Roman Abramovich Thread

[Magic Lamps 11,635]

I think the situation is a bit more complex. the club aka Chelsea FC plc is owned by Roman's investment holding Fordstam Ltd. Both are Uk assets, so could be seized. But since fordstam is the parent company it would probably be seized first and placed under administration. The club would then be at the mercy of that administrator. They would probably still allow the club to remain in operation and as long as we are financially stable and not acutely in need of financial aid from Roman, we could live on without him. But as Fordstam also carries our refinanced debt the club could be forced to pay that off which would be problematic. The club has existed before and will be there longer than Roman. What bothers me most tho is that the whole situation will probably  drag on forever wihch will leave us in uncertainty for ages, will find it hard to attract a new buyer etc.

[Vesper 28,366]

Boris Johnson admits he misled MPs by claiming Roman Abramovich faces sanctions in humiliating climbdown
PM will correct the record after confusion in Commons

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-roman-abramovich-sanctions-b2020535.html

Boris Johnson has admitted that he “misspoke” after he told MPs that the Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich was “already facing sanctions”.

Downing Street said the prime minister would correct the parliamentary record after he mistakenly included the Chelsea FC owner as one of those hit by the government’s retaliatory measures against Russian interests.

The prime minister said out sanctions against five Russian banks and three wealthy Russian individuals in response to Vladimir Putin’s military incursion into Ukraine, but Mr Abramovich was not on the list.

Challenged by Labour MP Margaret Hodge on why Mr Abramovich and others had not be targeted, Mr Johnson said “Abramovich is already facing sanctions” – sparking claims he had misled the House.

Labour MP Chris Bryant said the prime minister’s claim was “untrue” and challenged him to quickly “correct the record” to clear up any confusion.

Asked about the remarks in the Commons, Mr Johnson’s official spokesman said: “The prime minister misspoke,” before making clear the record would be correct with parliamentary authorities.

Ms Hodge had told MPs that she had received legal advice that there were “serious flaws” in the sanctions legislation which would allow many “close to Putin” to escape financial penalties.

She said most of the people on the so-called “Navalny’s list” – a list of 35 individuals compiled by opposition figurehead Alexei Navalny’s foundation – would not be hit by the UK’s sanctions regime.

Mr Abramovich is one of those on Navalny’s list, but the Chelsea owner is not on the government’s full, official list of Russia-related sanctions.

Prior to No 10’s correction, Mr Bryant raised a point of order in the Commons. “The prime minister said that Roman Abramovich has been sanctioned. As I understand it, that is not true,” he said.

The senior Labour MP, chair of the standards committee, added: “I’m sure the PM was completely inadvertent in giving a false indication. It would be helpful if he could correct the record.”

Replying to Mr Bryant’s request that the record be corrected, Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle said: “If a correction is necessary, I’m sure it will be forthcoming.”

The government’s sanctions were dismissed as “feeble” by MPs within moments of being announced by the prime minister on Tuesday.

Tom Tugendhat, the Tory chair of the Commons foreign affairs committee, said: “These are not the biggest banks. I’d like to see this go much further and much faster.”

As well as hitting major Russian banks and three individuals, the government has also vowed to sanction members of the Russian parliament who voted to recognise the independence of separatist areas of Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Mr Johnson has signalled Russia should be stripped of hosting this year’s Champions League final following the “renewed invasion” of Ukraine.

The PM told MPs there is “no chance” of holding football tournaments in a Russia that “invades sovereign countries”.

[Vesper 28,366]

Navalny 35 (Roman is literally number 1 on the list)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navalny_35

Navalny 35 (also known as the Navalny's List) are a group of Russian human rights abusers, kleptocrats and corruptioners involved in poisoning and imprisonment of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny. Initial list contained 35 individuals.^[1][2]

Background

On February 8, 2021, Vladimir Ashurkov, Executive Director of Navalny's Anti-Corruption Foundation, recommended the European Union to sanction 35 Russian individuals linked to poisoning and imprisonment of Alexei Navalny.^[3]

Earlier, on October 15, 2020, the European Union had imposed sanctions "for the use of chemical weapons for an attempted assassination of Alexei Navalny" on six high-ranking Russian officials and Russian state research institute GosNIIOKhT, which developed chemical weapon agent Novichok. These sanctions include "a travel ban to the EU and asset freezing of individuals and legal entities. In addition, the EU individuals and legal entities are prohibited from providing funds to sanctioned individuals and entities". The UK followed suit on the same day, October 15, 2020.^[4]

On March 2, 2021, the European Union imposed sanctions on Russia's chief law enforcement officers in connection with the poisoning of Alexei Navalny.^[5] Later that day, the United States imposed sanctions on seven Russian individuals and three organizations in relation to Navalny poisoning and imprisonment.^[6]

On March 24, 2021, Canada imposed sanctions on nine Russians on the same grounds.^[7]

On August 20, 2021, the UK imposed sanctions on seven FSB officers whom it considers involved in the poisoning.^[8] The United States imposed sanctions on nine FSB officers and two organizations.^[9] The United States also announced the forthcoming sanctions against Russia for the use of chemical weapons for Navalny poisoning. Sanctions are planned to include additional restrictions on exportation of goods and technologies related to nuclear and missile manufacturing, as well as restrictions on the import of certain types of Russian firearms and ammunition.

