DDA 9,938 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Weckerz said: Drop back and create plays? Do you think that's what Conte put him in the false 9 role for? To drop back and create for the non existant forward? Are you saying he should have abandoned his instructed role in that retarded rigid setup, which would have basically been a big fuck you to Conte? Either you're taking the piss or you're fecking clueless m8 To be honest bro, yes we do expect him to act out a big fuck you to Conte when he sets the team out to play in such a negitive way against a City that obviously needs pressing as shown by Liverpool. The very best of the best (players) drag their team out of bad situations. I'm not saying Eden hasn't becasue he we are forever in his debt for the times he has done. Although I really don't think Eden does enough to claim a stake in the top 5 players in the World. Not yet. I think that is mostly because he has been playing in such a defensviely set team and yes if he goes to Madrid or Barca he would definitely produce more but If you watch Messi play the false 9 role, he does drop very deep to start plays off when Barca are playing badly. He even does it when playing well. I personally think Eden should be left on the wing where he is most effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Polo7 said: If Hazard leaves, are you saying its game over for Chelsea? What an appalling excuse for a fan you are. No, but any concerned fan would be worried about the direction in which the club is heading. We've been on the decline since Drogba's playing days have come to a close. Thankfully it hasn't been to the extent of some of the other clubs in the big 4. Unless you're telling me the board planned for the situation we are in right now from the very beginning, there is every reason to be worried  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 No, but any concerned fan would be worried about the direction in which the club is heading. We've been on the decline since Drogba's playing days have come to a close. Thankfully it hasn't been to the extent of some of the other clubs in the big 4. Unless you're telling me the board planned for the situation we are in right now from the very beginning, there is every reason to be worried  The club haven't felt the need for a rebuilding job due to the fact we've won 2 of the last three league titles. I only expect Roman/the board to wake up when shit goes seriously downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 18 hours ago, LukakutoStamford said: Why should any player have to play for a  club with a revolving door of managers?   Going to Real Madrid isn't going to solve that problem. 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, DDA said: To be honest bro, yes we do expect him to act out a big fuck you to Conte when he sets the team out to play in such a negitive way against a City that obviously needs pressing as shown by Liverpool. The very best of the best (players) drag their team out of bad situations. I'm not saying Eden hasn't becasue he we are forever in his debt for the times he has done. Although I really don't think Eden does enough to claim a stake in the top 5 players in the World. Not yet. I think that is mostly because he has been playing in such a defensviely set team and yes if he goes to Madrid or Barca he would definitely produce more but If you watch Messi play the false 9 role, he does drop very deep to start plays off when Barca are playing badly. He even does it when playing well. I personally think Eden should be left on the wing where he is most effective. I agree with everything you just said except you can't compare playing false 9 in a fluent Barca system where Messi has people making runs everywhere compared to us playing Conte's weird shit where everyone is static to the point we're becoming a meme. What's the point of him dropping deep exactly playing like we did against City? Styles and Anthon_nini 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 9 hours ago, DDA said: I agree ^^ The day I see a fan from Belgium direct any kind of negitive criticism towards Eden is the day I become a billionaire owner of Chelsea. i hope you will read this forum for new signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Belgiannutt said: Yeah since i made the comparison between Hazard-Neymar and pointed out that Neymar was extremely wasteful Robguima seems to have gone into overdrive, bashing Hazard every chance he gets. Probably hit a bit of a nerve with that considering Robguima's Brazilian. Oh come on, Hazard is overrated big time. He can't even lace the shoes of Neymar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted March 8, 2018 11 hours ago, DDA said: I agree ^^ The day I see a fan from Belgium direct any kind of negitive criticism towards Eden is the day I become a billionaire owner of Chelsea. Well im not even 1% Belgium and i think most of the criticism he gets is truly ridiculous. Anthon_nini, Amblève., Blue Armour and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Weckerz said: I agree with everything you just said except you can't compare playing false 9 in a fluent Barca system where Messi has people making runs everywhere compared to us playing Conte's weird shit where everyone is static to the point we're becoming a meme. What's the point of him dropping deep exactly playing like we did against City? No you're right you can't really compare the two situations as Barca are a far more fluid team whereas we were set up to stay rigid and firm. I don't know, I guess over the years I have grown accustomed to Edens high standards and take his contribution for granted in many ways. I just want him to fullfill his potential whilst playing for us. A dream at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Tomo said: Well im not even 1% Belgium and i think most of the criticism he gets is truly ridiculous. We all hold Hazard in high regard here and he isn't exactly recieving an insulting level of criticism. