xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 1 minute ago, RoyalBlues said: Lol, can't decide who is more stupid, Barca to offer that high on their first attempt or Liverpool who reject it. exactly. but barca will have 222 mil from neymar so... they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I read somewhere coutinho told liverpool he wants to leave... if that's the case he will probably end being sold to barca xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, oldportblue said: I read somewhere coutinho told liverpool he wants to leave... if that's the case he will probably end being sold to barca yeap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Ffs. Drinkwater, Barkly, ox and candreva... Can it get more underwhelming. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 7 hours ago, Special Juan said: Things are getting that bad now names like Wishere, Candreva and Baba Rahman are being mentioned more and more. How about Drinkwater lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,285 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Despiadado.Maleante said: Ffs. Drinkwater, Barkly, ox and candreva... Can it get more underwhelming. Ox would be a great addition to the squad. Candreva doesn't look too bad and Barkley is not bad on his day but Drinkwater ffs. Leif and Despiadado.Maleante 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Despiadado.Maleante said: Ffs. Drinkwater, Barkly, ox and candreva... Can it get more underwhelming. It honestly can't. Although I'd take Ox, i agree, that only Chelsea are allergic to having big names on the bench. But Bayern, City, and Madrid have no problem placing 6 or 7 Starting XI calibure players on the bench. Reddish-Blue, Strike, Despiadado.Maleante and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, DDA said: Ox would be a great addition to the squad. Candreva doesn't look too bad and Barkley is not bad on his day but Drinkwater ffs. Yep agree about Ox. Idk about candreva anymore, he seems to old to play wingback and not better than what we have at RW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 7/28/2017 at 11:56 PM, manpe said: Of course we are not. Whoever claims to believe otherwise is just purposefully being negative in an attempt to cleverly criticize the board. I am willing to bet with anybody who thinks we won't be making any more signings, just need to find an online betting platform and agree the price. @communicate what do you think, if I find a place where we can conveniently bet, would you be willing to throw in a symbolic amount like 10€ or so? The fact that we have just sold Matic for 40 m, I think we will make signing simply because now we have excess cash to spend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,871 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 8 hours ago, mccg said: How about Drinkwater lol Nah mate I was on the lager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Special Juan said: Nah mate I was on the lager. Was it Wolfgang De Beer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 16 hours ago, King11Didier said: That deal would make sense for Chelsea, can't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 This is such a bizarre summer window for this club. Is it an identity crisis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Despiadado.Maleante said: Yep agree about Ox. Idk about candreva anymore, he seems to old to play wingback and not better than what we have at RW. We have too much respect for players in that case. We could have easily kept Matic who has been here for quite some time, won stuff and is proven player. But instead, as soon he wasnt exactly first option and hoped to leave, we sell him wherever he wants to go, even to our rival like United. We did same with Mata. We couldnt keep them even for single season. Then you see Utd holding on Martial, Bayern on Muller,...even though their role decreased in last season. Now it will be very hard to get player like Matic who will be experienced, proven and happy to sit on bench. Now Im not sure if thats just our policy with players or they simply dont want to stay here unless they have good role. But at least on paper they should, we have been more successful than United or City, yet good players always prefer to sit on their bench than ours... With two new fullbacks hopefuly, imagine we could have Cech, Rudiger, Alonso, Moses, Matic, Cesc, Mata, Willian and Bats on bench. Instead we have very thin bench with few game changers... Despiadado.Maleante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 4 hours ago, BlueLyon said: We have too much respect for players in that case. We could have easily kept Matic who has been here for quite some time, won stuff and is proven player. But instead, as soon he wasnt exactly first option and hoped to leave, we sell him wherever he wants to go, even to our rival like United. We did same with Mata. We couldnt keep them even for single season. Then you see Utd holding on Martial, Bayern on Muller,...even though their role decreased in last season. Now it will be very hard to get player like Matic who will be experienced, proven and happy to sit on bench. Now Im not sure if thats just our policy with players or they simply dont want to stay here unless they have good role. But at least on paper they should, we have been more successful than United or City, yet good players always prefer to sit on their bench than ours... With two new fullbacks hopefuly, imagine we could have Cech, Rudiger, Alonso, Moses, Matic, Cesc, Mata, Willian and Bats on bench. Instead we have very thin bench with few game changers... The team recognizes that the player is no longer integral and decides to maximize their value in the market and normally recoups our fee or we make money on a player who would not accept a diminshed