Santiago. 1,500 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Another brilliant point. Just like when the big two Spanish clubs come to visit, teams outside Porto, Sporting CP, Benfica and Braga roll over and accept that they're going to lose 4-0 and don't even bother making a fight of it. With that into account, I say except in extreme cases, the general rule of thumb for any attacking statistic from the Portuguese league is a discount of 30-40% to give us a more realistic amount of rough knowledge from which we deduce our expectations of a player.No team enter's the pitch with the mentality that 'we are going to lose', and don't produce 100 percent in that manner. There is just a difference in quality between the style of football and players . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Take note that he is very good in Europe tooHe is kind of player, suited perfectly for PL. I dont think he would have any problems getting goals and assists in prem. For him, this wont be much challange because of attributes he has dont realy matter where you play.He will be still same strong and fast and he will have still impossible long shots even he comes to prem.yes. fair enough i was merely expressing my concern that people are thinking that great stats in the portuguese league translates to great performances for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 No. This season there was 2 teams that could challenge, and right now I think besides Manchester clubs, only Chelsea can challenger for big trophies next 2 or 3 seasons. It was a improvement, because in last 7 or 8 years it was only 2 teams (Chelsea or Arsenal and then Chelsea or Manchester), and in some seasons it was a one horse race.Liverpool never really challenged for the trophy in past years, even in 2008/2009 season only a fool would believe they could really win it, and after 2004/2005 season Arsenal never challeged for it.I dont know how you came with 7 clubs, because Newcastle, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool just can't callenger for the trophy.Newcastle, Spurs and Liverpool won't challenge for the title but I reckon with a bit more investment Arsenal will next year. We need to get some deals done early though so we can be seen as major challengers rather than fade away like we did this year. City and United will probably be the top two again next season anyway but the league changes every year so you never know really.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Strike 7,527 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 No. This season there was 2 teams that could challenge, and right now I think besides Manchester clubs, only Chelsea can challenger for big trophies next 2 or 3 seasons. It was a improvement, because in last 7 or 8 years it was only 2 teams (Chelsea or Arsenal and then Chelsea or Manchester), and in some seasons it was a one horse race.Liverpool never really challenged for the trophy in past years, even in 2008/2009 season only a fool would believe they could really win it, and after 2004/2005 season Arsenal never challeged for it.I dont know how you came with 7 clubs, because Newcastle, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool just can't callenger for the trophy.make it 5 then. 5 top quality teams though. Arsenal were better than us this season. not by much and they did get lucky on a few occasions but they were better. so u cant say that they wont challenge. they may add 2-3 smart buys like podolski etc and challenge for the league. whereas spurs were challenging for the league and then fell apart later on. they too have a great chance of building on that. And then there is us. newcastle may only be a hope but u never know who may emerge. if they continue in this vein next season (and this is absolutely crucial), they may challenge for the title in 1-2 seasons itself. i agree its unlikely but they did score 65 points this season and proved that it was no flukei agree liverpool are nowhere near though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Srsly why so many Sturridge mention's in a big player's thread.Its like mentioning Kalou in Drogba's thread.Wow, you're fucking annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Some of the shit i am reading on this thread is unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Arsenal were better than us this season. not by much and they did get lucky on a few occasions but they were better. so u cant say they may add 2-3 smart buys like podolski etc and challenge for the league. whereas spurs were challenging for the league and then fell apart later on. they too have a great chance of building on that and then there is usi agree liverpool are nowhere near though Spurs will never win the title with A'rry manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Spurs will never win the title with A'rry manager.hehe that is true but he seemed to be doing okay for two-thirds of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,877 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 hulk is one of the 10 best footballer in europe for me. to chelsea, a dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 No team enter's the pitch with the mentality that 'we are going to lose', and don't produce 100 percent in that manner. There is just a difference in quality between the style of football and players .Stats again:Benfica have lost 7 times in the last 4 seasons, excluding matches with Porto, Sporting CP and Braga.Porto have lost 4 times in the same time period under the same conditions.Sporting CP have lost 13 times " ".Braga have lost 9 times " ".Excluding clashes between the big 4 clubs, that's out of 88 games. Porto could in theory be on an 84 match unbeaten streak against clubs outside the big 4.Anyway, I feel this discussion is going nowhere. Let us just agree to disagree, you are of the opinion if someone can cut the mustard in Portugal they are capable of the same in England or anywhere else; I am more cynical and will always insist on discounting a Portuguese player's numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 So , its official ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Nothing is official. It's just a rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Patriato 1 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 only if david villa was still 28 i would go for him with my eyes closed!!!! i mean hulk is absolutely brilliant but the asking price.........not worth it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morodo 56 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Just Hulk owning benfica fans Hes gonna do dat to united etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 he's just not incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I really hope we sign him just to laugh at the faces of those who doubt his quality when he fires up the PL and becomes one of our key players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I really hope we sign him just to laugh at the faces of those who doubt his quality when he fires up the PL and becomes one of our key players.AMEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 He is regarded as one of the best players in EU. But some are still saying he is bad...Seriously, what the fuck do you want then?!I guess some just dont like him, I respect that, but to say he is shit...NO ONE can be guaranteed to rock here. There is NO ONE we are being linked to who is such quality like Hulk. When I saw this player for past four years (I remember when he was unknown, at time when Lucho and Lisandro still played for Porto) and since then I always wanted him here, because he was realy special. Such stocky body and such pace is quite incredible. Its like miracle in sports. Now, we are on verge to sign him, yet some people piss on him. It should be every chelsea fan happy about signing this player, it is not your money and we will be much better with him...Its incredible some are not happy about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 hulk is one of the 10 best footballer in europe for me. to chelsea, a dream.Top 10 attacking players in Europe1.Messi2.C.Ronaldo3.Xavi4.Ozil5.Iniesta6.Mata7.Silva8.Benzema9.Drogba10.RobbenDont see how you worked that one out! i could go on alot longer naming more players in Europe who are better than Hulk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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