to last you a season.Bertrand probably needs to move on for his own sake.Agree. Bertrand is under-utilised. Can't quite get my head around Azpilicueta getting a 5-game run at LB. He's been okay in some of those games but surely Cole or Bertrand should be taking that place back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,959 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Have an awful feeling that he'll end up at United if we don't jump soon. He and Barkley both. Not saying I want Barkley, but these are just the type of player they love to buy.Perfect Cole replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Have an awful feeling that he'll end up at United if we don't jump soon. He and Barkley both. Not saying I want Barkley, but these are just the type of player they love to buy.Perfect Cole replacement.I look forward to the day when Manure play with 11 Englishmen ....on their journey from PL to Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 My only concerns are the potential price and his injury problems. Still only 18 years old, does he ever age!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Would be great to have,but probs at premium price as he's English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 30 million is a lot ,but he is 17 and would to be the soloution for 10 years and longer ,we could have three left backs come to the club signed by Emenalo for 15 million each and all are failures during this time, if that is what it takes pay it ,this kid is that good and is no mercenary,not his fault that we failed to get him before he signed a new contract with Southampton. If we make a move in the summer and he turns us down (i doubt he will) good luck to him.I think Jose can take this out of Emenalo's hands and seal the deal ,if Emenalo is not up to it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 He was at the Chelsea game tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Telegraph reporting that Chelsea will make a £20m bid in January and will allow Bertrand to leave.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10514910/Chelsea-expected-to-make-20m-move-for-Southamptons-Luke-Shaw-during-January-transfer-window.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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