Kevin de Bruyne

[zolayes 14,489]

Never, you suggested this about Lukaku and now KDB? Come on Zolayes far too good for the Championship. He could have been better last night but he made some very good passes, especially that one that put Torres in the clear. Just needs a set of games to give him that spark IMO. I always thought he was a good player though but I did say before the season started that there was a bit of unrealistic expectation set for him. He came on a back of a loan and while he was very good there it is always going to be harder to set your authority on a much better team like us. He will be mainly rotation and back up this season but tbh I would of like to seen him and Willian be a bit more expressive last night. I thought KDB tried to be a bite more expressive than Willian but he seemed to be stopped more in his tracks. I am sure he is going to get better as the season goes on though.

it is important they are starters ,,,may not happen with PL sides...I guess I cant express my opinion without being laughed at now.

[Stats 7,073]

it is important they are starters ,,,may not happen with PL sides...I guess I cant express my opinion without being laughed at now.

If he was to go out on loan he would get into many teams in top leagues so loaning to a Championship team would be no point.

[zolayes 14,489]

ok our opinions are different ...I would have sent Lukaku to a Championship side because we could have got him back after 90 days

pl loan must be a full season

[Barbara 15,149]

No loan. That wasn't the last chance he'll have to prove he fits the team and can start. I'm disappointed because I'm eager to see him playing because I think he has the skills to shine. He'll have other chances and hopefully he'll become fierce competition to André and maybe even Hazard.

As for the Willian comparison, I think Willian has proved what he's capable - because he's older - and everyone who watched Shakhtar in the UCL matches (not only against us) knows he's way better than he's shown for us so far. The guy has spent 45 days without any match under his belt, he's in a new team and he has 0 match fitness, so I guess it makes it obvious that he'll struggle and seeing how he isn't starting matches every week, I think he'll take a while to finally be sharp again and then months to adapt to the league, as every other guy had... But André and Kev will also have to endure the adaptation period, so once Willian is match fit I think he'll offer better competition to the spot.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Because Schürrle has been so brilliant this season, true.

Bit of a void argument in truth.. apart from Oscar, Rami and JT, everyone has had a shocker of a season so far.

[Korea 734]

I don't really understand how he is going to get better when he's not going to get game time....

KDB was with Mourinho way before Oscar, Mata, Willian, Schurrle (?) and they are all ahead of him...

[bouletje 82]

I don't really understand how he is going to get better when he's not going to get game time....

KDB was with Mourinho way before Oscar, Mata, Willian, Schurrle (?) and they are all ahead of him...

Spoken as a chelsea fan, he doesn't seem to be able to perform here well and i doubt a loan will change anything about that. can't really think of a reason why he doesn't seem to fit in, preseason he was the one standing out while many others failed to do that, maybe it's the rather high level of defending in the PL that he can't handle, he was even having trouble to get pass a 3rd division defender, but on the other hand so was Willian so that isn't really a reference. I just can't see what the problem is with Kevin.

Then my opinion as a supporter of the belgian national team, he's one of the best we have in the attacking part, 50% of all qualifying goals went through him, if he's getting out of form that would be a bad thing there, he needs playing time.

My conclusion: we have an overload of AM that can be played around on those three spots, even considering injuries, we can still have 2 of them out and fill those with one spare player on the bench. (and that probably would be kevin as it stands now)

One option would be to loan him out for half a year to a mid table PL team(if we can find one after that awful performance on tuesday) and see what he can bring. Then, next season it can be decided what happens with him because this season he'll barely collect minutes on the pitch and if he does it probably won't be any good.

He's just the kind of player that needs minutes and the coach's trust, the way i've seen him play in the national team is that he gets more confident every minute into the game, passes with a little more risk over time and then after 30 minutes he's starting to give those key passes that lead to goals(has done it in our first PL game the same way). He won't be showing his potential being out of form and when he's being thrown in for that last 10 minutes.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Spoken as a chelsea fan, he doesn't seem to be able to perform here well and i doubt a loan will change anything about that. can't really think of a reason why he doesn't seem to fit in, preseason he was the one standing out while many others failed to do that, maybe it's the rather high level of defending in the PL that he can't handle, he was even having trouble to get pass a 3rd division defender, but on the other hand so was Willian so that isn't really a reference. I just can't see what the problem is with Kevin.

Then my opinion as a supporter of the belgian national team, he's one of the best we have in the attacking part, 50% of all qualifying goals went through him, if he's getting out of form that would be a bad thing there, he needs playing time.

My conclusion: we have an overload of AM that can be played around on those three spots, even considering injuries, we can still have 2 of them out and fill those with one spare player on the bench. (and that probably would be kevin as it stands now)

One option would be to loan him out for half a year to a mid table PL team(if we can find one after that awful performance on tuesday) and see what he can bring. Then, next season it can be decided what happens with him because this season he'll barely collect minutes on the pitch and if he does it probably won't be any good.

He's just the kind of player that needs minutes and the coach's trust, the way i've seen him play in the national team is that he gets more confident every minute into the game, passes with a little more risk over time and then after 30 minutes he's starting to give those key passes that lead to goals(has done it in our first PL game the same way). He won't be showing his potential being out of form and when he's being thrown in for that last 10 minutes.

Everyone needs a run of games to gain form, not just KDB. It's still early in the season, fatigue will kick in at some point, injuries happen, he'll get his chances. He needs to have the mindset to train well and produce when he gets a chance.

