🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Frank Lampard

[Beigl 1,387]

He has to go. This is much worse than the second seasons of Ancelotti or Conte. After 1 1/2 years there isn´t any system or style of play other than spamming crosses into the box. The purple patch from October to December only bought him some time, we have been found out again and now look worse than ever. Sure, the players didn´t exactly cover themselves in glory either, but by watching our games you can immediately see that it is a coaching problem.

Part ways now, because the point of no return has been passed in the last few weeks. I will always respect him as a player, but as a manager he failed. Hopefully Lampard learns from this and who knows, maybe he will get a second chance in a few years.

[Milan 17,956]

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Playing style improvement? Don't get me started on that one...

[Pizy 18,904]

Other than Tuchel, who is even possible? I don't think Allegri is a good choice at all for us. Away from the game for too long now and the combination of new league, language barrier, and us being in crisis is too much. Plus, he's not the manager to bring in for exciting, free flowing football.

Its either Tuchel or experienced interim until we can get our top choice in the summer. No highly rated manager is going to abandon their current club midseason.

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I don't think Allegri is a good choice at all for us. Away from the game for too long now and the combination of new league, language barrier, and us being in crisis is too much. Plus, he's not the manager to bring in for exciting, free flowing football.

Allegri has only been away for around 18 months, not too dissimilar from Pochettino and people wanted Pochettino. It's not like football has drastically changed either. Plus, he has been learning English ever since he left Juventus and there have been reports saying that he wants his next job to be in the Premier League. 

I wouldn't mind Allegri, if only because he is a tactically flexible manager. Otherwise, I have my doubts about his playing style and it suiting this team. But hey, surely he'll make us play something more attractive than spamming crosses into the box, right? 

[killer1257 3,282]

Allegri has only been away for around 18 months, not too dissimilar from Pochettino and people wanted Pochettino. It's not like football has drastically changed either. Plus, he has been learning English ever since he left Juventus and there have been reports saying that he wants his next job to be in the Premier League. 

I wouldn't mind Allegri, if only because he is a tactically flexible manager. Otherwise, I have my doubts about his playing style and it suiting this team. But hey, surely he'll make us play something more attractive than spamming crosses into the box, right? 

By the way, Allegri had a mastermind like Pirlo in his team and he had one of the most underrated players I have seen in Marchisio. If you were not satisfied with Juventus football that Allegri played, I highly doubt our football with three defensive midfielders will get any better.

 

Allegri might try Jorgingo out again in the Pirlo role

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[chelsea_4_eva 1,182]

Probably 2 week break before our next match, if you want to get him out, get him out now.

[Jase 43,479]

51 minutes ago, Jason said:

He's really scraping the barrels for excuses here...

 

Looking back at this, this comment (not that Lampard is challenging the club) brings back memory of when Mourinho told the club that they cannot sack him because he's the best manager after losing to Southampton (IIRC) in 2015/16, only to then get sacked weeks later. It's almost as if Lampard is telling the club "I can turn this around because I've experienced this before as a player".

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

By the way, Allegri had a mastermind like Pirlo in his team and he had one of the most underrated players I have seen in Marchisio. If you were not satisfied with Juventus football that Allegri played, I highly doubt our football with three defensive midfielders will get any better.

Allegri might try Jorgingo out again in the Pirlo role

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Maybe Allegri can adapt his playing style and make it exciting here, I don't know but there's a reason why Juventus did away with him and decided to hire someone like Sarri instead. 

[Azul 1,615]

Where's@Puliiszola ? He called me a plastic fan for saying Lampard out two weeks ago, but he seems to have disappeared. [emoji23][emoji23]

 

 

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Azul said:

Where's[mention=17151]Puliiszola[/mention] ? He called me a plastic fan for saying Lampard out two weeks ago, but he seems to have disappeared.

[Jap Si. 50]

Frank is how you say his goose is in the cooker.

[Jase 43,479]

Where has @Tomo disappeared to? 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

We will concede more goals than in Sarri season, won't we? 

[Blue Armour 4,439]

17 minutes ago, Jason said:

Looking back at this, this comment (not that Lampard is challenging the club) brings back memory of when Mourinho told the club that they cannot sack him because he's the best manager after losing to Southampton (IIRC) in 2015/16, only to then get sacked weeks later. It's almost as if Lampard is telling the club "I can turn this around because I've experienced this before as a player".

Clinging onto hope more like...looks like he already has his eyes on the FA cup and Fulham fixtures to try and get a rebound in form before facing off against Leicester.

Defeat to Leicester will seal it IMO,..unless he suffers another upset before that game (very possible).

[Azul 1,615]

I'm expecting to see " Sad news, but we will be parting ways with Super Frank" on Chelsea's front page tomorrow morning. If I don't see that then they're clueless as well.

We have a FA Cup week coming up which means there's a week break between now and the next Premier League game. If we get a new manager now, then he actually has enough time with the players to get started. I don't want us to be stupid and get a manager in when there's two PL games in a single week.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

Just now, Azul said:

I'm expecting to see " Sad news, but we will be parting ways with Super Frank" on Chelsea's front page tomorrow morning. If I don't see that then they're clueless as well.

We have a FA Cup week coming up which means there's a week break between now and the next Premier League game. If we get a new manager now, then he actually has enough time with the players to get started. I don't want us to be stupid and get a manager in when there's two PL games in a single week.

 

Well, based on what we've seen during the past several years at Chelsea its unlikely you will see that. Only this week have we even seen press stating that his position is under threat.

Regardless, I still think they are close to that point. Loss to Leicester will be the tipping point IMO, unless there is an upset against Fulham before that.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

Also, would be interesting to see if the club engages in any transfer activity during this window. That will be a really telling sign.

[Jase 43,479]

This.

We were atrocious against Arsenal after a free week, decent against Villa after just 1 day of rest and then back to being atrocious against Man City after another free week. And that's just an example from this past week alone. There's more if we look back over the course of Lampard's regime. 

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

I dont want Allegri. Frank has built a good squad and did great with integrating youth like James, Mount, Tammy, CHO, tomori, Gilmour etc.

Not all of those will make the squad but will fetch a pretty penny.

Pick a manager that will suit the squad.

I want the Werner's last coach

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[Pizy 18,904]

One little thing Frank mentioned in his post match interview is something that's 100% true and nobody is really mentioning it in the media. He quickly explained how comfortable all of City's players are at recieveing the ball in tight areas and dealing with the press. It's something you really notice immedietly when watching the likes of City and Liverpool compared to us. It even really stood out in both legs against Sevilla this year.

Just about every player on those sides are excellent technically and have great first touch. There's a smooth, crisp look to their passing. Meanwhile, we have FAR too many players in our team who are just poor technically. Kante, Zouma, Tammy, Werner, Azpi. And then we have others who do have qualities technically but have next to ZERO offensive output like Kova, Jorginho, Mount.

All of these problems are made worse when we have a novice manager who is clearly not able to fix these issues in training. 

We need a manager who is maniacal at working on intricate technical training. You can tell the likes of Pep and Klopp have worked endlessly  with their players to get them so calm and smooth in their play.