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, DDA said: We all hold Hazard in high regard here and he isn't exactly recieving an insulting level of criticism. When his mentality is questioned and claims he doesn't do enough purely because he's "only" scoring in the teens every season (amoungst other things) are ridiculously unfair and untrue. Constructive criticism on occasions is fine, but i have never seen a sheer volume of supporters try and play down a special player of their's the way we do with Hazard, ever! Blue Armour, manpe and Amblève. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, Tomo said: When his mentality is questioned and claims he doesn't do enough purely because he's "only" scoring in the teens every season (amoungst other things) are ridiculously unfair and untrue. Constructive criticism on occasions is fine, but i have never seen a sheer volume of supporters try and play down a special player of their's the way we do with Hazard, ever! My feelings and the feeling I get from some of the fans who are posting in here think that if he is criticised for his mentality (which is totaly fair in my opinion) then that person who is criticising is deemed crazy for thinking such. He is only being criticised for his goal contribution when measured against the very best in the World. His overall contribution as a footballer is second to none at league level. He is yet to truly deliver on the World stage (CL). I am sure there are few who can drag up something to prove me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 hours ago, DDA said: We all hold Hazard in high regard here and he isn't exactly recieving an insulting level of criticism. No just moronic nonsense like 'he could/should do more' with zero context or awareness of what transpired on Sunday. Stupidity runs deep at Chelsea, from the club itself right down to the supporters. LukakutoStamford, Amblève., Anthon_nini and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, Styles said: No just moronic nonsense like 'he could/should do more' with zero context or awareness of what transpired on Sunday. Stupidity runs deep at Chelsea, from the club itself right down to the supporters. Says the guy who thinks the club will crumble when Hazard leaves! Styles, 11Drogba and DDA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, DDA said: My feelings and the feeling I get from some of the fans who are posting in here think that if he is criticised for his mentality (which is totaly fair in my opinion) then that person who is criticising is deemed crazy for thinking such. He is only being criticised for his goal contribution when measured against the very best in the World. His overall contribution as a footballer is second to none at league level. He is yet to truly deliver on the World stage (CL). I am sure there are few who can drag up something to prove me wrong. I don't think a player who has carried us numerous times can have his mentality questioned. As for his goal record, he's the type of player that won't shoot unless the shots on, Luis Figo best tally for a season was 14 and he was never questioned. Anthon_nini, Amblève. and Blue Armour 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Tomo said: I don't think a player who has carried us numerous times can have his mentality questioned. As for his goal record, he's the type of player that won't shoot unless the shots on, Luis Figo best tally for a season was 14 and he was never questioned. Luis Figo won a lot more in football than what Eden has won in his current career. Figo even won the Ballon D'or during a time when football was littered with top teir talents from all over Europe. I think their is a just case when questioning Edens mentality to become the very best and turn up on the biggest stage in European football. What can't be questioned is his commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, DDA said: Luis Figo won a lot more in football than what Eden has won in his current career. Figo even won the Ballon D'or during a time when football was littered with top teir talents from all over Europe. I think their is a just case when questioning Edens mentality to become the very best and turn up on the biggest stage in European football. What can't be questioned is his commitment. But that's the point, in this current climate were goal record seems to be everything, would Figo even be considered for a Balon Dor, let alone win one? At Barca his trophy haul was similar to Eden's here, it was only at Madrid he was in teams that started to make serious waves in CL. communicate, Styles and Amblève. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 10 hours ago, Styles said: No just moronic nonsense like 'he could/should do more' with zero context or awareness of what transpired on Sunday. Stupidity runs deep at Chelsea, from the club itself right down to the supporters. Agree. This place has been taken over by fanboys who lack critical thinking of any kind. and apparently people can’t read anymore either. Not even a fucking direct reply with quotation. BlueLyon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 14 hours ago, Tomo said: But that's the point, in this current climate were goal record seems to be everything, would Figo even be considered for a Balon Dor, let alone win one? At Barca his trophy haul was similar to Eden's here, it was only at Madrid he was in teams that started to make serious waves in CL. I guess you make a good point. I can't even remember what we are debating now, I am that tired from work. 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Could have scored twice today but elected to pass on both occasions. Sigh... kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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