[Korea 734]

This was always going to be a problem when all your funds are directed to attacking mids/wingers and you have a manager that play defensively.

[Stingray 9,441]

Level headed interview with the lad in The Independent.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/kevin-de-bruyne-interview-ill-fight-for-chance-at-chelsea-8845258.html

Some quotes:

He began pre-season strongly, picked up an injury, returned to start against Hull City on the first day of the season and then Manchester United at Old Trafford. De Bruyne himself would concede that the Swindon game was his worst yet.

Its maybe been up and down, he says. In the last four years even though I have had to fight for my spot, I managed it at Genk and at Bremen.

At both clubs I fought for it and then I became more important. Here it is more difficult. It is the usual thing when you have big players and a big squad. Whoever is on the bench always says he isnt playing enough. I work hard and try to do my best. And I try to show on the pitch, even when I only get five minutes, that I can do something.

I am a fighter. I learned it at Genk in my first year when we were fighting against going down. Also at Bremen last year it was very difficult. We had to fight more often than not. I will fight again to earn my place.

In Germany, he was in demand. Borussia Dortmund wanted to sign him, and Bayer Leverkusen too. There were some teams interested in buying me but the manager [Mourinho] said he wanted me to stay. If he wants me to stay I cannot say anything. I just have to show everybody here that I can play football and I can help the team.

He points out that he has already played around 150 league games in three European top-flight divisions. It is the kind of top-level experience, I venture, that his English peers struggle to accumulate.

Go for it Kev.

[Gorando 184]

I didnt know he was actually voted best young player in the bundesliga

Im sure Kevin will resurface one day. Gonna be a worldclass player in the future. The first few months at a top team are really about adapting yourself to it... and maybe having a manager playing a different style than he's used to wont help on the short term. But Kevin is so versatile and talented he can become a leading player anywhere on the pitch.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Was just coming here to post that article that Tom posted above. Great, great article. Really must read!

[LukakutoStamford 779]

He's being wasted here and needs at least a loan and possibly a transfer. Ridiculous that he's Belgium's top playmaker for the NT, and he can't make the bench for Chelsea.

The Belgium NT is a far better team talent wise than Chelsea.

It's looking like the Mourinho hire was a mistake.

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

He's being wasted here and needs at least a loan and possibly a transfer. Ridiculous that he's Belgium's top playmaker for the NT, and he can't make the bench for Chelsea.

The Belgium NT is a far better team talent wise than Chelsea.

It's looking like the Mourinho hire was a mistake.

Because he didn't give KBD as much game time, as Belgians want? Ridiculous. It's a Chelsea F.C., not a Belgium N.T.

I would like to see Kevin play more, but it's unfair to say, that Mourinho didn't give him chance to prove himself.

He must do, what Mata did. To be patient, wait for chance and when he get his chance, grab it with both hands.

[lucio 5,418]

He's being wasted here and needs at least a loan and possibly a transfer. Ridiculous that he's Belgium's top playmaker for the NT, and he can't make the bench for Chelsea.

The Belgium NT is a far better team talent wise than Chelsea.

It's looking like the Mourinho hire was a mistake.

would of helped if he impressed vs swindon but he blew it

[Sidzeret 2,257]

For all i know, KDB is getting his shot at the Belgium NT taking a serious blow.

If Jose switches to 4-3-3 with

........................CDM...........

Rami..................................Oscar/KdB will get him some gametime.

Otherwise, he's only gonna be playing second fiddle here.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Because he didn't give KBD as much game time, as Belgians want? Ridiculous. It's a Chelsea F.C., not a Belgium N.T.

I would like to see Kevin play more, but it's unfair to say, that Mourinho didn't give him chance to prove himself.

He must do, what Mata did. To be patient, wait for chance and when he get his chance, grab it with both hands.

It has not to do with how much time I want. The product on the field for Chelsea has been uninspired and poor for the most part.

Since KDB's last start v. Man United

Chelsea has had 6 games

3 PL games

v. Everton (on the bench)

v. Fulham (6 minutes as a sub)

v. Spurs (Not even on bench)

1 Supercup match v. Bayern (Not even on bench)

1 champions league match

v. FC Basel (on the bench)

1 League cup match v. Swindon (77 minutes)

So he's played 83 minutes out of Chelsea's last 540+ and his only significant minutes came against Swindon.

How any one can showcase themselves when they are plaing less than a full game out of 6 is beyond me.

If Mourinho had been honest he should have loaned KDB to a side that would use him. One only has to look at the Lukaku situation to see how player decisions have been badly mishandled this season.

I still can't wrap my head around the William acquisition especially given the desparate need for pivot options.

It's not like the right wing/AM options have been scintilating either during that time, and Chelsea's crossing has been some of the worst I've seen this year in the PL.

I don't care that much who plays but Chelsea is going to be a poison pill for future Belgian players if it continues with this nonsense with De Bruyne and Lukaku.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

lukakutostamford- De Bruyne is Chelsea's #6 attacking midfielder. I agree with you that the buying of Willian makes no sense at all, but as soon as that happened, De Bruyne simply was never going to get much playing time. You are vastly overrating the importance De Bruyne's national team success. He's played about what, 5, 6, 7 meaningful matches with Belgium? His performance at Bremen is what got him on the team, not one national team game every couple of months where he has free reign. Chelsea don't care about the Belgian national team, we have to make decisions that are best for us. That said, I agree with you that De Bruyne should have either been loaned out or given enough time to at least improve his game, but Chelsea just have too much depth.