role. Muller had a down year but is integral to Bayern. Martial is a young player still proving himself. Matic is a 29 yr old player on high wages who would not be happy getting half the time he is used to. This is a game and a business, we excel at both aspects. Selling Matic for 40m is good business. Cech would never have accepted a diminished role behind Courtois and he deserved our respect and Mata wasn't in the managers plans and we got a huge fee for him. At the moment we are admittedly thin but the window isn't closed and we look to be working on bringing in players. Good players don't prefer to sit on Uniteds bench, they dont have good bench players at all. City has a glut of attackers but Pep has an allure over that position and they usually lose a huge amount of outgoing players. I respect our Board when they see the writing on the wall with a player or the manager lets them know he isn't in their plans they get out and for a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, akgw13 said: The team recognizes that the player is no longer integral and decides to maximize their value in the market and normally recoups our fee or we make money on a player who would not accept a diminshed role. Muller had a down year but is integral to Bayern. Martial is a young player still proving himself. Matic is a 29 yr old player on high wages who would not be happy getting half the time he is used to. This is a game and a business, we excel at both aspects. Selling Matic for 40m is good business. Cech would never have accepted a diminished role behind Courtois and he deserved our respect and Mata wasn't in the managers plans and we got a huge fee for him. At the moment we are admittedly thin but the window isn't closed and we look to be working on bringing in players. Good players don't prefer to sit on Uniteds bench, they dont have good bench players at all. City has a glut of attackers but Pep has an allure over that position and they usually lose a huge amount of outgoing players. I respect our Board when they see the writing on the wall with a player or the manager lets them know he isn't in their plans they get out and for a profit. Yes but at same time our bench looks poor as feck, because we cant get proper replacement in mould of Matic that would "care" for club and accept bench role. Sure now we have 40m in our pocket, but that wont help us with our title defense if we dont spend it properly. If we invest that money in young talent, they will be loaded to vitesse, if we get lets say Drinkwater or someone similar for 40m, hell thats money poorly spent and Matic shouldnt be sold. THE ONLY positive I see in Matic sale is if we spend money on someone quality ala Verratti, Matuidi, Vidal, Tolisso,... (if they were available; but since they are not whats the point in selling Matic if we cant get better player than him then) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: Yes but at same time our bench looks poor as feck, because we cant get proper replacement in mould of Matic that would "care" for club and accept bench role. Sure now we have 40m in our pocket, but that wont help us with our title defense if we dont spend it properly. If we invest that money in young talent, they will be loaded to vitesse, if we get lets say Drinkwater or someone similar for 40m, hell thats money poorly spent and Matic shouldnt be sold. THE ONLY positive I see in Matic sale is if we spend money on someone quality ala Verratti, Matuidi, Vidal, Tolisso,... (if they were available; but since they are not whats the point in selling Matic if we cant get better player than him then) Drinkwater for 40 is bad, drinkwater for 25-30 for me is a good deal. We would pocket that extra money and have a more than serviceable player in drinkwater being our depth option at a bigger club. I agree the money needs to be spent properly and our team is too thin, partly because how the Mourinho years ended our squad was littered with old expensive players and it takes a few years to build the team back up in the new coaches vision. the money from deals like this will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 31/07/2017 at 3:50 AM, BluesMadLad said: Ivanovic, Oscar (he scored one goal in a WC semi-final, didn't he), Mikel (aka The Great), Ake (The new Gullit), Begovic, Chalobah, Traore, Terry, Solanke, Palmer, Zouma, Loftus-Chick and even THAT Brown. They are all gone. Jesus, now we are fucked. We have 12 great players gone, all of them played leading roles in Premier League glory last season. I bet this team will face a tough relegation battle this season and Conte will ask to leave after 3 games into the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Henrique said: Ivanovic, Oscar (he scored one goal in a WC semi-final, didn't he), Mikel (aka The Great), Ake (The new Gullit), Begovic, Chalobah, Traore, Terry, Solanke, Palmer, Zouma, Loftus-Chick and even THAT Brown. They are all gone. Jesus, now we are fucked. We have 12 great players gone, all of them played leading roles in Premier League glory last season. I bet this team will face a tough relegation battle this season and Conte will ask to leave after 3 games into the season. Has nothing to with leading roles.... there's a little thing called squad depth. Can't just have 11 players and that's it, the sarcastic comments don't cover up the fact are squad is massively lacking depth compared to last season when we had no CL football. Duppy Conqueror 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,754 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Thing is not always going to be lucky with injuries either. Guess more chance for other players to step up but still. If goes wrong conte be the one with the blame.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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