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It's the same as spending our time writing here.

We can't effect anything the club does, what AVB does and such.

So why do we do it?

Same reason as to why people discuss about finances....

I think the difference is that we can all see what's good or bad with tactics, play etc. It's out there for all to see. We have enough information to actually generate a meaningful discussion. When it comes to the likes of contracts and so on, not all the relevant information is disclosed. All the information we have is based on paper speculation and hearsay.

Talking about tactics and play is something that directly effects the game, where as how much a player earns is virtually meaningless. It's even more so meaningless when you consider most of the conversation is worrying about the state of the clubs finances. The club is unlikely to make financially unsound decisions (you don't make the money Roman has by doing as such) , especially as we approach FFP. So for people to quibble over Cahill's wage is largely pointless as the clubs financier's, the people who have all the information, have deemed it acceptable.

It's not that people begrudge talk about finance, it's the type of talk. Saying a player shouldn't play because he's clearly out of form makes sense as we can see that for ourselves. Saying Gary Cahill shouldn't get 80K a week is pointless since we have no idea about the state of the clubs finances.

And the worst bit about it all is the people slandering Cahill, saying he's not worth his wage, not good enough etc before he's even pulled on a Chelsea shirt. The reason this is the worst part is because if he turns up, plays well and becomes a great player for us, as sure as a hoop's round the same people who rubbished him before he even stepped on the pitch as a Chelsea player will be verbally patting him on the back and proclaiming he's a great player and all the rest of it.

I could be wrong, but I suspect there will be a few people who posted in this thread who will end up eating crow.

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I think the difference is that we can all see what's good or bad with tactics, play etc. It's out there for all to see. We have enough information to actually generate a meaningful discussion. When it comes to the likes of contracts and so on, not all the relevant information is disclosed. All the information we have is based on paper speculation and hearsay.

Talking about tactics and play is something that directly effects the game, where as how much a player earns is virtually meaningless. It's even more so meaningless when you consider most of the conversation is worrying about the state of the clubs finances. The club is unlikely to make financially unsound decisions (you don't make the money Roman has by doing as such) , especially as we approach FFP. So for people to quibble over Cahill's wage is largely pointless as the clubs financier's, the people who have all the information, have deemed it acceptable.

It's not that people begrudge talk about finance, it's the type of talk. Saying a player shouldn't play because he's clearly out of form makes sense as we can see that for ourselves. Saying Gary Cahill shouldn't get 80K a week is pointless since we have no idea about the state of the clubs finances.

And the worst bit about it all is the people slandering Cahill, saying he's not worth his wage, not good enough etc before he's even pulled on a Chelsea shirt. The reason this is the worst part is because if he turns up, plays well and becomes a great player for us, as sure as a hoop's round the same people who rubbished him before he even stepped on the pitch as a Chelsea player will be verbally patting him on the back and proclaiming he's a great player and all the rest of it.

I could be wrong, but I suspect there will be a few people who posted in this thread who will end up eating crow.

Wow that was long! lol

But I will say you have a point as well with the exception of what seems meaningless to you might not be meaninless for another person.

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Ah well it's not too bad, as long as the club can pay it thats the main thing, and i doubt other clubs will say much or bring it up, because you take a look at Cities wages, i'm sure they've got 5 people on over 200 grand a week.

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Wow that was long! lol

But I will say you have a point as well with the exception of what seems meaningless to you might not be meaninless for another person.

Of course. Each to there own and all that. But people seem to get themselves worked up over the topic even though it's something that they're very much in the dark about, which comes across as slightly odd to me. However.

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Of course. Each to there own and all that. But people seem to get themselves worked up over the topic even though it's something that they're very much in the dark about, which comes across as slightly odd to me. However.

I think what made more sense to me about the topic of wages was this, what Kostas posted:

If I had to guess I'd say he managed to get the alleged contract due to his fee being relatively low because Cahill over the past few seasons declined new contracts from Bolton effectively losing potential income. A player would naturally want to make up for that lost income with his new contract.

It's similar to players who run down their contracts getting sign-on fees at their new club and higher wages than they would had they had a transfer fee.

In the end both wages' and transfer fees' effect on the account of the club is very similar due to amortization.

The most striking recent example of that fact is how Anderlecht's Milan Jovanovic was on 120k p/w at Liverpool due to signing for free.

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On 16 January 2012 Cahill signed for Chelsea for what was believed to be in the region of £7 million. He told the club's official website: "Chelsea is a massive club, it is a club that looks to win trophies season in season out and it is a big opportunity for me to be a part of that. Opportunities like this you can't turn down."He thanked his former club and their fans saying "This is the right move for me at the right time and I would like to thank everyone at Bolton because I've had a great four years at the football club. My spell with Wanderers has enabled me to break into the England squad, and I would particularly like to thank the fans for their support along the way. I always appreciated their backing."

He was one of Chelsea's unused substitutes in their 10 victory in the FA Cup against Queens Park Rangers on 28 January 2012. On 5 February, Cahill made his debut for Chelsea in the 33 draw against Manchester United at Stamford Bridge. On 18 March 2012, he scored his first goal in a Chelsea shirt against Leicester City, in the FA Cup, in a 52 win. Cahill scored when he rose above Wes Morgan to head the ball from six yards from a Juan Mata cross, before unveiling the word's "PRAY 4 MUAMBA" on his inner T-shirt, in support of his former Bolton team-mate Fabrice Muamba, who had collapsed in a match the day before. He scored his first league goal for the club in the following game, opening the scoring in a 21 away defeat to Manchester City.

Cahill started Chelsea's Champions League semi-final first leg against Barcelona because of an injury picked up by David Luiz in the 51 victory in the FA Cup semi-final against Tottenham Hotspur. The game finished 10, with Cahill making some crucial tackles in the second half. In the sixth minute of the Champions League semi-final second leg match against Barcelona, Cahill stretched to win the ball and went down with an hamstring injury. Although, he tried to run it off he eventually he had to be replaced by Jose Bosingwa in the thirteenth minute. Chelsea went on to win 32 on aggregate and set up a meeting with Bayern Munich at the Allianz Arena in the 2012 UEFA Champions League Final. This injury sidelined him for three weeks, which meant that on 5 May 2012, he did not play but won his first trophy in the Premier League with Chelsea, the 2012 FA Cup. With the suspension's of both defender's John Terry and Branislav Ivanović, questions aroused whether Cahill, along with David Luiz, would be fit for the UEFA Champions League final, to fill the gap. On 15 May 2012, he completed his first full training session after three weeks. "We've worked really hard, all day, afternoons, and I'm fortunate enough to be back." he said. "Hopefully, I'll be fit, I will be fit, and hopefully I'll be out there if selected". He started the game, and was part of the team on 19 May 2012, that defeated Bayern Munich on penalties in the UEFA Champions League Final, to give Chelsea their first ever UEFA Champions League trophy win. He received praise for his performance especially, as he was still suffering from the injury sustained during the semi-final second leg. During his first half season at Stamford Bridge, Cahill appeared in 19 games, scoring two goals and providing one assist in 1,596 minutes on the pitch.

Cahill made his first appearance of the 2012-13 season at Chelsea's first home game on the 22nd August 2012, a 4-2 victory against Reading. When Chelsea fell behind 2-1, Cahill scored the equaliser in the 68th minute with a long-range effort.

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I actually think he'll do quite well here.

As for wages I don't know what really happened and therefore I will not base my judgement on him for that.

I can't wait to see the iron defense of Ivanovic---Cahill--Terry---Cole get a run.

Good luck Gary and welcome! :cfc:

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