Politics & Stuff

[zolayes 14,489]

we left a situation that caused the problems that have cost thousands of deaths. For that I think we are culpable

[LDN Blue 7,903]

we left a situation that caused the problems that have cost thousands of deaths. For that I think we are culpable

A common trend of British pursuit of imperialism

[zolayes 14,489]

A common trend of British pursuit of imperialism

but we also did a lot of good ...I know from Africa

must quote Mark Antony ..The evil men do lives after them ...the good is oft interred with their bones...........

[LDN Blue 7,903]

So it turns out Israel only agreed to a ceasefire because America bribed them with more defense aid. Smh..

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/11/21/israel-gaza-ceasefire-comes-with-pledge-from-obama-to-seek-more-defense-aid-for-israel/

[CHOULO19 24,332]

It was not CAUSED by UK, but you guys left the region without a proper agreement and this led to the civil war. It definetly did not help...

At least it is partially resolved for now.

I'm sorry but it WAS caused by the UK. They started the Jewish immigration to the region and helped create the state Israel by funding and arming it. If it weren't for the likes of Belford and Sykes Israel would probably not exist or exist somewhere else.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I can say that i do think we deserve to live in Israel, the sons of israel lived in those lands thousends of years ago,

I know this is a touchy subject so I would completely understand if you don't wish to answer. But why do you believe you have a right to live in Israel? Is it because your ancestors live there thousands of years ago or does it have something to do with religion?

[Spike 12,049]

@CHOULO19,@nadavTKL, my ancestors are from England. I think David Cameron should kick immigrants and foreign expats off their land, out of their homes, so it can be given to me.

If the sons of Israel get their own land, why shouldn't I; a son of England?

Sounds terrible doesn't it?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

my ancestors are from England. I think David Cameron should kick immigrants and foreign expats off their land, out of their homes, so it can be given to me.

If the sons of Israel get their own land, why shouldn't I; a son of England?

Sounds terrible doesn't it?

The thing is, not even the creator;s of Zionism completely bought this excuse either. They wanted a country for their own to escape the oppression they suffered in Europe and the location was not that important to them. In fact, Israel (although I imagine the name would have been different) was nearly created in Honduras or Seychelles before the Allies decided they needed a strong military ally in what is now know as the middle east when oil started being discovered in the region.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Message from Gaza youth

“Fuck Hamas. Fuck Israel. Fuck Fatah. Fuck UN. Fuck UNWRA. Fuck USA! We, the youth in Gaza, are so fed up with Israel, Hamas, the occupation, the violations of human rights and the indifference of the international community!

“We want to scream and break this wall of silence, injustice and indifference like the Israeli F16s breaking the wall of sound; scream with all the power in our souls in order to release this immense frustration that consumes us because of this fucking situation we live in…

“We are sick of being caught in this political struggle; sick of coal-dark nights with airplanes circling above our homes; sick of innocent farmers getting shot in the buffer zone because they are taking care of their lands; sick of bearded guys walking around with their guns abusing their power, beating up or incarcerating young people demonstrating for what they believe in; sick of the wall of shame that separates us from the rest of our country and keeps us imprisoned in a stamp-sized piece of land; sick of being portrayed as terrorists, home-made fanatics with explosives in our pockets and evil in our eyes; sick of the indifference we meet from the international community, the so-called experts in expressing concerns and drafting resolutions but cowards in enforcing anything they agree on; we are sick and tired of living a shitty life, being kept in jail by Israel, beaten up by Hamas and completely ignored by the rest of the world.

“There is a revolution growing inside of us, an immense dissatisfaction and frustration that will destroy us unless we find a way of canalising this energy into something that can challenge the status quo and give us some kind of hope.

“We barely survived the Operation Cast Lead, where Israel very effectively bombed the shit out of us, destroying thousands of homes and even more lives and dreams. During the war we got the unmistakable feeling that Israel wanted to erase us from the face of the Earth. During the last years, Hamas has been doing all they can to control our thoughts, behaviour and aspirations. Here in Gaza we are scared of being incarcerated, interrogated, hit, tortured, bombed, killed. We cannot move as we want, say what we want, do what we want.

“ENOUGH! Enough pain, enough tears, enough suffering, enough control, limitations, unjust justifications, terror, torture, excuses, bombings, sleepless nights, dead civilians, black memories, bleak future, heart-aching present, disturbed politics, fanatic politicians, religious bullshit, enough incarceration! WE SAY STOP! This is not the future we want! We want to be free. We want to be able to live a normal life. We want peace. Is that too much to ask?”

[Rmpr 8,977]

I'm sorry but it WAS caused by the UK. They started the Jewish immigration to the region and helped create the state Israel by funding and arming it. If it weren't for the likes of Belford and Sykes Israel would probably not exist or exist somewhere else.

No it was not caused, they have helped to situation to get very bad. However, if you both had peacefully accepted the terms of UN, none of this would have happened. So UK did not CAUSED it, but they have a big portion of the blame.

The bold words does not help at all. It only change the place of the conflict. In what does it help?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

No it was not caused, they have helped to situation to get very bad. However, if you both had peacefully accepted the terms of UN, none of this would have happened. So UK did not CAUSED it, but they have a big portion of the blame.

Just saying that the conflict would not exists if it weren't for the UK. And the UN is literally the biggest joke in history (and wasn't called UN yet at the time). And I'm sure you would not be so peaceful if the UN suddenly said that your home as well as most of Brasil belong to people who just arrived at the country..

[Rmpr 8,977]

Just saying that the conflict would not exists if it weren't for the UK. And the UN is literally the biggest joke in history (and wasn't called UN yet at the time). And I'm sure you would not be so peaceful if the UN suddenly said that your home as well as most of Brasil belong to people who just arrived at the country..

I agree (and I know it was called League of Nations).

By the way, you get a bonus point for spelling BRASIL.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

By the way, you get a bonus point for spelling BRASIL.

I never understood why people spell it Brazil instead of Brasil.

[Spike 12,049]

I never understood why people spell it Brazil instead of Brasil.

Any opportunity to use the second coolest letter of the Latin alphabet. The first being 'X' of course.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Huge respect to Eden over this: http://sportsillustr....136/index.html

Indeed. Massive respect.

You Serious?!

They Are Just Stupid Players, That even Didn't know all the details of the Conflict, and stuck their noses to things that they even didn't know well.

And it seems that You two, too.