On September 22, 2021, the Rules Committee of the United States House of Representatives approved for consideration the US National Defence bill amendment by Representative Tom Malinowski aimed to sanction 35 individials from the Navalny's list. In the bill they called 'Russian kleptocrats and human rights abusers'.^[10][11]

On October 7, 2021 Helsinki Commission Chairman Senator Ben Cardin and Ranking Member Senator Roger Wicker introduced a bill to the Congress proposing to impose sanctions against individials on the Navalny 35 list adding them to Global Magnitsky sanctions.^[1]

Navalny's List

Edited February 22, 2022 by Vesper

[NikkiCFC 7,900]

3 hours ago, Fernando said:

My question about Roman. Isn't he a Israeli now? 

Shouldn't any sanctions against him be override since he is Israeli citizen now? 

He also got Portuguese passport. 

[Seymop 90]

It seems to be getting worse by the minute. The biggest concern is obviously for the people of Ukraine who must be very worried about the fate of their country. But also a worrying time for the short-term future of our club

[Vesper 28,366]

4 hours ago, Fernando said:

My question about Roman. Isn't he a Israeli now? 

Shouldn't any sanctions against him be override since he is Israeli citizen now? 

holding Israeli citizenship is not a global 'get out of jail free' card

as much as some of them may wish it was, lolol

[Fernando 6,422]

Russia sanctions: MPs call for Abramovich to be punished

• https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12548919/could-russia-sanctions-affect-Chelsea-and-arsenal

Oh boy here we go

[OneMoSalah 8,754]

On 22/02/2022 at 20:18, Fernando said:

Russia sanctions: MPs call for Abramovich to be punished

• https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12548919/could-russia-sanctions-affect-Chelsea-and-arsenal

Oh boy here we go

Not sure how anybody could be surprised that this will/could happen.

All because of that fucking idiot Putin too.

The article on the previous page talking about Roman and emissions makes me laugh. How many planes take off in the UK daily? How many ships voyage in and out of the UK per week? How many cars are on the road in the UK daily? Yet they talk about one man and his super yacht/plane causing emissions 🤣 stupid cunts 

[Vesper 28,366]

Chelsea's billionaire owner Roman Abramovich 'has been effectively BARRED from ever living in Britain'... as he is named as one of the 'key enablers' of Vladimir Putin's regime

• He withdrew Tier 1 visa application in 2018 after criticism of Russian oligarchs 
• Sources now reportedly say it is unlikely he will be allowed to live in Britain again
• Officials are reportedly under instructions to make it impossible for Mr Abramovich to base himself in the UK 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10545011/Chelseas-billionaire-owner-Roman-Abramovich-effectively-BARRED-living-Britain.html

Chelsea's Russian owner Roman Abramovich is reported to have been effectively barred from living in Britain ever again. 

The billionaire has not been seen at his Premier League football club's south-west London home, Stamford Bridge, for months. 

He withdrew his application for a British Tier 1 investor visa in 2018, after reported delays in his application following criticism of Russian oligarchs in the wake of the Salisbury poisonings.

According to The Sun, senior security sources now say it is unlikely that the 55-year-old will ever be allowed to live in Britain again.

Immigration officials are reportedly under instructions to make it impossible for Mr Abramovich - who owns a £125million mansion near Kensington Palace - to base himself in the UK. 

His case is said to be being handled by the Home Office's 'Special Cases Unit'. 

It comes after Mr Abramovich was named by MPs on Tuesday as being one of 35 oligarchs identified by  Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny as one of the 'key enablers' of the 'kleptocracy' run by the country's president Vladimir Putin. 

He vehemently denies he is close to the Kremlin or has done anything that would merit sanctions being imposed against him - as Britain looked to impose sanctions on Russia amid rising tensions with Ukraine. 

[Vesper 28,366]

we are going to seized more than likely as now Russia is full on invading Ukraine as I type

the pressure will be too great

[Blues Forever 1,232]

22 minutes ago, Vesper said:

we are going to seized more than likely as now Russia is full on invading Ukraine as I type

the pressure will be too great

Most likely we will be put under administration until a new owner is found.

Edited February 24, 2022 by Blues Forever

[Blue Armour 4,254]

29 minutes ago, Vesper said:

we are going to seized more than likely as now Russia is full on invading Ukraine as I type

the pressure will be too great

Just curious though. How did he & Usmanov avoid sanctions in the first round? Was it because of a technicality? 

Also, does sanctions automatically mean seized assets? 

 

[Vesper 28,366]

18 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Just curious though. How did he & Usmanov avoid sanctions in the first round? Was it because of a technicality? 

Do not know

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Also, does sanctions automatically mean seized assets?

No

[Seymop 90]

Such a sad, sad day. Thoughts must be with the people of Ukraine and the people on all sides who will loose their lives. As other have said before me, it could also have major repercussions for the club that we all love. I guess we can only watch and wait .

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Fernando 6,422]

Oh boy we are going to lose our owner. He was good while it lasted. But everything must eventually come to an end. 

[Mário César 968]

rip Chelsea

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